Committee Summary for House Finance (03/31/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
Unclear 00:01:28.920 - 9:00:10 AM	General Working Session	Unclear
HB2 01:04:14.720 - 10:02:56 AM	General Working Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 2025-1446h 01:40:47.480 - 10:39:29 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB1 2025-1414h 02:10:16.719 - 11:08:58 AM	Executive Session	making appropriations for the expenses of certain departments of the state for fiscal years ending June 30, 2026 and June 30, 2027.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024

Unclear: Committee Chair Information Only00:01:28.920 - 9:00:10 AM; The chair called the Finance Committee meeting to order in Room 202, explaining that the committee would review a massive budget, divided into three divisions. The session would start with Division 1's presentation, followed by Division 2 in the afternoon, and Division 3 the next day. The chair also acknowledged the presence of the vice chair and the legislative budget assistant.
Unclear: Representative Walner Information Only00:03:35.159 - 9:02:17 AM; Representative Walner inquired about the procedure for the day, specifically asking about the possibility of voting on specific budget lines and the timing for introducing amendments. The chair responded that amendments would be introduced as they progressed through the budget to avoid interruptions and sidetracks.
Unclear: Representative McGuire Information Only00:04:50.840 - 9:03:32 AM; Representative McGuire thanked the division members for their hard work and acknowledged the tradeoffs involved in budget decisions. He referenced economist Thomas Sowell's quote about tradeoffs, emphasizing that the budget process was an exercise in prioritizing spending. McGuire then proceeded to discuss specific budget changes, including cuts to various departments such as the Governor's Commission on Disability, Department of Information Technology, and Department of Administrative Services. He also mentioned changes to the Paid Family Leave program, the elimination of several boards, and adjustments to funding for the Department of State, Department of Revenue Administration, and the Treasury Department. McGuire highlighted the level funding of the meals and rooms distribution and the elimination of the Governor's Scholarship Fund. He concluded with adjustments to the retirement system and the judicial branch, noting the need for budget cuts and fee increases in certain areas.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:17:47.559 - 9:16:29 AM; The speaker discusses various changes and budget adjustments across multiple departments. They mention an amendment to the Justice Department, ending the Human Rights Commission and transferring its cases to Superior Court without fees. They also discuss combining several small departments such as the Public Employee Labor Relations Board, the Personnel Appeals Board, and the Right to Know Ombudsman, with additional administrative support and adjustments to the Right to Know Ombudsman's position to part-time. The speaker notes no changes to the Insurance Department and Department of Labor, and a significant change to the Liquor Commission where the law enforcement arm is being removed and reassigned to other areas of need like Corrections and municipalities. They also mention moving certain liquor funds operations to Division Three.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:19:48.520 - 9:18:30 AM; The speaker continues discussing budget adjustments, focusing on the Department of Corrections, noting a decline in inmate numbers and an increase in staff over the last decade, resulting in a 10% budget cut and the elimination of about 150 positions. They emphasize that the budget process is ongoing and that further adjustments are expected in the Senate and Committee of Conference phases. They also mention ongoing discussions with the COD committee regarding these cuts.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:21:49.000 - 9:20:31 AM; The speaker discusses budget changes for the Department of Employment Security, mentioning an unsuccessful attempt to cut a program to save money on unemployment insurance taxes. They also address the Public Defender under the Judicial Council, noting historical underfunding and a recent addition of $3.5 million to correct a budgetary mistake. They discuss plans for the Department of Transportation to sell highway rest areas and not turnpike ones, and mention additional funding for the Small Business Development Center, a major cut to tourism advertising, and minor adjustments in other areas like the Department of Natural and Cultural Resources and the Arts Council.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:25:04.799 - 9:23:46 AM; The speaker concludes the budget discussion by focusing on the Department of Environmental Services, noting it as a large department mostly funded by non-general funds. They mention a general fund cut of $3 million annually, the removal of leftover funds, and the addition of various fee increases to make departments self-funded, particularly highlighting changes to the solid waste fund. They thank Representative Eel for contributing to the idea regarding the solid waste fund adjustments.
Unclear: Representative Edwards Information Only00:28:40.320 - 9:27:22 AM; Representative Edwards asked Representative Maguire about the council for aging commission's ability to work with a budget of $220,000 annually and whether it would have changed the committee's recommendation. Representative Maguire responded that it would not have changed their recommendation, explaining that the work done by certain agencies is also performed by community groups, and having these agencies act as internal lobbyists was deemed unnecessary compared to other spending priorities.
