Committee Summary for House Committee on Housing (01/21/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
HB60 00:03:47.959 - 9:02:48 AM	Public Hearing	relative to the termination of tenancy at the expiration of the tenancy or lease term.	Lynn, Bob(R)[A]2024
HB351 03:06:10.680 - 12:05:11 PM	Public Hearing	requiring landlords to give tenants of at-will tenancies at least 60-days notice to evict.	Pitaro, Matthew(R)[B+]2022
HB65 03:24:50.840 - 12:23:51 PM	Public Hearing	directing landlords to offer tenants the option of reporting rental payments to consumer reporting agencies.	Selig, Loren(D)[CT]2024
HB309 03:55:51.199 - 12:54:52 PM	Public Hearing	relative to making electronic rent payments optional.	Mooney, Maureen(R)[B+]2024
HB342 04:09:41.960 - 1:08:42 PM	Public Hearing	relative to the approval process for new construction.	Long, Patrick(D)
HB296 04:33:43.680 - 1:32:44 PM	Public Hearing	relative to issuing building permits along private roads.	Ladd, Rick(R)[B+]2024
HB399 05:29:08.120 - 2:28:09 PM	Public Hearing	establishing a commission to study the New Hampshire zoning enabling act.	Alexander, Joe(R)[A]2024
HB399 2025-0023h 05:47:46.878 - 2:46:47 PM	Executive Session	establishing a commission to study the New Hampshire zoning enabling act.	Alexander, Joe(R)[A]2024

HB60: Representative Bob Lynn, Rockingham District 17, Windham, New Hampshire Support00:03:47.959 - 9:02:48 AM; Representative Bob Lynn, the prime sponsor of HB60, testified in support of the bill. He explained that the bill, which has passed the House three times in recent years, aims to clarify that a lease means what it says, particularly in the context of restricted property. He highlighted that under current law, influenced by a 2005 Supreme Court decision (Dieselwitz case), landlords cannot evict tenants solely because a lease term has ended, which he believes contradicts basic contract principles. He argued that this law discourages landlords, especially small ones, from renting to potentially marginalized tenants due to the difficulty in evicting them without cause at the end of a lease. Lynn suggested that the bill would increase housing availability by giving landlords more confidence to rent to a broader range of tenants, knowing they could end the tenancy at the lease's conclusion. He mentioned that last year's version of the bill included a 30-day notice period, which was amended to 60 days in the Senate, and he expressed openness to further amendments, such as extending the bill's applicability from leases of six months to one year, to garner broader support.
HB60: Representative Holland Information Only00:11:25.639 - 9:10:26 AM; Representative Holland asked Representative Lynn if state law requires tenants to notify landlords of non-renewal of a lease, to which Lynn responded that he believed no such law exists, though leases might specify notification periods. Holland then discussed the issue of stability for landlords, suggesting that a one-year record of good tenancy could justify a longer notice period for lease renewals. He questioned whether a clause requiring six months' notice in the second year of a lease would be beneficial for both parties, particularly for marginalized groups Lynn mentioned. Lynn acknowledged the suggestion, noting that last year's bill had a 30-day notice period, later amended to 60 days, and expressed openness to further adjustments, such as extending the lease term applicability to one year.
HB60: Representative Keran Information Only00:15:15.759 - 9:14:16 AM; Representative Keran sought clarification on whether HB60 would allow evictions without cause after a lease expires, even if the tenant had continued residing with the landlord's permission. Lynn confirmed that under the bill, a landlord could evict a tenant with 60 days' notice after the lease term, even if the tenancy had converted to month-to-month. Keran then asked if Lynn would object to an amendment requiring courts to seal eviction records based solely on lease expiration. Lynn expressed reluctance, emphasizing the bill's intent to uphold contract terms and suggesting that both parties should be bound by the lease agreement.
HB60: Representative Axman Information Only00:18:29.600 - 9:17:30 AM; Representative Axman questioned the impact of the current law on small investors' willingness to invest in rental properties in New Hampshire, suggesting that many 'Mom and Pop' landlords are hesitant due to difficulties in terminating tenancies. He asked if Lynn had conducted any research on this, to which Lynn replied that he had not done empirical research but acknowledged that most rental properties in the state are owned by small landlords. Lynn agreed that the current law poses challenges for landlords and expressed hope that passing HB60 would help move in the right direction.
HB60: Miner Information Only00:20:39.679 - 9:19:40 AM; Miner inquires about the implications of the bill on month-to-month tenants at the end of a lease term. They ask if a landlord can still evict a tenant without cause after the lease ends and the tenant becomes month-to-month. The response clarifies that under current law, month-to-month tenants cannot be evicted without cause, but if the bill passes, landlords would need to give a 60-day notice before evicting such tenants.
HB60: Gibbs Information Only00:22:15.520 - 9:21:16 AM; Gibbs follows up on Miner's question, confirming that if the bill passes, landlords could evict month-to-month tenants with a 60-day notice. Gibbs reflects on personal experience as a former landlord in the 1980s, suggesting that landlords typically have reasons for evicting tenants beyond arbitrary decisions, due to the financial implications of tenant turnover.
HB60: Paige Oppose00:25:25.399 - 9:24:26 AM; Paige expresses concerns about the practical effects of the bill in a market with a 0% vacancy rate, questioning where evicted tenants would go and whether passing the bill would worsen the homelessness crisis. The response argues that even in a no-vacancy scenario, the bill would not necessarily increase homelessness, as it would be a one-in, one-out situation.
HB60: Kathy Stab, Hillsboro 25, Manchester Oppose00:29:03.880 - 9:28:04 AM; Kathy Stab, representing Manchester, opposes the bill, highlighting the high percentage of renters in New Hampshire and the current housing crisis. She discusses the low vacancy rate, the cost burden on many households, and the potential chaos the bill could cause by forcing people into an unaffordable market. Stab argues against removing long-standing tenant protections during a housing and homelessness crisis, emphasizing the human cost of potential displacement and increased homelessness.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:33:17.880 - 9:32:18 AM; The speaker discussed the challenges faced by individuals transitioning out of homelessness when attempting to rent housing. They highlighted that the rental market is heavily skewed towards landlords, making it difficult for homeless individuals or those with eviction records to secure a rental unit. They also mentioned the high costs associated with moving, such as first month's rent, security deposit, and moving costs, which further complicate the situation for those coming out of homelessness.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:34:04.960 - 9:33:05 AM; The speaker continued the discussion on the difficulties faced by homeless individuals in the rental market, emphasizing the high cost of living in New Hampshire, particularly in Manchester. They noted that the average cost of a two-bedroom apartment is $1,800 per month, requiring a monthly income of $5,400 to qualify. They also pointed out the additional challenges faced by individuals with mental health issues or disabilities, and the slow pace of new housing construction due to low vacancy rates.
HB60: Tara Reen, Senator from District 15, representing Bow and Hopkinton Oppose00:36:05.440 - 9:35:06 AM; Senator Tara Reen, a former attorney who represented landlords, opposed the bill. She argued that existing laws already provide ample reasons for evictions, and landlords can easily find a cause to evict tenants. She also noted that there's no legal limit on rent increases, which can be used as a method of eviction. Reen emphasized the housing crisis in New Hampshire and the dire consequences of eviction for low and moderate-income tenants, including potential homelessness and loss of community support networks. She suggested revisiting the topic when the vacancy rate improves to 5%.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:38:41.280 - 9:37:42 AM; The speaker questioned Senator Reen about the use of rent increases as a method to push tenants out and whether term expiration could be considered a good cause for eviction. Senator Reen responded that while term expiration could theoretically eliminate the need for rent increases to evict, landlords often find other ways around the system, such as claiming renovations. She also mentioned that without judicial involvement at lease expiration, it's difficult to monitor the legitimacy of evictions.
HB60: Hope Damon, State Representative from Sullivan County Oppose00:40:08.839 - 9:39:09 AM; Representative Hope Damon, a former landlord, spoke in opposition to the bill. She argued that new laws should address specific problems, and she didn't see what problem this bill aimed to solve, as existing laws already cover all legitimate reasons for terminating a tenancy. Damon questioned the necessity of the proposed statute and expressed concern about its potential to cover not-so-legitimate reasons for eviction. She also noted the low vacancy rate in New Hampshire's rental market and the importance of keeping people in their homes.
HB60: Sarah Holland, Chair of Public Policy for the New Hampshire Association of Realtors Support00:41:46.319 - 9:40:47 AM; Sarah Holland, representing the New Hampshire Association of Realtors, expressed support for the bill. She argued that while the bill wouldn't solve the housing crisis, it would provide more certainty and transparency for both landlords and tenants. Holland emphasized the importance of considering landlords' property rights and life changes that might affect their ability to continue renting. She also mentioned the challenges in converting commercial properties to residential units due to zoning issues, but supported the bill for providing more notice and guardrails in rental agreements.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:44:36.839 - 9:43:37 AM; The speaker sought clarification from Sarah Holland about the scenario of a landlord wanting to stop renting their property. Holland explained that many landlords enter the rental market for a short period and may later decide to stop due to legal implications or personal reasons. She argued that a property owner should not have to go through a legal process to change how they use their property.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:45:56.160 - 9:44:57 AM; The speaker questions the benefit of the bill for tenants, highlighting the concern that tenants might lose housing security at the end of their lease term. The speaker challenges the notion of 'certainty' as presented by the bill's supporters, suggesting that it disadvantages tenants more than landlords.
HB60: Unknown Support00:46:43.319 - 9:45:44 AM; The speaker, who has clients on both sides of the issue, defends the bill by emphasizing property rights. They argue that landlords should have the ability to decide how to dispose of their property, and that tenants should understand and agree to the terms of their lease. The speaker acknowledges the divisiveness of the issue but maintains that the bill supports property owners' rights.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:48:18.280 - 9:47:19 AM; The speaker seeks clarification on how the bill benefits tenants, emphasizing that current laws provide tenants with security that they may lose if the bill passes. The response reiterates that tenants should understand the terms of their lease and not expect to stay beyond its terms unless explicitly agreed upon.
HB60: Representative Grant Information Only00:49:13.240 - 9:48:14 AM; Representative Grant asks about the duration and cost of the eviction process for landlords. The response indicates that evictions can take several months to a year and involve significant costs, including court fees, lost rent, and time.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:49:59.119 - 9:49:00 AM; The speaker provides further details on the costs associated with eviction, mentioning that it ranges from court filing fees to lost rent and time. They suggest that others might be able to provide more insights.
HB60: Victoria Maritz, Manchester Oppose00:51:05.040 - 9:50:06 AM; Victoria Maritz, a resident of Manchester, shares her personal experience with housing insecurity. She discusses the difficulty of finding an apartment, the fear of eviction due to maintenance complaints, and the potential impact of the bill on her ability to stay in New Hampshire. She argues that the bill could force her and others like her to leave the state due to lack of housing options.
HB60: Nick Norman, Housing Providers Support00:53:21.119 - 9:52:22 AM; Nick Norman, representing housing providers, supports the bill by emphasizing the challenges and costs associated with evictions. He argues that the bill would provide landlords with necessary tools to manage problematic tenants without causing a rash of evictions. He also mentions the importance of balancing the rights of landlords and tenants.
HB60: Cara Rodenhiser, Home For All Coalition Oppose00:56:43.359 - 9:55:44 AM; Cara Rodenhiser, Director of the Home For All Coalition, strongly opposes the bill, highlighting its potential to destabilize housing security and increase homelessness. She argues that the bill could enable discriminatory practices and undermine fair housing efforts. Rodenhiser criticizes the bill for not addressing the real needs of landlords and tenants and calls for solutions that strengthen community stability.
HB60: Unknown Information Only00:59:17.440 - 9:58:18 AM; The speaker raises concerns about tenant recourse if evicted without cause due to maintenance complaints under the proposed bill. They discuss the power differential between landlords and tenants, suggesting that fear of eviction could deter tenants from raising legitimate concerns about their living conditions.
HB60: Unknown Information Only01:00:44.799 - 9:59:45 AM; The speaker discusses the potential impact of the bill on lease agreements, suggesting that landlords might prefer month-to-month tenancies over longer leases. This could particularly affect tenants with rental assistance who require 12-month leases, exacerbating the housing crisis.
HB60: David Klein, Seacoast Area Support01:01:52.200 - 10:00:53 AM; David Klein, a landlord from the Seacoast Area, supported HB60 by discussing the complexities and costs associated with evictions. He highlighted a personal case where an eviction took 11 months due to appeals and noted that fees vary based on legal and court costs. Klein emphasized that landlords do not evict arbitrarily due to the high costs and damage to properties during evictions. He mentioned that the bill does not affect existing defenses against eviction and retaliatory actions by landlords, suggesting that the bill addresses specific issues without removing tenant protections.
HB60: Ann Marie Rook Oppose01:04:59.119 - 10:04:00 AM; Ann Marie Rook, a 76-year-old retired nurse, opposed HB60 based on her personal experience of housing instability. After her long-term rental was sold, she faced a doubled rent and had to rely on welfare and community support to find new housing. It took her nearly a year to find an affordable apartment, which was sold on the day she moved in, leaving her future uncertain. She stressed the human impact of housing insecurity, particularly for seniors, and called for more consideration of the human factor in housing legislation.
HB60: Mary Smith, Manchester Support01:10:28.920 - 10:09:29 AM; Mary Smith from Manchester supported HB60, arguing that it should be strengthened to a 30-day eviction notice period. She discussed the issue from a renter's perspective, highlighting the need for landlord rights to protect communities from disruptive tenants. Smith believed that the bill addresses a necessary correction to existing legal practices that are not upheld by the courts, and she felt that the timing was appropriate regardless of the housing crisis.