Unclear: Representative Maguire Information Only00:29:36.519 - 9:28:18 AM; Representative Maguire discussed the distribution of funds to municipalities, noting that the governor's budget was essentially unchanged from current practice, with an assumption of increased rooms tax. He mentioned a document from the LBA detailing state aid to cities, towns, and school districts, emphasizing the various ways money is sent to municipalities. He explained that the decision was made to fund municipalities at a consistent level from fiscal year 2025, without an increase, to avoid cuts elsewhere. He also mentioned a personal proposal to fund municipalities differently, which was not adopted by the division.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:32:25.720 - 9:31:07 AM; The speaker discussed the distribution of funds to municipalities based on population, at roughly $100 per person. They also mentioned that a proposal to fund municipalities differently would be discussed in a bill the following year.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:33:23.960 - 9:32:05 AM; The speaker responded to a question about the $14 million cut in tourism advertising dollars, expressing a personal stance against what they termed 'corporate welfare.' They argued that businesses should handle their own advertising and questioned the validity of studies linking tourism spending directly to increased tax revenues.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:34:48.320 - 9:33:30 AM; The speaker addressed a question about a $30 million cut to the College Savings Commission, explaining that the funds come from Fidelity for using the term 'New Hampshire' in advertising their 529 plan. These funds were transferred to Division 2, which then made its own decisions on how to spend the money, leading to cuts in the University system.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:36:07.720 - 9:34:49 AM; The speaker responded to a question about the elimination of funding for regional planning commissions, which administer targeted block grants. They explained that the decision to cut this funding was part of a broader review of grants versus direct state employee and activity funding. The speaker noted that while these commissions provide valuable services to municipalities, the funding did not rank as a top priority.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:38:18.000 - 9:37:00 AM; The speaker, a longtime planning board member, discusses the budget, focusing on funding for Regional Planning Commissions. They express concerns about the unintended consequences of a proposed $100,000 cut to these commissions, suggesting that such a cut would be devastating to cities and towns due to the loss of services provided by the commissions. The speaker argues that the funding is crucial as it supports services to multiple towns within each region.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:39:36.640 - 9:38:18 AM; The speaker argues against the previous concern about the budget cut to Regional Planning Commissions, stating that the impact of losing $11,000 per commission is minimal, equating it to the cost of a very part-time employee. They emphasize that this cut would only amount to about $500 per town served by the commissions, and highlight the importance of this funding in matching federal funds to increase the services provided.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:40:24.640 - 9:39:06 AM; The speaker lists various positions and departments affected by budget cuts, including Corrections, Board of Tax and Land Appeals, Housing Appeals Board, Office of Child Advocate, Judicial Branch, Division of Cultural and Natural Resources, Department of Environmental Services, Legislative Branch, Governor's Office, Retirement System, Department of Justice, and Information Technology. They also mention changes to revenue estimates and amendments related to House Bill 2.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:42:30.280 - 9:41:12 AM; The speaker continues discussing budget details, focusing on specific changes and regulations. They mention a duplicate appropriation and discuss regulations concerning boat houses built over water, following a lawsuit the State lost, which led to the need for new regulations to prevent multistory structures. They also mention ongoing work on solid waste legislation, including moratoriums on new landfills, restrictions on landfill sites, and new approval processes post-moratorium. Additionally, they discuss self-funding mechanisms through tipping fees at solid waste facilities, which would fund the department and return some costs to municipalities.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:45:16.400 - 9:43:58 AM; The speaker addresses various fee increases in the Department of Environmental Services and moves on to discuss the housing Champion program. They highlight the fiscal challenges of the current year due to overspending in the previous year and a significant drop in revenue in the current fiscal year. They mention adjustments made to the budget, including moving $18 million from fiscal year 26 to fiscal year 25, and extending the deadline for the housing Champion program to avoid lapsing funds. Additionally, they discuss minor changes to the Commission on Aging and the Department of Justice, including the correction of a term in the Right to Know law to ensure the confidentiality of certain records.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:48:57.240 - 9:47:39 AM; The speaker discussed changes related to the Department of Labor's elevator inspection fees and the process of issuing certificates. They mentioned that the fee is increasing and that certificates will only be issued after payment is received, ensuring that only those who have paid receive a valid certificate. Additionally, they talked about RSA 31a, which is an outdated section of the budget being eliminated to avoid annual suspensions of its provisions. The speaker also briefly mentioned a minor item related to a department's grant and the acquisition of additional dams.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:50:58.640 - 9:49:40 AM; The speaker discussed changes proposed in the governor's budget concerning commissions, specifically the flexibility in appointing members to the Air Resources Council. They noted the challenges in finding suitable members as required by law and mentioned various minor text changes and fee increases in the budget. Additionally, they explained a budget adjustment moving $18 million from fiscal year 26 to fiscal year 25 to reduce withdrawals from the rainy day fund, which does not significantly affect the overall budget.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:52:40.280 - 9:51:22 AM; The speaker addressed a technical change in the management of the rainy day fund, specifically how funds are moved at the end of a fiscal year. They noted that the original proposal allowed the comptroller to move funds automatically, but the change requires the comptroller to seek approval from the fiscal committee, thus maintaining legislative control over the fund.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:53:29.200 - 9:52:11 AM; The speaker discussed the budget's anticipation of selling the Laconia State School and using the proceeds to purchase Granite Place. They noted that the decision was made to allow the sale but not necessarily the purchase of Granite Place, as the state already owns half of the building. They also mentioned House Bill 224, which involves moving money from the renewable energy fund to ratepayers, and delaying its implementation to July 1, 2027, to use the funds elsewhere in the budget due to other pressing needs.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:54:56.440 - 9:53:38 AM; The speaker continued discussing the delay of House Bill 224's implementation to July 1, 2027, and the reallocation of funds from the renewable energy fund to the general fund. They emphasized that this decision was made to address other budgetary priorities.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:55:42.480 - 9:54:24 AM; The speaker discussed detailed changes approved by the House Edna Committee for the Board of Barbering, Cosmetology, and Aesthetics, aimed at improving the board as requested by the governor. They also mentioned the deletion of the Office of the Child Advocate, which has an annual budget of $7 million for travel.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:56:36.200 - 9:55:18 AM; The speaker continued discussing budget-related items, including a $7 million budget for travel related to the Office of the Child Advocate. They also talked about House Bill 60 concerning tourism advertising, which has passed the House but was previously rejected by the Senate. Further topics included changes to make the Solid Waste and Liquor Commission self-funded and licensing-focused, respectively.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:58:06.599 - 9:56:48 AM; The speaker introduced House Bill 581, which proposes transitioning new Group One state employees from a defined benefit to a defined contribution pension plan. This change is described as a small step towards a larger shift in pension plans, not affecting current employees, municipal employees, teachers, or Group Two employees. Additionally, they mentioned House Bill 54, which allows cannabis alternative treatment centers to become for-profit entities.