HB60: Gibbs Support01:13:28.639 - 10:12:29 AM; Gibbs supported HB60, asserting that the bill's focus on landlord-tenant contracts and property rights is separate from the broader housing crisis. He believed that the bill was necessary at any time due to the courts not upholding certain rights that the bill aims to reinforce.
HB60: Rebecca Sky, Executive Director for the New Hampshire State Commission on Aging Oppose01:15:08.480 - 10:14:09 AM; Rebecca Sky, representing the New Hampshire State Commission on Aging, testified against HB60, arguing that the bill, which would allow landlords to evict tenants at the end of a lease with 60 days' notice, is ill-timed given the current housing crisis. She emphasized that such a policy would disproportionately affect vulnerable populations, particularly older adults. Sky highlighted that older adults often face higher poverty rates and declining incomes, making them more susceptible to homelessness. She cited a report from the New Hampshire Fiscal Policy Institute indicating a higher supplemental poverty measure rate for older Granite Staters compared to the general population. Additionally, she referenced a US Census Bureau report on the lack of age-ready housing in New England, and shared an anecdote about an elderly couple forced to move to a Residence Inn due to accessibility issues. Sky concluded by presenting data from a presentation by Dr. Samara Sheckler from Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies, illustrating the housing cost burdens for older adults in New Hampshire.
HB60: Kristen Evans, Director of Policy for AEL New Hampshire Oppose01:19:20.840 - 10:18:21 AM; Kristen Evans, representing AEL New Hampshire, a disability justice organization, testified in strong opposition to HB60. She argued that the bill threatens the housing stability and well-being of individuals with disabilities by eliminating vital tenant protections. Evans pointed out that individuals with disabilities already face significant barriers to accessing safe and affordable housing, and this bill would exacerbate these challenges, increasing the risk of homelessness and housing instability. She emphasized the disproportionate impact on marginalized communities and urged policymakers to prioritize housing stability for all New Hampshire residents.
HB60: Chase Eagleson, Policy and Planning Coordinator for New Hampshire Council on Developmental Disabilities Oppose01:26:35.760 - 10:25:36 AM; Chase Eagleson, representing the New Hampshire Council on Developmental Disabilities, testified against HB60, stating that the bill would create significant hardships for individuals with disabilities. He explained that the type of lease in question, a holdover lease, was unanimously protected by the courts in 2005 and upheld in 2015, and overturning this decision would be detrimental. Eagleson highlighted the difficulty individuals with disabilities face in finding accessible housing, noting that less than 2% of U.S. housing is accessible. He argued that allowing such evictions would enable discrimination against people with disabilities, who already face higher eviction rates. He concluded by stressing the severe impact of displacement on individuals' ability to contribute to the community and answered questions regarding existing legal protections and the potential for increased discriminatory evictions if the bill were to pass.
HB60: Reed Information Only01:30:21.800 - 10:29:22 AM; Reed clarifies the existing ambiguity in the current housing law, suggesting that landlords might be evicting tenants unjustly based on reasons such as their dislike for the tenant's sports team affiliation or more serious issues like discrimination against disability. He questions whether the proposed bill, by allowing no-cause evictions, would further enable landlords to evict tenants based on race, disability, or personal expression. This would exacerbate the potential for discrimination.
HB60: Alyssa Antman, resident of Concord Oppose01:31:59.320 - 10:31:00 AM; Alyssa Antman, a resident of Concord, opposes HB60 due to its potential harm to marginalized communities such as the LGBTQ+ and disabled populations. She shares a personal story of housing insecurity due to her landlords' lack of acceptance of her relationship and identity. Antman argues that the bill would increase housing insecurity for people like her, who face discrimination and stigma. She calls for a vote to find the bill inexpedient to legislate to protect marginalized groups from losing their homes.
HB60: Jennifer Chisum, Executive Director of the New Hampshire Coalition to End Homelessness Oppose01:35:05.440 - 10:34:06 AM; Jennifer Chisum opposes HB60, highlighting its potential to worsen homelessness and housing instability in New Hampshire. She emphasizes the existing just cause statutes and the difficulties families face in finding new housing after eviction. Chisum references the increased number of homeless individuals in 2023 and expresses concern over the bill's impact on aging adults, urging the committee to vote against it.
HB60: Matt Mayber, CEO of the New Hampshire Homebuilders Association Oppose01:38:51.480 - 10:37:52 AM; Matt Mayber opposes HB60 and suggests reducing the notice period from 60 days to 30 days. He argues that housing is a contractual relationship, not a moral obligation, and tenants should be prepared to negotiate at the end of their lease. Mayber shares personal experiences of housing loss and emphasizes the financial burdens on landlords, including increased taxes and costs, which should be shared with tenants. He believes that more constraints on landlords will reduce housing availability.
HB60: Representative Reed Information Only01:43:57.440 - 10:42:58 AM; Representative Reed thanked Mr. Mayberry and expressed agreement on the easing of building restrictions as a solution to the housing crisis. He raised questions about the legality of contracts between landlords and tenants, specifically focusing on the understanding that contracts must operate within the bounds of current law. He queried whether the terms and conditions of a lease already account for legal no-cause evictions at the end of a lease term, suggesting this should be inherent in the negotiations between parties.
HB60: Representative Bolo Information Only01:46:41.199 - 10:45:42 AM; Representative Bolo questioned the impact of making it harder to end tenancies on investor interest in building additional housing units. He was told that such measures completely disincentivize investment because they complicate the business model of providing housing at terms agreeable to all parties. He also mentioned the upcoming ADU (Accessory Dwelling Unit) bill as a potential solution for providing additional housing.
HB60: Representative Reed Information Only01:47:51.199 - 10:46:52 AM; Representative Reed challenged the notion that landlords are not looking for reasons to evict tenants, suggesting that the repeated introduction of this bill indicates otherwise. He questioned whether the speaker was aware that tenants are often advised to continue paying rent during eviction proceedings to maintain a stronger legal position, and the speaker confirmed personal experience with this situation, emphasizing the additional costs and lost rent incurred by landlords.
HB60: Will Arell, Executive Director of Crossroads House Oppose01:49:39.119 - 10:48:40 AM; Will Arell, representing Crossroads House, the second largest homeless shelter in New Hampshire, spoke in opposition to HB60. He detailed the shelter's capacity issues, serving Rockingham and Strafford Counties, and highlighted the increasing number of individuals and families needing shelter due to limited incomes and inability to afford housing. He emphasized the demographics of their clients, often older individuals with health issues, and argued that the bill would negatively impact the housing system and exacerbate the shelter's capacity issues.
HB60: Representative Paige Information Only01:52:30.920 - 10:51:31 AM; Representative Paige acknowledged the costs to landlords in eviction processes but sought to understand the costs associated with serving displaced individuals due to bills like HB60. Will Arell responded by detailing the daily operational costs of the shelter, the disruption to families and communities, and the additional costs of rehousing individuals. He emphasized the need for supportive services to maintain relationships between tenants and landlords, which also comes at a cost, and the disadvantage faced by homeless individuals in negotiating with landlords.
HB60: Gibbs Information Only01:57:08.199 - 10:56:09 AM; Gibbs discussed the challenges faced when negotiating lease terms with landlords on behalf of clients. He indicated a disadvantage in negotiations, often resulting in leases that favor the landlord to build a positive relationship. He mentioned that most leases are one-year leases.
HB60: Miner Information Only01:58:03.000 - 10:57:04 AM; Miner responded to a question about landlords' preferences for lease durations. He stated that their organization avoids month-to-month leases to prevent clients from returning to shelters, preferring one-year leases with ongoing support for tenants. He emphasized the potential trauma of month-to-month leases, especially for families or vulnerable individuals.
HB60: Miner Oppose01:59:37.560 - 10:58:38 AM; Miner continued his testimony, expressing concerns about the implications of allowing lease termination without cause. He highlighted the success rate of stable housing after placement and warned about the potential increase in homelessness. He shared personal stories from the Sea Coast to underline the human aspect of the issue.
HB60: Todd Marsh, President of New Hampshire Local Welfare Association Oppose02:01:18.560 - 11:00:19 AM; Todd Marsh, representing the New Hampshire Local Welfare Association, opposed the bill. He argued that landlord protections already exist and shared scenarios where tenants might face non-renewal of leases for exercising their rights or refusing unwanted advances. He emphasized the power imbalance favoring landlords and the importance of verifiable reasons for eviction, warning against discretionary retribution that could lead to increased homelessness.
HB60: Representative Paige Information Only02:04:26.000 - 11:03:27 AM; Representative Paige asked about the costs associated with the current surge in homelessness and whether passing the bill would lead to additional costs for municipal welfare offices. The response indicated current increased costs and a belief that the bill would lead to further costs.
HB60: Representative Reed Information Only02:05:01.960 - 11:04:02 AM; Representative Reed thanked Todd Marsh for his testimony and asked if there was anything else he wanted to add. Marsh reiterated the many existing reasons for eviction, emphasizing that these reasons are sufficient and should not be replaced with discretionary ones.
HB60: Elliot Barry, New Hampshire Legal Assistance Oppose02:06:01.000 - 11:05:02 AM; Elliot Barry, with extensive experience in evictions, argued against HB60. He highlighted that the current law, in place for 40 years, has not deterred landlords or developers from investing in housing. He referenced specific sections of the eviction law (RSA 540) to emphasize existing protections for landlords, including the provision for evictions based on business or economic reasons without needing specific tenant actions. Barry criticized the bill for potentially undermining tenant protections by allowing evictions without cause after six months, suggesting at least a yearly extension to mitigate impacts on tenants. He also stressed the financial burden of moving on low-income individuals.
HB60: Nick Taylor, Director of Housing Action New Hampshire Oppose02:09:47.800 - 11:08:48 AM; Nick Taylor, representing Housing Action New Hampshire, opposed HB60, noting the organization's diverse membership and their focus on pro-housing policies. He argued that the bill would exacerbate housing instability in an already tight market, making it difficult for evicted individuals to find affordable housing. Taylor pointed out existing legal avenues for eviction and the availability of free mediation and eviction diversion programs, suggesting these are sufficient without the need for further destabilizing measures like those proposed in HB60.
HB60: Jake Barry and Judith Jones, New Futures Oppose02:11:32.400 - 11:10:33 AM; Jake Barry and Judith Jones from New Futures strongly opposed HB60, emphasizing its negative impact on health and well-being across various demographics, including families, individuals in treatment for substance use, and aging adults. Jake discussed the broader implications of eviction, such as loss of access to childcare and health services. Judith focused on the growing issue of homelessness among the elderly, citing statistics from the New Hampshire Coalition to End Homelessness, and the economic consequences of increased instability and health costs for older adults.
HB60: Jessica Marginson Information Only02:14:46.480 - 11:13:47 AM; Jessica Marginson began her testimony but the transcript cuts off before she could complete her statement, so no further details on her position or arguments are available.
HB60: Marson, Manchester Oppose02:14:52.119 - 11:13:53 AM; Marson from Manchester expressed opposition to HB60, emphasizing the need for better information dissemination and understanding of tenant rights. She runs a tenant clinic in Manchester and has assisted tenants in Supreme Court appeals. Marson highlighted the ease of eviction for certain tenant behaviors under current laws and criticized the use of renovation evictions, which she believes are used to bypass tenant rights. She also addressed the significant impact of naturally occurring affordable housing loss due to such evictions and the challenges faced by tenants, especially those with disabilities or on fixed incomes, in finding new housing. Marson stressed the lack of a safety net for vulnerable populations and shared a case of a tenant facing discrimination and eviction, illustrating the difficulties in navigating the legal system.
HB60: Rachel Gagney, Manchester Oppose02:20:56.080 - 11:19:57 AM; Rachel Gagney from Manchester opposed HB60, arguing that its passage would increase homelessness by making evictions easier and more accessible to landlords. She shared her personal experience of being evicted for renovations and the subsequent difficulty in finding new housing, which took her two years. Gagney also mentioned the poor condition of her current apartment and her fear of being evicted for complaining about necessary repairs. She highlighted the particular challenges faced by her family, including her own and her husband's disabilities and their granddaughter's special needs, in securing housing.
HB60: Jack Rudderman, New Hampshire Housing Information Only02:24:44.600 - 11:23:45 AM; Jack Rudderman, Legislative Affairs Advisor at New Hampshire Housing, provided information regarding the state's housing market without taking a stance on the legal aspects of HB60. He discussed a housing needs assessment predicting a significant shortfall in housing units by 2030 and 2040. Rudderman highlighted the decline in building permits over the decades and the current low vacancy rate, indicating an imbalance favoring landlords. He emphasized the dire situation for renters, noting the risk of homelessness upon losing an apartment in the current market.
HB60: Marta Horan, New Hampshire Legal Assistance Oppose02:28:12.000 - 11:27:13 AM; Marta Horan, a housing attorney at New Hampshire Legal Assistance, opposed HB60, explaining its potential impact on the legal process of evictions. She stated that if the bill passes, it would undermine tenants' ability to argue against retaliatory or discriminatory evictions, especially for those outside their lease term. Horan stressed that evictions are already not difficult in New Hampshire and that the bill would further disadvantage tenants. She also discussed the practical implications of an eviction record on a tenant's future housing prospects, noting that it often makes finding new housing nearly impossible in the current market.