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:59:32.079 - 9:58:14 AM; The speaker discussed various fee increases proposed by the Department of Natural and Cultural Resources, including boat decal fees and dam fees, and noted that no specific cuts were made to the Department of Agriculture's expenses but fee increases were requested. They also mentioned adjustments to court fees, explaining the removal and re-addition of a $25 search charge to simplify the law.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:01:24.520 - 10:00:06 AM; The speaker continued discussing budget adjustments, including the Hampton Beach Commission's operational changes and the combination of the Public Employee Labor Relations Board (PELRB) with the Public Access Bureau (PAB) and the Right to Know Ombudsman. They highlighted the efficiency and low cost of these boards. Additionally, they touched on energy policy with House Bill 504 and the Youth Development Center (YDC) settlement fund, which has been allocated $165 million to date.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:04:14.720 - 10:02:56 AM; The speaker discussed the Attorney General's authority to settle cases out of court, specifically mentioning a $10 million allocation to settle one particular case. They noted that this and another case are considered the most serious by the Attorney General, justifying the allocation. The speaker mentioned that the budget includes $10 million per year, totaling $20 million for the biennium, into a settlement fund. They emphasized that this figure might be adjusted in further discussions with the Senate and the governor, indicating the ongoing nature of budget negotiations.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:05:33.760 - 10:04:15 AM; The speaker continued to discuss the settlement fund, highlighting a dispute over the payment schedules for victims and their attorneys. They noted that attorneys have been paid immediately while victims' payments are spread over time with interest. The speaker explained that a new policy would align the payment schedules for both attorneys and victims, which was not previously the case. They also mentioned other bills like HB507 and HB7 related to environmental and agricultural issues.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:07:45.799 - 10:06:27 AM; The speaker discussed changes to the cost containment policy for defense counsel provided by the state. They explained that a previous change exempted those found not guilty from paying back the cost of their defense, which severely impacted the office's ability to collect funds. The speaker mentioned that a bill was introduced to reverse this policy, but it was later decided not to fund the office for the current biennium, leading to its elimination as initially proposed by the governor.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:10:31.719 - 10:09:13 AM; The speaker provided details on several other budget items, including the establishment of a new board combining the Public Labor Relations Board, the Personnel Appeals Board, and the Right-to-Know Ombudsman. They also discussed House Bill 219, which was incorporated into HB2 without its appropriation, and the impact of the bail bill on magistrates, noting that they would continue to work but not on bail-related duties due to their unclassified positions with fixed terms.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:11:20.080 - 10:10:02 AM; The speaker detailed further budget adjustments, including changes to the maintenance of the Sununu Youth Services Center, the reallocation of liquor funds, marketing funds for the Paid Family Leave plan, and adjustments to the Arts Council funding. They also mentioned changes to the meals and rooms tax revenue, the sale of rest areas, and the addition of two new judges to the Judiciary due to the elimination of certain boards and commissions.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:13:34.760 - 10:12:16 AM; The speaker responded to questions about the positions abolished in the budget, stating that 293 positions were cut, with the majority from the Department of Corrections. They noted that some positions were unfilled and that filled positions would result in layoffs, effective July 1, except for specific cases like the welcome centers and the Board of Tax and Land Appeals, which had delayed implementation dates.
HB2: Representative Lehman Information Only01:16:13.960 - 10:14:55 AM; Representative Lehman expressed appreciation for the thoroughness of the chair's role and discussed concerns regarding the Department of Corrections. He mentioned previous discussions with the chair about Commissioner Hanks and expressed some encouragement about the willingness to further review the corrections issue. Lehman also noted the task given by the full committee chair to find $200 million in savings within Division 1, mentioning that while the division members agreed on several items, there were significant disagreements on others which would be discussed before voting.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:17:19.440 - 10:16:01 AM; The speaker acknowledged the difficulty of finding savings in Division 1 and appreciated the efforts of the division members, noting that there was no specific question but rather a statement of appreciation and agreement on the discussed efforts.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:18:22.400 - 10:17:04 AM; The speaker thanked the chair for guidance through the process and inquired about the proposed new defined contribution plan. The speaker was interested in understanding the impact on state and local employers as well as the New Hampshire retirement system.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:19:09.600 - 10:17:51 AM; The speaker provided details on the proposed defined contribution plan, explaining that it would gradually affect state employees in Group 1 due to a hiring freeze. The plan was deemed appropriate as most Group 1 employees do not stay long enough to vest and retire with a defined benefit pension. The speaker highlighted the portability and flexibility of defined contribution plans, beneficial for employees moving between jobs, and argued for extending similar benefits to Group 2 employees due to the restrictions imposed by defined benefit plans.
HB2: Representative Tersi Information Only01:24:13.400 - 10:22:55 AM; Representative Tersi raised concerns about the cuts to the Department of Natural and Cultural Resources, specifically regarding the Arts. He inquired if any economic analysis was done on the impact of these cuts on communities with Arts venues and festivals that attract tourists. The response indicated that no specific economic analysis was conducted but acknowledged the significant role of Arts in the economy and suggested that these cuts were relatively minor compared to other budget cuts.
HB2: Representative Stringham Information Only01:25:33.960 - 10:24:15 AM; Representative Stringham sought clarification on an amendment concerning the disposition of revenue from the meals and rooms tax. He was confused about the suspension of deposits into the Municipal Revenue Fund and how this would affect the distribution of funds to cities and towns. The response clarified that a fixed amount of $137 million per year would be allocated, regardless of fluctuations in meals and rooms tax revenue, and directed him to the relevant section in House Bill 1.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only01:28:38.719 - 10:27:20 AM; The speaker confirmed the fixed allocation of $137 million for the biennium from the meals and rooms tax and clarified that any surplus or deficit in the tax revenue would not affect this amount. The surplus statement would reflect these changes in the overall budget.
HB2: Representative Pri Oppose01:29:57.880 - 10:28:39 AM; Representative Pri expressed concern over the proposed elimination of the housing appeals board and the housing champion board in the budget, arguing that these entities play a crucial role in addressing New Hampshire's affordable housing crisis. He questioned the rationale behind removing these expenditures, emphasizing their impact despite their small cost.
HB2: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:31:29.520 - 10:30:11 AM; The speaker discusses the purpose of resolving zoning issues to facilitate housing projects, which would increase property taxes, revenue, and jobs in New Hampshire. They question the effectiveness and cost of the Housing Appeals Board, noting it handles only around 30 cases annually compared to hundreds by Superior Court judges, suggesting it's a 'nice to have' rather than a 'must have' due to political differences over its value.
HB2: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:32:51.119 - 10:31:33 AM; The speaker justifies the establishment of the Housing Appeals Board, stating it was meant to address zoning cases faster than the Superior Courts, thereby reducing housing prices and promoting affordable housing. They mention that a judge from the Housing Appeals Board was promoted to handle these cases specifically in the Superior Court, and additional judges are being added to manage these cases more cost-effectively. The speaker disputes the impact of the Housing Appeals Board on housing costs due to its limited case handling.
HB2: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:35:52.840 - 10:34:34 AM; The speaker provides historical context on changes made to group two retirement conditions in the 2011 budget to address a significant budget deficit. They explain that funding for municipal retirement costs was eliminated, and pension multipliers for group two employees (corrections officers, police, and firemen) were reduced from 2.5% to 2% for new hires and non-vested employees, with a sliding scale for some.