HB60: Unknown Speaker Information Only02:32:41.000 - 11:31:42 AM; The speaker discusses the understanding of retaliation in the context of evictions under the proposed law. They mention that if the law passes, proving an eviction as retaliatory would be challenging, especially if the eviction is based on the expiration of a lease. They argue that in cases where a lease has expired, it would be difficult for a tenant to claim retaliation as a defense because the eviction would be justified under contract law.
HB60: Unknown Speaker Information Only02:33:27.840 - 11:32:28 AM; The speaker elaborates on the practical implications of the law in New Hampshire district courts. They suggest that if a tenant is evicted due to lease expiration, there would be little room for a retaliation defense, as the judge would likely view it as a clear contractual reason for eviction. They also discuss the lack of a centralized eviction record, noting that landlords may use private websites or public court records to check a tenant's history.
HB60: Unknown Speaker Information Only02:34:12.960 - 11:33:13 AM; The speaker continues to discuss the judicial process under the proposed law, emphasizing that even if a tenant vacates after receiving an eviction notice, the landlord must still go through the court process to officially evict them. They argue that this law does not save landlords money or simplify the eviction process, as they still need a court judgment to legally remove a tenant.
HB60: Unknown Speaker Information Only02:38:51.399 - 11:37:52 AM; The speaker clarifies the legal process for evictions, stating that the proposed law would add another reason for eviction under RSA 542, but the procedural requirements of RSA 540 would remain unchanged. They suggest that this would be an easier reason for landlords to use on eviction notices.
HB60: Unknown Speaker Information Only02:39:38.040 - 11:38:39 AM; The speaker discusses the commonality of month-to-month tenancies in New Hampshire. They explain that many tenants transition to month-to-month after their initial lease expires, and this could lead to unexpected evictions if landlords decide to use the lease expiration as a reason for eviction years later.
HB60: Unknown Speaker Information Only02:41:46.960 - 11:40:47 AM; The speaker, addressing a question about laws forcing landlords to rent units, states there is no such law. They describe the current eviction process in New Hampshire as straightforward and quick, typically resolving within a few weeks, and refute claims that evictions take excessively long times.
HB60: Unknown Speaker Information Only02:43:05.439 - 11:42:06 AM; The speaker responds to a question about negotiating lease terms, stating they have never seen a lease longer than 12 months in their practice and that most of their clients are on month-to-month or 12-month leases.
HB60: Claudia Stelle, United Church of Christ New Hampshire Conference Oppose02:44:36.399 - 11:43:37 AM; Claudia Stelle, representing the United Church of Christ New Hampshire Conference, speaks against the bill. She emphasizes the importance of secure housing as a basic human need and a right as per the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. She argues that stable housing is crucial for maintaining health, hygiene, and community involvement, and that the bill would harm the New Hampshire economy and increase homelessness, straining local budgets and property taxes.
HB60: Wendy Santiago, Concord, New Hampshire Oppose02:48:53.600 - 11:47:54 AM; Wendy Santiago from Concord, New Hampshire, shares her personal experience of harassment and discrimination by her apartment management since 2021. She discusses how her requests for a first-floor apartment due to her disability were denied, and she was subjected to increased harassment. Santiago argues that the bill infringes on her rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, as secure housing is essential for survival. She also highlights the potential negative impacts on mental health, housing stability, and the foster care system, emphasizing her own situation as a full-time student and parent.
HB60: Reed Information Only02:55:37.600 - 11:54:38 AM; Reed discussed the connection between housing and essential aspects of life such as personal hygiene, job access, healthcare, and mental and physical health. They mentioned the European concept of 'housing first' and the phrase 'housing is health care,' emphasizing the dire consequences of losing housing, including loss of dignity and the ability to function. Reed also shared their personal health struggles, mentioning recent hospital stays due to cancer affecting their immune system.
HB60: Jane Hey, Manchester Oppose02:57:36.160 - 11:56:37 AM; Jane Hey from Manchester, associated with the Manchester Housing Alliance, expressed opposition to the bill, emphasizing the focus should remain on housing rather than legal contract issues. She warned that the bill could worsen evictions and increase homelessness, impacting taxpayers who support local welfare and homeless shelters. Jane highlighted the ongoing housing crisis and questioned the logic of passing a bill that would exacerbate the situation, particularly affecting seniors and the disabled. She stressed the dual nature of housing as both a business and a social responsibility for landlords.
HB60: Chris Freeman, Keene Support03:00:38.040 - 11:59:39 AM; Chris Freeman, representing himself and not his affiliations with Bell Tower Property Management or the Monadnock Resource Alliance, supported the bill. He discussed his business model of co-living, providing affordable housing options in the Connecticut River Valley, including Keene, Lebanon, and Walpole. Freeman emphasized the importance of strong property rights for landlords, arguing that it enables them to take risks with marginal tenants. He suggested that a new category for eviction might not be as concerning as other reasons like non-payment, and highlighted the challenges of managing properties to avoid vacancies.
HB351: Representative Matthew Pataro, Allenstown Support03:06:10.680 - 12:05:11 PM; Representative Matthew Pataro introduced HB351, his first bill as a prime sponsor, aimed at addressing an inequity in tenant at will laws. The bill proposes to change the notice period from 30 days to 60 days for landlords, aligning it with the notice period required from tenants. Pataro mentioned the bill stemmed from a suggestion by an anonymous constituent during his campaign. He noted positive public feedback based on the sign-in sheet, with more support than opposition.
HB351: Nick Norman Oppose03:10:04.520 - 12:09:05 PM; Nick Norman, with 35 years in real estate, opposed HB351, clarifying that current law does not require a 60-day notice from tenants but rather a 30-day notice for both tenants and landlords. He explained that the bill would extend the eviction process, potentially delaying the resolution of problematic tenant situations by an additional 30 days, which could be detrimental to other tenants. Norman emphasized the importance of maintaining the current law's balance and the flexibility provided by lease agreements.
HB351: Gibbs Information Only03:12:57.920 - 12:11:58 PM; Gibbs asked Nick Norman about the number of units he manages and how many times he has had to evict tenants for causing disturbances over the last five years. Norman responded that he manages 48 units and has been managing for 35 years. He has never evicted a tenant for causing disturbances due to the difficulty of proving the case in court, as good tenants are often reluctant to testify against bad tenants out of fear of retaliation.
HB351: Gibbs Information Only03:14:30.520 - 12:13:31 PM; Gibbs followed up by asking Norman how he handles situations with tenants causing disturbances and what difference it would make to extend the notice period from 30 to 60 days. Norman explained that if they do not use the 30-day eviction process, it would not make a difference for them. However, for property owners who do use 30-day evictions, extending it to 60 days would prolong the time good tenants are subjected to disturbances.
HB351: Paige Information Only03:15:15.359 - 12:14:16 PM; Paige questioned the language in the bill that specifies a 7-day notice for certain reasons, such as non-payment of rent, behavioral issues, and structural damage. They were concerned about extending the notice period from 30 to 60 days for other causes of eviction, such as tenants causing disturbances or selling drugs, as it would extend the time good tenants have to endure such issues.
HB351: Sarah Holland, New Hampshire Association of Realtors Oppose03:17:38.319 - 12:16:39 PM; Sarah Holland, chair of public policy for the New Hampshire Association of Realtors, opposed HB351. She argued that a longer notice requirement could increase the chance of tenants not paying rent for the last month or two, as she had witnessed with a client. She noted that Maine and Massachusetts also require a maximum 30-day notice, and that the current law is in line with neighboring states. Holland suggested encouraging tenants to sign leases rather than being month-to-month and emphasized that the notice requirement should equal the length of at-will tenancy. She also stated that the bill would not solve the housing crisis and that more inventory is needed to address supply and demand issues. Holland stressed that their position is narrow, focusing on private property rights and the ability of property owners to regain possession of their property in a timely manner.
HB351: David Klein, Small Landlord on the Coast Oppose03:20:04.439 - 12:19:05 PM; David Klein, a small landlord, opposed HB351, arguing that the bill does not align with the sponsor's stated reason for proposing it. He clarified that tenants are already required to give 30-day notice, the same as landlords, according to RSA 540. Klein explained that the bill would extend the notice period from 30 to 60 days for breaches of lease or refusal to cooperate in bed bug remediation, which could expose good tenants to the bad habits of others. He also mentioned the potential for pipes to freeze and burst if tenants stop paying for utilities, which could force all tenants to move. Klein concluded that the bill would not help good tenants and urged the committee not to pass it.
HB351: Matt Mayberry, CEO of the New Hampshire Home Builder Association Oppose03:22:28.520 - 12:21:29 PM; Matt Mayberry, CEO of the New Hampshire Home Builder Association, opposed HB351 due to its substantial unintended consequences. He suggested that if the committee insists on passing the bill, tenants should also be required to give 60 days' notice, emphasizing fairness.
HB351: Freeman Oppose03:23:14.880 - 12:22:15 PM; Freeman opposed HB351, highlighting the impact of extending the eviction timeline from 30 to 60 days in shared housing environments. He explained that such an extension would force other tenants to endure bad behavior for an additional period. Freeman emphasized the importance of maintaining a constructive and positive living environment in shared spaces and expressed concern about being compelled to tolerate behavior that causes mental anguish within these spaces.
HB65: Seelig Support03:24:50.840 - 12:23:51 PM; Seelig presented HB65, explaining its background and purpose. They shared their conversation with Congressman Maxwell Frost about the challenges of building credit as a tenant and how positive rent payments can be reported to credit bureaus to help tenants improve their credit scores. Seelig reached out to property managers on the SE coast of New Hampshire, learning that some report on-time rent payments, resulting in higher on-time payment rates and fewer rent collection issues. They proposed the bill to require landlords with 15 or more properties to report positive rent payments, though the bill became more complicated than initially intended. Seelig suggested an amendment to simplify the bill and focus on landlords reporting positive rent payments. They also shared information from the Credit Builders Alliance on the benefits of rent reporting for credit building and improving financial stability.
HB65: Miner Information Only03:30:23.080 - 12:29:24 PM; Miner asked Seelig about the cost to landlords without programs like AppFolio for reporting rent payments. Seelig responded that the credit bureaus do not charge a fee for reporting the information, but it would be the landlord's time spent submitting the information. They emphasized that the bill targets professional landlords managing multiple properties.
HB65: Aaron Information Only03:31:56.040 - 12:30:57 PM; Aaron asked Seelig if tenants can currently ask for rent reporting and whether the bill would compel landlords to do so. Seelig explained that tenants are often afraid to ask for anything beyond what's offered in an initial lease, but landlords who have implemented rent reporting have found success. They noted that four out of seven property managers they spoke to were using the program, and one more planned to start.
HB65: Gibbs Information Only03:33:30.199 - 12:32:31 PM; Gibbs asked Seelig if they plan to present an amendment to the committee. Seelig expressed willingness to present an amendment but wanted to find out from the committee what language they would prefer, to avoid overburdening OS with multiple drafts. Gibbs suggested considering an amendment that would turn the bill into a study committee to allow the legislature to study it further.
HB65: Jody NL, representing Keene Support03:35:41.080 - 12:34:42 PM; Jody NL testified in support of HB65, emphasizing the importance of credit reports in determining an individual's likelihood of repaying debts. She shared her personal experience with renting for 17 years and always prioritizing rent payments to ensure housing stability for her family. She argued that just as mortgage payments are reported to credit agencies, rental payments should also be included to provide a more accurate picture of an individual's payment history. This would not only benefit prospective tenants but also ease the burden on landlords and mortgage companies, especially in a landscape moving towards corporate property management.
HB65: Chris Freeman Information Only03:37:59.080 - 12:37:00 PM; Chris Freeman provided insights on the implications of HB65 from a landlord's perspective. He discussed his company's commitment to home ownership and personal finance education for tenants. Freeman expressed concerns about the transparency and accuracy of rent reporting software, which led him to not enable rent reporting in his properties. He mentioned the bill's detailed requirements and the technical challenges his company faces in complying with them, such as distinguishing between rent payments and other fees. He suggested that existing third-party solutions might be more effective and less burdensome than the requirements set out in the bill.
HB65: Matt Maybury, CEO from the Home Builders Oppose03:41:48.159 - 12:40:49 PM; Matt Maybury expressed opposition to HB65, highlighting existing technological solutions that allow tenants to self-report rent payments to credit agencies. He warned about potential unintended consequences, such as gaps in credit reports when moving between properties with different reporting practices. He cited a large housing provider in New Hampshire that is already implementing such services as a value-added for tenants, suggesting that the market is addressing this issue without the need for regulatory intervention.
HB65: Nick Norman Oppose03:43:45.239 - 12:42:46 PM; Nick Norman opposed HB65, focusing on the practical challenges and costs associated with implementing rent reporting. He shared experiences of a large property owner member who found the cost of reporting software prohibitive. Norman pointed out existing services, such as self.inc, which allow tenants to report various payments for free, arguing that mandating landlords to report could unnecessarily burden them. He emphasized the need for discipline in payment practices as a simple and cost-free way for tenants to build credit.
HB65: David Klein Oppose03:47:41.359 - 12:46:42 PM; David Klein opposed HB65, citing concerns about the mechanics and cost calculations mandated by the bill. As a small landlord, he found the requirement to report payments using QuickBooks challenging and time-consuming. He suggested that the bill should be sent to a study committee to explore solutions that would work for landlords, tenants, and credit reporting agencies. Klein emphasized a New Hampshire-specific approach to addressing the issue.