HB2: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:36:42.639 - 10:35:24 AM; The speaker elaborates on the adjustments made to the retirement benefits for group two employees, detailing how the benefits were restored to pre-2011 levels for those hired before July 1, 2011. They explain the transition from tier B to tier A over time and the implications for retirement age and benefits.
HB2: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:38:47.719 - 10:37:29 AM; The speaker discusses House Bill Amendment 1446, which addresses concerns raised by the retirement system regarding potential exploitation of enhanced benefits by retirees returning to work. The amendment ensures that retirees cannot change their pension benefits upon returning to work, maintaining the original terms of their retirement while allowing for pension increases based on additional years worked.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:40:47.480 - 10:39:29 AM; The speaker discussed the uniqueness of the amendment and its implications, indicating it was something unprecedented. They then moved to propose the adoption of amendment 2025-1446h to HB2.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Sweeney Support01:41:43.639 - 10:40:25 AM; Representative Sweeney seconded the motion to adopt amendment 2025-1446h.
HB2 2025-1446h: Clerk Information Only01:41:43.639 - 10:40:25 AM; The clerk conducted a roll call vote on amendment 2025-1446h, with the majority voting in favor, resulting in a 21-4 vote in favor of the amendment.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Sweeney Support01:43:00.679 - 10:41:42 AM; Representative Sweeney presented and moved to adopt another amendment, 2025-1439h, to restore the seven-year rule to HB2.
HB2 2025-1446h: Clerk Information Only01:43:45.239 - 10:42:27 AM; The clerk conducted a roll call vote on amendment 2025-1439h, which passed unanimously with a vote of 25-0.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:44:57.040 - 10:43:39 AM; The speaker confirmed the unanimous passage of amendment 2025-1439h and mentioned additional amendments to be discussed.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative AEL Information Only01:45:42.239 - 10:44:24 AM; Representative AEL inquired about the possibility of separate votes on amendments related to HB2, specifically mentioning amendments concerning the office of child advocate.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative AEL Information Only01:45:42.239 - 10:44:24 AM; Representative AEL expressed concerns about the proposed cut to the Office of Child Advocate, emphasizing its importance especially in light of the YDC issue. They highlighted the need for the office to continue advocating for children in danger and suggested that the budget for the office, which is administratively attached to DAS but typically comes before Division Three, should be reviewed more closely by all of Finance and voted on separately.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Daniels Information Only01:47:13.960 - 10:45:55 AM; Representative Daniels sought clarification on whether the discussion pertained to line 17 or line 45 of the budget document, indicating a need to understand which specific line item was under consideration.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:48:32.840 - 10:47:14 AM; An unnamed speaker confirmed that the discussion was about line 45, not line 17, and there was a motion to vote on Amendment 0989H related to HB2. The speaker proposed to remove this amendment from the packet, and a vote was called to decide on this action.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:50:05.400 - 10:48:47 AM; Another unnamed speaker raised a procedural question about the impact of voting separately on budget items, expressing concern about how it would affect the balance of revenues and expenditures. They were informed that adjustments would be made after the session to reflect the final numbers.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:51:09.800 - 10:49:51 AM; The speaker clarified that the budget would dip into the rainy day fund and that any changes made would be reflected in the final package presented on Thursday. A vote was then taken on the motion to remove Amendment 0989H from the HB2 amendment package, which failed with a vote of 14 to 11.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Maguire Information Only01:53:21.440 - 10:52:03 AM; Representative Maguire moved to add Amendment 2025-1444h to HB1, which was seconded. This amendment aimed to reduce the Department of State's general fund appropriations by specified amounts in the fiscal years ending June 30, 2026, and June 30, 2027.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:54:14.520 - 10:52:56 AM; An unnamed speaker explained that the amendment was a result of the Secretary of State's office requesting a back-of-the-budget cut instead of a specific position cut that had been previously voted on. The amendment was intended to reflect the office's preference for managing their budget.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:55:52.639 - 10:54:34 AM; The speaker was seeking clarification on whether the amendment replaces line items on page three, rows 48 through 51 on the budget spreadsheet, specifically questioning if it pertains to one or two specific positions. The clarification provided was that it is a partial change, restoring funding for two specific positions, which are authorized by the Secretary of State under RSA 5:23, but not a full change for the Secretary of State's budget.
HB2 2025-1446h: Unnamed Speaker Oppose01:56:39.000 - 10:55:21 AM; The speaker, representing the Democratic stance within the division, expressed opposition to the amendment, indicating that Democrats would vote against it.
HB2 2025-1446h: Clerk Information Only01:58:00.239 - 10:56:42 AM; The clerk conducted a roll call vote on the adoption of amendment 1446h to HB2. The vote resulted in 15 yes votes and 10 no votes, with the amendment being adopted.
HB2 2025-1446h: Camell Information Only01:59:31.639 - 10:58:13 AM; Camell moved to add amendment 2025-1428h to HB2, which was seconded by Sweeny. The amendment, proposed by new members Representative Neno and Dery, aims to remove contract provisions that impose diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) requirements in state contracts, similar to federal executive orders.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Neno Support02:00:27.400 - 10:59:09 AM; Representative Neno supported the amendment, explaining that it parallels language from a federal executive order to preemptively address potential federal DEI requirements, safeguarding state contracts from losing federal funding. Neno emphasized the importance of not getting into specifics but focusing on the broader implications of federal actions on state contracts.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Muns Information Only02:01:39.480 - 11:00:21 AM; Representative Muns asked if the amendment would be affected by judicial reviews of the federal executive order on DEI. Neno responded that the state would comply with federal law outcomes, but there's no specific language in the amendment addressing this scenario.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Edwards Oppose02:03:55.280 - 11:02:37 AM; Representative Edwards expressed strong opposition to the amendment, criticizing it as going beyond the federal executive order and against the principle of 'Live Free or Die'. Edwards was outraged at the prospect of prohibiting DEI in state law.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Priest Oppose02:05:04.239 - 11:03:46 AM; Representative Priest expressed strong opposition to the amendment, feeling insulted by the process. They highlighted the importance of mutual respect and the betrayal felt due to the amendment bypassing the vetting process in Division I. They emphasized the hard work done to overcome differences and have open discussions, and stated their intention to vote against the bill.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Edwards Oppose02:06:24.199 - 11:05:06 AM; Representative Edwards also opposed the amendment, valuing diversity in the workforce. They argued that adopting the amendment sends a message that women and people of color should not apply for jobs in New Hampshire, which they found offensive and contrary to equality.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Tersi Oppose02:07:31.360 - 11:06:13 AM; Representative Tersi briefly spoke against the amendment, noting its complexity and the short notice given for its review. They felt that the amendment, distributed just five minutes before the lunch hour, required much longer discussion and was not adequately reviewed in the six weeks prior.
HB2 2025-1446h: Representative Walner Oppose02:08:49.520 - 11:07:31 AM; Representative Walner expressed disappointment with the last-minute introduction of the amendment, which did not go through the usual division process. They questioned its relevance to the budget and felt it needed more thorough consideration.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Camell Support02:10:16.719 - 11:08:58 AM; Representative Camell moved to adopt Amendment 2025-1414h to HB1, explaining that it changes the cuts to the Department of Justice and the Attorney General's office to be from the back of the budget. They noted that while most cuts were expected to come from the grant area, the Attorney General made a case for flexibility in decision-making.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Abel Support02:11:38.079 - 11:10:20 AM; Representative Abel supported the amendment, acknowledging the challenges of back-of-the-budget cuts. They appreciated the discussions in Division I that led to this decision, which spared certain grants that would have affected Casa and victims advocacy services.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Hacken Phillips Oppose03:03:16.479 - 12:01:58 PM; Representative Hacken Phillips expressed opposition to Amendment 1428, citing several concerns. He pointed out drafting errors and legal issues with the amendment's language, particularly around the undefined terms of diversity, equity, and inclusion, which he argued could render the amendment void under contract law. He also highlighted the lack of limitations on what constitutes 'any Dei related initiatives,' potentially putting the state at risk of breaching existing contracts. Phillips mentioned the potential for costly litigation, referencing past cases like the divisive Concepts law and the former SB3 law. He criticized the absence of a public hearing and questioned the amendment's impact on students, especially those requiring special accommodations, and its compliance with federal and state laws. He concluded that the amendment was fiscally irresponsible and could lead to loss of federal funding, urging the committee to reject it.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative McGuire Information Only03:09:01.720 - 12:07:43 PM; Representative McGuire informed the committee that the speaker requested a delay on the action regarding Amendment 1428 until the next day. He mentioned a question about the amendment's relevance to House Bill 2, indicating that the speaker needed more time to consider this aspect. The committee agreed to postpone the decision on the amendment until further notice.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Abel Oppose03:10:10.439 - 12:08:52 PM; Representative Abel expressed his intention to vote against the Division 1 budget changes for HB1 and HB2. He acknowledged the hard work of the staff and the collegiality within the division but highlighted his concerns about various aspects of the budget, including insufficient funding for certain areas like the YDC and open concerns regarding corrections, the judicial branch, and other sectors. Despite appreciating the efforts and some positive changes like updated fees, he felt compelled to vote against the budget due to these unresolved issues.
HB1 2025-1414h: Clerk Information Only03:12:41.279 - 12:11:23 PM; The clerk conducted a roll call vote on the motion to adopt the Division 1 changes to HB1 and HB2. The vote resulted in 14 in favor and 11 against, with the motion being adopted. The clerk did not express a personal stance but facilitated the voting process.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Edwards Information Only03:13:26.560 - 12:12:08 PM; Representative Edwards provided information about an upcoming amendment, 1328, as part of the Division 3 package. He noted that this amendment would rename the Office of Health Equity to Health Access and incorporate language from a presidential executive order, including divisive concepts. This was presented as relevant information for the committee's future discussions.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:15:29.560 - 12:14:11 PM; Representative Maguire thanked the members of the committee, particularly the Division Two subcommittee members including Representatives Murray, Hacken Phillips, Kelly, Bean, Dery, and Papovich for their work. He noted that despite differences, the committee members worked well together. He introduced the topic of spreadsheets, explaining that Division Two deals with various funds including Highway, Fish and Game, and Turnpike funds, aside from general and federal funds. He started with the Department of Safety spreadsheet, discussing changes related to funding mix for positions and the 911 system, which was suggested to split funding between the 911 fund and JL funds. He also mentioned the abolition of state car inspections and the corresponding deletion of associated positions.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:19:58.120 - 12:18:40 PM; Continuing the discussion on the Department of Safety, Representative Maguire mentioned changes in the funding mix to shift money from general funds to highway funds. He then moved to the Fish and Game fund, explaining that fee increases allowed the fund to remain solvent and address small agency requests. He discussed the Department of Transportation, specifically a public-private partnership in Portsmouth and the segregation of funds for that partnership. He noted that fee increases in the Highway fund helped fund additional items like the retention incentive program for plow drivers and winter maintenance.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:23:27.760 - 12:22:09 PM; Representative Maguire continued with the Education and CCSNH (Community College System of New Hampshire) spreadsheets. He explained changes to CCSNH funding, shifting it from both education trust and general funds to only general funds and flat-funding it at $68 million per year. He also mentioned moving the Dual and Concurrent Enrollment program funding from HB2 to HB1. He discussed UNH funding, including reducing general fund support by $25 million per year and using Fidelity funds to supplant general funds within UNH's budget.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:27:01.120 - 12:25:43 PM; Representative Maguire detailed changes in education funding, moving several accounts from the education trust fund to the general fund. He discussed the elimination of a managerial position in the Department of Education and the elimination of a non-state match portion of the adult education program. He also addressed the funding of young children's programs and the shifting of funds between federal and general funds for certain positions.