HB65: Representative Alexandra Murray Support03:53:10.800 - 12:52:11 PM; Representative Alexandra Murray supported HB65, sharing her personal experience of struggling to rent without a credit history. She emphasized the importance of providing tools for renters to build credit, especially in a tight housing market. Murray acknowledged the concerns raised by landlords but argued that housing providers, with more resources, should bear the burden of reporting payments. She believed this would ensure effective implementation of the legislation.
HB309: Representative Mooney, representing the town of Merrimack Support03:55:51.199 - 12:54:52 PM; Representative Mooney introduced HB309, which aims to prohibit landlords from mandating electronic payments only, thereby allowing tenants to use various payment methods. He stressed the importance of not complicating landlord-tenant relationships during a housing crisis and highlighted the bill's support for accessibility and flexibility in rental agreements. Mooney urged the committee to recommend the bill for passage.
HB309: Robert Bevel, resident of Marlow, New Hampshire Support03:58:09.120 - 12:57:10 PM; Robert Bevel testified in support of House Bill 309, which aims to make electronic payments optional. He shared a personal story of a senior citizen who was forced to switch to electronic rent payments, which she feared due to her reluctance to conduct banking online. Bevel argued that mandating electronic payments infringes on tenants' freedom to consent to such transactions and could be seen as an abuse of bargaining power. He highlighted the lack of an auditable paper trail with electronic payments compared to checks, and the potential for businesses to withdraw unauthorized amounts, forcing consumers to incur fees for stop payments. He compared New Hampshire's proposed legislation to other states, suggesting a middle ground where landlords must accept at least one other form of payment.
HB309: Nick Norman Information Only04:01:17.600 - 1:00:18 PM; Nick Norman provided information regarding the placement of the bill within the law. He expressed that housing providers do not object to the concept but strongly object to its placement in section 540-A:3, which deals with prohibited practices and carries heavy penalties, including $1,000 per day plus court costs and attorney's fees. Norman argued that these penalties are excessive for landlords who require electronic payments without knowing it's prohibited. He suggested an amendment to carve out this section from the fees and penalties, indicating willingness to draft such an amendment.
HB309: Chris Freeman Oppose04:05:33.159 - 1:04:34 PM; Chris Freeman opposed the bill, arguing that it represents a step backward for landlords. He corrected the notion that electronic transactions lack a paper trail, stating that merchant services provide a detailed record of transactions. Freeman also mentioned that individuals with disabilities or those uncomfortable with technology already have protections under the federal Fair Housing Act, which allows for reasonable accommodation requests. He emphasized the benefits of electronic payments, including automated accounting and timely processing, which could support other proposals like mandatory rent reporting to credit bureaus.
HB342: Patrick Long, representing Hillsborough 26, Manchester Support04:09:41.960 - 1:08:42 PM; Patrick Long introduced HB342, aiming to alter minimum lot size requirements by municipalities to align with existing neighborhood densities. He highlighted issues in Manchester where zoning changes have made it impossible to build on lots of sizes that were once legal. The bill would allow building consistent with the existing neighborhood, helping to address the housing crisis and meeting property owners' expectations. Long was open to amendments regarding the role of the zoning board or planning board in approving such constructions.
HB342: Margaret Burns, New Hampshire Municipal Association Oppose04:19:47.080 - 1:18:48 PM; Margaret Burns opposed the bill, suggesting it could be made a local option to delegate authority from the Zoning Board of Adjustment to the planning board. She expressed concerns about the delegation of variance granting authority and suggested keeping it with the Zoning Board but adding an expedited variance procedure. Burns highlighted potential consequences of the bill, such as creating non-conforming neighborhoods and the need for municipalities to retain control over zoning decisions.
HB342: Drew Klein, President of the Josiah Bartlett Center for Public Policy Support04:23:51.319 - 1:22:52 PM; Drew Klein supported the concept of HB342, emphasizing its potential to address housing issues by allowing development that conforms to existing neighborhood densities. He argued that the bill promotes neighborhood consistency and addresses the rigidity of top-down zoning. Klein discussed the benefits of a bottom-up approach that considers the currently built environment and suggested that the bill could help with housing development while maintaining neighborhood character.
HB342: Sarah Holland, New Hampshire Association of Realtors Support04:29:59.520 - 1:29:00 PM; Sarah Holland supported HB342, emphasizing its potential to help with housing affordability and production. She noted that the current zoning process can be long and costly, leading to exclusions that hinder housing development. Holland argued that the bill would enable property owners to build in line with their neighborhoods, aiding in infill development without the need for new infrastructure. She highlighted the need for more housing in New Hampshire given the high median sale prices.
HB296: Rick Lad, representing Hale's Location, New Hampshire Support04:33:43.680 - 1:32:44 PM; Rick Lad introduced HB296, which aims to streamline the building permit process for constructions off private roads. He referenced Governor Sununu's call to address the housing crisis and noted the difficulties young people face in finding housing in the Upper Valley area. Lad argued that the current process for obtaining permits off private roads is lengthy and costly, often delaying construction. He suggested that if a municipality has a policy for building off private roads, the governing body should be able to issue permits after review and comment by the planning board, not approval, to speed up the process.
HB296: George Hansel, Keane Support04:38:47.000 - 1:37:48 PM; George Hansel, a former planning board member, mayor, and city councilor of Keane, and a small-scale developer, shared his experience with building on private roads. He recounted a recent project where he faced challenges due to the existing RSA requirements for building on a private road, which involved additional approval processes. He noted that the primary concern during these processes was ensuring emergency vehicle access. Hansel discussed the potential increase in private road usage with new housing developments like the Cottage Court ordinance in Keane, which aims to increase housing opportunities. He supported the bill as a means to streamline the process for future developments and encouraged the committee to consider it an opportunity for innovative housing solutions.
HB296: Margaret Burns, New Hampshire Municipal Association Support04:47:26.718 - 1:46:27 PM; Margaret Burns from the New Hampshire Municipal Association expressed support for HB296, viewing it as an alternative method for approving building on private roads. She suggested a policy adopted by the select board as opposed to the current process. Burns also pointed out a potential typo in the bill and recommended that if the bill is amended, a similar amendment should be considered for building on class six roads.
HB296: Paul Alano, Lawyer, Concord Oppose04:49:38.320 - 1:48:39 PM; Paul Alano, a lawyer with extensive experience in real estate, particularly with private roads, expressed opposition to HB296 but supported the concept of addressing the issue. He highlighted the lack of clear criteria for select boards in approving building permits on private roads and suggested simplifying the criteria to focus solely on emergency vehicle access. Alano was concerned about the creation of new policies without clear guidelines and proposed an amendment to streamline the process based on emergency vehicle access alone.