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:31:09.560 - 12:29:51 PM; Representative Maguire continued discussing changes in the education trust fund, specifically related to charter school funding, education freedom accounts, and EFA phase-out grants. He explained how the adequacy formula remained unchanged in FY26 but saw an increase in special education per student pricing in FY27. He then moved to amendments, discussing changes in CCSNH funding, the elimination of education positions, the repeal of vehicle inspections, and changes to the cell phone policy and education freedom accounts.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:43:14.319 - 12:41:56 PM; Representative Maguire discussed further amendments, including changes to lottery revenue restrictions, opioid abatement funds, and the education trust fund. He explained the creation of a restricted lottery revenue fund and the repeal of laws requiring certain funds to be placed in the education trust fund. He also discussed changes requested by the Department of Education, such as the use of October 1st data for charter school payments and the sharing of 911 system funding between the 911 fund and the general fund.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:46:30.600 - 12:45:12 PM; Representative Maguire continued discussing amendments, including corrections to Department of Safety requests, changes to the education trust fund's revenue split, and the removal of fiscal committee approval for distributing public school infrastructure grants. He also mentioned changes to special education performance audits and fee increases in the Fish and Game fund to make it solvent without general fund support.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:50:33.880 - 12:49:15 PM; Representative Maguire detailed further amendments, including changes to Department of Safety positions, the notification of new residents about driver's licenses, and the repeal of vehicle inspections. He also discussed changes to catastrophic aid, setting a floor of 80% for special education funding, and adjustments to adequacy amounts for FY27, including an increase in per pupil special education funding.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only03:56:11.520 - 12:54:53 PM; Representative Maguire continued discussing amendments, including increases in vanity plate fees and other fees to fund the Highway fund, ensuring it ends with a surplus. He mentioned the use of Fidelity funds to support UNH, the introduction of Keno games to increase lottery revenue, and the creation of a new vanity plate to fund a bacteria mitigation fund. He concluded with an amendment applying a 5% administrative charge to state dedicated funds to generate general fund revenue.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Mooney Information Only04:01:14.960 - 12:59:56 PM; Representative Mooney moved to adopt Amendment 1426H, which relates to the education trust fund and the handling of unspent funds from education freedom accounts. He explained that the amendment removes the requirement for these funds to be allocated to fund other EFAs, allowing them to return to the education trust fund for general use.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Mooney Information Only04:04:01.120 - 1:02:43 PM; Representative Mooney moved to adopt Amendment 1162H, which repeals the provision that would classify Continental Boulevard in Merrimack as a town road in 2029. He provided background on the road, stating it is a state-maintained road used by multiple towns and cities, and emphasized the need to send a message to the Department of Transportation about maintaining state roads.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative F Support04:06:02.520 - 1:04:44 PM; Representative F supports the amendment to HB1, arguing that the amendment addresses a more complex issue than simply turning a highway over to a town. The amendment relates to a law that the Public Works Committee has tried to change for the last two bienniums. Representative F suggests that there was an agreement years ago involving tolls and the transfer of control to the town after a certain period, but emphasizes the need to hear from the Public Works Committee before proceeding. The current law would have already been in effect if not for the delay to 2029, and Representative F believes that the state should not offload the road maintenance costs onto the town without further discussion.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Priest Information Only04:08:14.760 - 1:06:56 PM; Representative Priest clarifies that the law trying to be repealed was passed by the Public Works Committee in previous bienniums. He cannot confirm the current stance of the Public Works Committee but notes their historical support for state control over the road in question. He raises concerns about the fiscal impact on the town of Merrimack if the road, Continental Boulevard, is transferred to them, mentioning the high maintenance costs involved. He also questions whether this could set a precedent for other towns and cities to request state maintenance of roads running through their jurisdictions.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Griffin Information Only04:09:37.439 - 1:08:19 PM; Representative Griffin shares personal experience with roads that have split maintenance agreements between the state and town in his own district. He explains that the state might pave a road during summer while the town handles winter plowing. He does not believe the amendment would broadly set a precedent for other roads to be transferred to town control, given existing cooperative agreements between the state and towns for road maintenance.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative R Support04:10:45.760 - 1:09:27 PM; Representative R supports the amendment and describes Continental Boulevard as an unfunded mandate due to its high maintenance costs, which would exceed the town's total paving budget. He mentions that the road was originally opposed by the town of Merrimack but was built by the state, even taking school district land through eminent domain. He argues that if the road reverts to town control, it would not be maintained at its current standard, impacting traffic flow between major routes and potentially disrupting local traffic patterns. He also highlights ongoing state investments in the road, questioning the logic of transferring it to the town.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Abel Information Only04:13:00.720 - 1:11:42 PM; Representative Abel shares his experience from the Public Works Committee, noting strong feelings about Continental Boulevard's transfer to Merrimack. He suggests that the committee should discuss the issue with the Public Works Committee chair before making a decision, emphasizing the interconnected issues with Merrimack tolls. He recalls that the Public Works Committee had endorsed the idea of turning the road into a town road but compromised on a delayed transfer to 2029. He is personally opposed to the amendment that seeks to repeal the law.
HB1 2025-1414h: Committee Discussion Information Only04:15:11.439 - 1:13:53 PM; The committee discusses how to proceed with the amendment, considering the need for further discussion with the Public Works Committee. They acknowledge the historical context and previous discussions on the matter. It is noted that Continental Boulevard is approximately two miles long. The committee decides to delay the decision on the amendment until they can gather more information from the Public Works Committee, with a suggestion to revisit the issue on Thursday.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only04:22:15.560 - 1:20:57 PM; The representative discussed the overall budget increase from previous years, questioning the adequacy funding per pupil and how it varies across different areas, specifically mentioning Manchester. They expressed concern over the distribution of funds, noting that Manchester, despite having the largest number of students, receives less funding per student compared to other towns and cities. This discussion highlighted the need for a detailed breakdown of funding to understand its impact better.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only04:23:43.239 - 1:22:25 PM; The representative raised concerns about a significant reduction in funding for the University system, questioning its impact on tuition costs, particularly for in-state students. They noted a proposed cut of 25-30% and sought clarification on discussions with the university regarding this cut. The response indicated that while the university had planned small tuition increases, the state funding cut, though significant, represents a smaller percentage of the university's total revenue, suggesting the university could manage the cut.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only04:27:15.680 - 1:25:57 PM; The representative followed up on the university funding cuts, expressing concern over the potential impact on operations and academic programs. They questioned whether the university could maintain all campuses with the proposed cuts. The response indicated no direct feedback from the university yet, but anticipated more detailed discussions in future budget cycles. The timing of the decision was noted as a reason for the lack of detailed impact analysis from the university.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only04:29:26.159 - 1:28:08 PM; The representative sought clarification on the cumulative effect of the governor's budget and the current budget on university funding, noting a significant reduction from the governor's budget. They also raised concerns about the impact of cuts to the governor's scholarship fund on students and families, potentially pushing them to seek education out of state. The response clarified the redirection of funds and the impact on scholarships, emphasizing the broader distribution of funds across the state.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only04:33:10.278 - 1:31:52 PM; The representative, as a parent of a child on the autistic spectrum, expressed concern over budget cuts affecting early childhood and special education positions. They questioned the elimination of positions in the Office of Early Childhood and special education, seeking to understand the impact on families needing early diagnosis and support. The response explained the intended but unrealized transfer of funds and positions between departments, and the elimination of long-vacant positions due to budget constraints.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only04:37:49.480 - 1:36:31 PM; The representative discussed demographic trends affecting education, including declining enrollment and the aging population in New Hampshire. They highlighted the competitive nature of college admissions and financial aid, suggesting that universities like UNH are adjusting to these trends. The discussion also touched on the difficulty in filling educational positions, attributing it to broader workforce challenges in the state.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Oppose04:41:11.760 - 1:39:53 PM; The representative strongly opposed the significant budget cuts to the university, arguing that it would drive students out of state due to increased tuition costs. They emphasized the university's role in workforce development and criticized the approach of cutting funds as detrimental to education and the state's future. They also highlighted the potential long-term negative impact on the university's campuses.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Support04:43:33.200 - 1:42:15 PM; The representative supported the budget cuts to the university, arguing that taxpayer subsidies for higher education, particularly liberal arts, are not justified when compared to other state needs, such as those in Health and Human Services. They suggested a focus on trade schools to better prepare the workforce and questioned the value of subsidizing their own liberal arts education at the University of New Hampshire.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Oppose04:45:33.120 - 1:44:15 PM; The representative opposed the cuts to higher education, emphasizing the importance of both higher education and trade skills. They criticized the lack of funding for community colleges, which provide vocational education, and expressed disappointment in the budget's approach to supporting the trades. They argued for a balanced approach to education funding that supports all sectors.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Papichi Moher Information Only04:47:09.440 - 1:45:51 PM; Representative Papichi Moher provided information regarding the financial aid impact on USNH. They noted that USNH has provided $1.1 billion in direct institutional financial aid to students over the past 5 years, with $911 million from campus general funds and the remainder from grants. They emphasized that removing $5 million from the budget represents a small percentage cut compared to the $220 million spent annually on financial aid. They also clarified that CCSNH funding was kept flat, which appeared as a cut due to not meeting the governor's proposed increase.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Run Information Only04:48:50.480 - 1:47:32 PM; Representative Run countered previous comments by stating that the proposed cuts to the University System of New Hampshire (USNH) would negatively impact families and students. They highlighted that a strong university system is crucial for attracting businesses to the state, mentioning their own experience on business relocation search teams. They warned that cutting the budget could hurt New Hampshire's long-term sustainability by making it less attractive to businesses.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Kelly Information Only04:51:04.958 - 1:49:46 PM; Representative Kelly discussed the proposed changes to the Education Freedom Account (EFA) program in the budget. The changes include expanding the income limit for eligibility from 350% to 400% of the federal poverty guidelines, and removing the income threshold entirely after June 30, 2026. They noted the expected increase in EFA program enrollment, with fiscal impacts estimated between $60 to $100 million, and expressed concern about broadening access to educational funding at a time of state revenue decreases.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Le Information Only04:51:42.120 - 1:50:24 PM; Representative Le discussed the lottery issue, specifically the transition from historic horse racing machines to video lottery terminals (VLTs). They explained that VLTs offer a faster user experience and can generate more revenue due to no betting limits. They provided detailed projections for revenue from both types of machines over the biennium, emphasizing that VLTs would significantly increase state and charity revenue compared to historic horse racing machines.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Lean Information Only04:57:33.760 - 1:56:15 PM; Representative Lean raised questions about enforcement costs for VLTs, particularly regarding who would bear the costs for local police departments. They discussed the possibility of operators negotiating 24-hour operations with municipalities to offset these costs. They also inquired about application fees and the potential for a central monitoring system for VLTs, expressing concern over state costs if such a system were implemented.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Abel Information Only05:04:23.160 - 2:03:05 PM; Representative Abel discussed the Education Freedom Account (EFA) program's cost estimates and the potential for increased enrollment beyond projections. They questioned whether there were any guardrails in place to protect taxpayers if enrollment exceeded expectations. They also mentioned the per-pupil spending on public education and compared it to the EFA funding, arguing that EFA spending was not bankrupting public schools.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only05:05:37.840 - 2:04:19 PM; Representative Maguire discussed the Keno provision in the budget, which repeals the ability of towns to opt into or out of Keno. They noted that this change would allow for statewide advertising of Keno, potentially increasing revenue. However, they acknowledged that Keno's contribution to the overall lottery operation is relatively small.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative (Unnamed) Oppose05:07:55.840 - 2:06:37 PM; The unnamed representative opposed the change to the Keno program, arguing that it takes away local control from communities. They emphasized that when Keno was initially implemented, communities were assured they could decide whether to have Keno, and changing this now goes against that agreement. They expressed frustration over the state's repeated backing down on its word.