HB296: Alen Reed, Representative, Rockingham 10 (Newmarket and Newfields) Support04:57:04.360 - 1:56:05 PM; Representative Reed emphasized the importance of home ownership over renting in addressing New Hampshire's housing crisis. He argued that while much focus is on rental issues, increasing home ownership rates, particularly through cooperative ownership, could significantly benefit the state. Reed cited the success of a 1988 law that allowed tenants in manufactured housing parks 60 days' notice before a sale to organize and make an offer, leading to numerous resident-owned communities. He proposed extending this 60-day notice requirement to multifamily housing with five or more units, suggesting it could similarly boost home ownership without forcing tenants into co-ops but giving them the option to buy. He addressed concerns about the potential delay in property sales, arguing that the benefits of increased home ownership far outweigh any minor inconvenience to sellers, especially given the high value of multifamily properties. Reed also shared experiences from his district where tenants were unaware of building sales until after the fact, leading to unexpected rent increases, and highlighted that giving tenants notice could lead to better outcomes for both tenants and sellers through competitive offers.
HB296: Chris Freeman Oppose05:09:22.040 - 2:08:23 PM; Chris Freeman expressed reservations about the proposed 60-day notice period for multifamily housing sales, arguing that it could be onerous and potentially problematic, especially given the differences between manufactured homes and multifamily units. He pointed out that manufactured home parks are more conducive to conversion to cooperatives due to individual unit ownership, whereas multifamily units vary in type and suitability for conversion. Freeman raised concerns about the ambiguity in the requirement for 'good faith negotiation' during the notice period, questioning its impact on sales timelines and feasibility, particularly in portfolio sales. He also mentioned potential issues with commercial lending covenants that might not allow for partial releases needed for co-op conversions.
HB296: Christine Cybert, Representative, Hillsborough District 21 (Manchester) Support05:14:42.360 - 2:13:43 PM; Representative Cybert supported the bill, sharing a personal anecdote about a teacher from Auburn, living in Manchester, who faced a sudden rent doubling after a building sale. She highlighted the financial strain such abrupt changes impose on tenants and questioned the legality and morality of such practices. Cybert emphasized the broader issue of people leaving the state due to housing unaffordability, particularly affecting young couples seeking homeownership. She argued that the bill could provide tenants with an opportunity to take control of their housing situation, preventing such predatory practices and contributing to housing stability.
HB296: Nick Norman Oppose05:18:16.360 - 2:17:17 PM; Nick Norman opposed the bill, arguing that the real estate market's complexity, especially with multifamily properties, makes a 60-day notice requirement impractical and potentially harmful to sales. He expressed concerns about the feasibility of tenants organizing to purchase multifamily buildings, especially in cases of portfolio sales. Norman also highlighted the potential negative impact on financially disadvantaged tenants, suggesting that co-op conversions could lead to their displacement if they cannot meet the financial demands. He noted ambiguity in the bill's language about the 60-day notice period and its effect on sales agreements.
HB296: David Klein Oppose05:22:46.480 - 2:21:47 PM; David Klein opposed the bill, citing significant differences between manufactured home owners and multifamily tenants, particularly in financial sophistication and ability to handle property maintenance. He argued that extending the 60-day notice requirement to multifamily buildings could delay sales and deter developers from building new housing due to added complexities. Klein also raised concerns about the bill's impact on mixed-use buildings, which are common in downtown areas and not addressed in the current legislation. He suggested that the delays caused by the notice period could be substantial, potentially lasting up to six months, which could further complicate property sales.
HB296: Paige Information Only05:26:13.120 - 2:25:14 PM; Paige sought to understand the distinction between manufactured home owners and multifamily tenants, questioning why the successful model of manufactured housing conversions could not be applied similarly to multifamily units. Klein responded by highlighting the diversity among multifamily tenants, noting that not all have the financial means or knowledge to participate in co-op conversions. He also mentioned the issue of mixed-use buildings, which add complexity not present in manufactured home parks, suggesting that these factors make the bill's application to multifamily housing problematic.
HB399: Joe Alexander, Town of Goffstown, Hillsboro District 29 Support05:29:08.120 - 2:28:09 PM; Joe Alexander, serving his fourth term, introduced HB399 which aims to establish a commission to study the historical evolution of the New Hampshire Zoning Enabling Act on its 100th anniversary. The commission would be bipartisan and include housing experts, members from both parties of the legislature, and public members. The goal is to examine how zoning has evolved, how courts have interpreted it, and how it has been used under RSA 674. Alexander emphasized the importance of occasional review of zoning powers granted to towns and highlighted that the commission would sunset at the end of the term to prevent it from becoming a permanent entity.
HB399: Greg Moore, Americans for Prosperity Support05:31:35.958 - 2:30:36 PM; Greg Moore, a regional director with Americans for Prosperity, testified in support of HB399. He stressed the importance of addressing local zoning and planning comprehensively rather than piecemeal. Moore believes that the commission's process is crucial and could help fix many housing problems if done correctly. He highlighted the need for national experts and judicial input in the commission, emphasizing the public's concern about the housing shortage in New Hampshire.
HB399: Drew Klein, Josiah Bartlett Center for Public Policy Support05:34:36.240 - 2:33:37 PM; Drew Klein, President of the Josiah Bartlett Center for Public Policy, supported HB399, referencing their extensive study on land use regulations in New Hampshire. He noted that local regulations are the primary cause of the housing shortage. Klein agreed with the importance of reviewing zoning laws on their centennial, pointing out mission creep and the need for a holistic approach to address the root issues. He provided data showing a decline in building permits despite population growth, attributing it to local land use regulations.
HB399: Sarah Holland, New Hampshire Association of Realtors Support05:41:35.240 - 2:40:36 PM; Sarah Holland from the New Hampshire Association of Realtors echoed previous support for HB399. She emphasized the need for thoughtful, data-driven solutions to New Hampshire's housing challenges. Holland urged the committee to support the legislation and form the study commission, expressing the Realtors' interest in participating and contributing resources.
HB399: Anonymous Speaker Support05:43:38.840 - 2:42:39 PM; An anonymous speaker supported HB399, highlighting that revisiting zoning is essential to address the fundamental issue of supply and demand in housing. They referenced a report by the KO Institute ranking New Hampshire poorly for ease of navigating land use restrictions. As an aspiring developer, the speaker discussed the difficulties posed by zoning and land use regulations, which are often too prescriptive and discourage private investment in housing.
HB399 2025-0023h: Representative Paige Support05:47:46.878 - 2:46:47 PM; Representative Paige introduced an amendment to HB399, which makes modest changes to the appointing authority of the commission members to ensure bipartisan representation. He emphasized the importance of the commission's findings being reliable and accepted by both parties, which would aid in future legislative efforts based on the commission's research.
HB399 2025-0023h: Chairman Alexander Support05:50:06.840 - 2:49:07 PM; Chairman Alexander supported the bipartisan nature of the commission proposed in the amendment, believing it crucial for maintaining the commission's integrity. He mentioned consulting with another Senator and expressed his support for starting the committee on housing on a positive note.