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative (Unnamed) Information Only05:08:56.558 - 2:07:38 PM; The unnamed representative discussed the lottery revenue distribution models proposed by the governor and Representative Sweeney. They noted that Sweeney's amendment proposed 70% of the revenue going to operators and 30% to the state, while the governor's budget proposed 45% to operators. They questioned the lack of detailed models for both proposals and compared New Hampshire's potential percentages to those of other states like Maine and Massachusetts.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Abel Information Only05:10:20.400 - 2:09:02 PM; Representative Abel expressed concerns about the state's approach to local control, particularly in relation to school funding and tax caps. He mentioned his personal connection to New Hampshire and the value placed on local control, noting the struggle of many towns to meet educational needs due to decreasing state contributions. He specifically referenced the situation in Kearsarge, where a significant number of residents voted to override a tax cap to support their schools, and criticized the state's potential move to limit local control further.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Maguire Information Only05:12:15.400 - 2:10:57 PM; Representative Maguire contested the assertion that state contributions to localities are decreasing. He cited a spreadsheet showing that state funding for education is projected to increase significantly in future fiscal years, arguing that the per-student funding has always increased, contrary to claims of reductions. He emphasized the need for accurate information in discussions about state financial support for local education.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Papovich Information Only05:14:20.080 - 2:13:02 PM; Representative Papovich discussed the financial implications of different revenue splits for video terminals (VTS) versus historical horse racing (HHR) machines. He analyzed potential revenue differences and the impact of state versus operator splits, suggesting that a higher state percentage might deter operators from upgrading due to insufficient financial incentives. He also compared New Hampshire's tax rates to neighboring states, emphasizing the state's competitive advantage in lower taxation to attract business.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Murray Information Only05:20:03.600 - 2:18:45 PM; Representative Murray addressed the issue of local control in the context of school funding caps, specifically referencing HB 675. He highlighted how communities like Portsmouth and Newcastle have made their own decisions on education funding, arguing that a cap would perpetuate underfunded schools. He criticized the proposed two-thirds vote requirement to exceed the cap as an attempt to obscure the erosion of local control.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Edwards Information Only05:21:02.000 - 2:19:44 PM; Representative Edwards expressed frustration with the process of moving the question, feeling it bypassed the work done in division discussions. He sought to continue the discussion on the changes proposed for HB1 and HB2 funding, emphasizing the importance of thorough debate on the issues at hand.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Rung Information Only05:23:24.638 - 2:22:06 PM; Representative Rung discussed the unrealistic expectation of steady per-pupil spending given rising costs like teacher salaries, health insurance, and energy. He also raised concerns about the addictive nature of casino gambling, based on his experience working in a casino, and inquired about provisions for addiction services related to the proposed video terminals. He was informed that a small percentage of the revenue would be allocated to problem gambling services.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Hacken Phillips Oppose05:25:16.480 - 2:23:58 PM; Representative Hacken Phillips opposed the amendment 1215 related to changes in section 70 of HB2. The amendment proposed using funds from the opioid abatement trust fund for drug law enforcement and investigations in Coos, Grafton, Carroll, and Sullivan counties. Phillips argued that the opioid settlement funds should be preserved for those affected by substance abuse rather than being diverted to fund law enforcement operations without evidential support that the drug flow originates from the Northern Tier of the state. He emphasized the lack of a public hearing for this significant change and the diversion of funds amounting to $1.3 million annually.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative D Roy Information Only05:28:42.798 - 2:27:24 PM; Representative D Roy clarified that the amendment in question was a Governor's item, not from Division 2, and was intended to align the amendment's wording with the Governor's item. He stressed that Division 2 did not propose this amendment.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Roy Information Only05:28:42.798 - 2:27:24 PM; Representative Roy expressed concerns about the lack of accountability in the school system, citing low proficiency rates and increasing funding without corresponding improvements. He questioned the high salaries of school administrators and teachers and the impact on students' readiness for college.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Hacken Phillips Oppose05:30:41.558 - 2:29:23 PM; Representative Hacken Phillips discussed significant changes to education funding proposed in HB2, specifically the transfer of approximately $89 million in fiscal year 26 and $86 million in fiscal year 27 from the education trust fund to the general fund. He argued that moving these funds out of the education trust fund would expose them to competition with other general fund needs in future budgets, impacting special education, tuition, transportation, and other educational uses. Phillips suggested that the proposed cuts could be mitigated by level funding or following the Governor's proposal for the EFA program.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only05:34:55.760 - 2:33:37 PM; An unnamed representative defended the original purpose of the education trust fund, which was to fund educational adequacy, not other programs. They criticized past Senate decisions to increase the allocation of business taxes to the education trust fund, leading to a surplus that restricted the use of general funds. The representative opposed any increase above the compromised 30% allocation to the education trust fund, emphasizing the need to maintain the fund's focus on educational adequacy.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Papichi Support05:38:47.798 - 2:37:29 PM; Representative Papichi supported the use of education funds for K-12 education, emphasizing the constitutional responsibility to educate children over redirecting funds to other state agencies like USNH, fishing, game, and transportation.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Information Only05:39:33.920 - 2:38:15 PM; An unnamed representative acknowledged the hard work and disagreements within the committee, expressing appreciation for the committee members and staff, particularly highlighting the contributions of Mickey, Chair F, Eileen, and Mary. The representative noted the contentious nature of the discussions but appreciated the ability to work together.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Neno Information Only05:40:38.240 - 2:39:20 PM; Representative Neno, who is involved with a scholarship organization and has a personal interest in education due to his grandchildren, shared his observations on the increasing school budgets without corresponding improvements in educational quality or enrollment. He argued that more money alone is not the solution to educational challenges and suggested looking into structural issues within the educational system.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Edwards Vote05:44:00.680 - 2:42:42 PM; Representative Edwards moved to accept the changes made to HB1 and HB2 by Division 2, and the motion was seconded by Representative D Roy. A roll call vote followed, with a mix of yes and no votes recorded.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Priest Vote05:46:10.958 - 2:44:52 PM; Representative Priest voted 'no' on the amendment.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Rung Vote05:46:10.958 - 2:44:52 PM; Representative Rung voted 'no' on the amendment.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Muns Vote05:46:10.958 - 2:44:52 PM; Representative Muns voted 'no' on the amendment.
HB1 2025-1414h: Representative Kelly Vote05:46:10.958 - 2:44:52 PM; Representative Kelly voted 'no' on the amendment.
HB1 2025-1414h: Chair Wer Vote05:46:10.958 - 2:44:52 PM; Chair Wer voted 'yes' on the amendment, and announced the result as 14 to 1 in favor.
HB1 2025-1414h: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:47:00.520 - 2:45:42 PM; The speaker discussed the schedule for the next meeting, mentioning that Division Three would meet in the morning at 10 AM to vote on 28 bills. They emphasized the need for members to be prepared with their motions and reports due to the short schedule. They also mentioned that some bills had already been discussed and voted on in previous division meetings, and encouraged members to review these bills beforehand.
HB1 2025-1414h: Janet Information Only05:48:12.240 - 2:46:54 PM; Janet corrected the schedule, confirming that Division Three would start at 10 AM. She also offered to provide copies of the bills to members who wanted to review them before the meeting.
HB1 2025-1414h: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:49:10.440 - 2:47:52 PM; The speaker concluded the meeting, announcing adjournment and thanking attendees for their participation.

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