Committee Summary for House Finance Division III (03/25/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
HB2 00:11:38.079 - 9:10:39 AM	General Working Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 00:45:55.440 - 9:44:56 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1143 01:00:45.760 - 9:59:46 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1273 01:02:08.160 - 10:01:09 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1280 01:03:58.880 - 10:02:59 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1170 01:06:06.559 - 10:05:07 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1179 01:08:52.520 - 10:07:53 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1220 01:14:30.400 - 10:13:31 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1200 01:15:16.719 - 10:14:17 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1223 01:17:49.080 - 10:16:50 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1247 01:19:23.600 - 10:18:24 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1290 01:21:29.040 - 10:20:30 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1233H 01:24:43.360 - 10:23:44 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1333H 01:29:13.920 - 10:28:14 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1235H 01:44:28.400 - 10:43:29 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1327H 02:00:09.440 - 10:59:10 AM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1257 03:02:13.840 - 12:01:14 PM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 1249 03:04:24.000 - 12:03:25 PM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB751 1253H 03:08:43.319 - 12:07:44 PM	Executive Session	(New Title) requiring licensure of outpatient substance use disorder treatment facilities and relative to complaint investigation of treatment facilities by the department of health and human services office of the ombudsman and making an appropriation therefor.	McLean, Mark(R)[A-]2024
HB2 03:12:51.040 - 12:11:52 PM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024

HB2: Committee Chair Information Only00:11:38.079 - 9:10:39 AM; The committee chair opened the session by thanking the LBA for their overnight work on amendments and revisions. They announced that the session would involve voting on numerous items, with some items needing further discussion and testimony. The chair emphasized the importance of efficiency due to upcoming long session days and expressed appreciation for the committee's professionalism in handling contentious issues.
HB2: Representative Terski Information Only00:15:35.519 - 9:14:36 AM; Representative Terski expressed a lack of enthusiasm for repealing the liquor transfer to the alcohol fund but did not oppose it strongly enough to prevent a vote.
HB2: Mr. Ripple Information Only00:18:27.600 - 9:17:28 AM; Mr. Ripple provided financial details regarding the opioid fund, stating that approximately $36 million remains and more might be added in the upcoming biennium. He clarified that amendments discussed would not result in lost revenue to the general fund.
HB2: Representative Litman Information Only00:20:59.200 - 9:20:00 AM; Representative Litman raised concerns about potential conflicts between a draft amendment and previous legislation, specifically regarding the granite advantage funding mechanism. He requested a deferral of the vote to review these issues further.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only00:22:17.600 - 9:21:18 AM; Representative Priest inquired about the fiscal impact of removing automatic transfers from the liquor fund to the granite advantage healthcare program. It was explained that the amendment would replace the automatic transfer with a general fund appropriation, with provisions for additional funds if needed.
HB2: Representative Priest Oppose00:24:29.919 - 9:23:30 AM; Representative Priest expressed opposition to repealing the foster grandparent program, citing its value to the community despite its small cost.
HB2: Representative Stringham Information Only00:26:45.200 - 9:25:46 AM; Representative Stringham indicated no need for discussion on an amendment requiring DHS contractors to comply with the patients' bill of rights, and no objections to it.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Oppose00:27:40.080 - 9:26:41 AM; An unnamed representative expressed opposition to an amendment incorporating House Bill 94 relative to Medicaid coverage of circumcision, citing previous debates and known issues surrounding the topic.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:27:40.080 - 9:26:41 AM; The speaker was finishing their discussion on the budget, specifically on HB2, but the content of their speech was not captured in the provided transcript snippet.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:28:29.240 - 9:27:30 AM; The speaker moved on to discuss item nine, which involves repealing the Wick Farmers Market Nutrition Program. They mentioned a brief discussion and offered to defer the topic if more discussion was needed from the Democrats.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:29:26.600 - 9:28:27 AM; The speaker then moved to item 10, which is about revising the statute regarding the prescription drug affordability board. They asked if there had been any updates or discussions on this item, specifically mentioning bill number 1279.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:30:15.799 - 9:29:16 AM; The speaker introduced item 11, which is an amendment related to the youth risk behavior survey. They explained that the amendment does not change the opt-out provision but adds language to clarify legislative intent on making opt-out notifications clearer.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only00:31:32.799 - 9:30:33 AM; Representative Priest asked if there had been any negative consequences from the current opt-out process for the youth risk behavior survey. They expressed concerns about privacy and the invasiveness of the survey questions, drawing from their experience in corporate America as a privacy officer.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only00:32:54.679 - 9:31:55 AM; Continuing their discussion, Representative Priest emphasized the importance of clear communication of the opt-out procedures to all parties involved, including school districts, schools, parents, and students, to ensure an open environment without peer pressure.
HB2: Representative Polari Information Only00:34:01.919 - 9:33:02 AM; Representative Polari expressed that engaged parents typically review such surveys and opt out if necessary. They noted that the amendment might add unnecessary administrative work to school districts but would not oppose it.
HB2: Representative Daniels Information Only00:35:09.760 - 9:34:10 AM; Representative Daniels questioned whether parents have the ability to see the survey questions before opting out, to which it was clarified that this transparency is part of the process.
HB2: Representative Stringham Information Only00:36:21.560 - 9:35:22 AM; Representative Stringham asked about the process for student opt-out and whether schools are mandated to inform students of this option. They discussed the new provisions in the amendment that specify the opt-out process for students and parents.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:37:38.400 - 9:36:39 AM; The speaker noted a potential issue in the amendment text where it mentions notifying parents and guardians but not students directly. They suggested possibly amending the amendment or moving forward with the current version.
HB2: Representative Seaworth Information Only00:38:48.720 - 9:37:49 AM; Representative Seaworth pointed out that students are notified 10 days in advance as per the amendment, addressing concerns about the notification process.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only00:39:35.760 - 9:38:36 AM; Representative Priest apologized for the extended discussion and suggested a roll call vote on the amendment 11:30H, which was seconded by Representative Mooney.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:40:32.079 - 9:39:33 AM; The speaker announced the results of the vote on amendment 11:30H, with eight yays and one nay, confirming the vote count.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:41:58.319 - 9:40:59 AM; The speaker introduced a new amendment to 1328H, explaining that it was less restrictive than previously proposed. They postponed detailed discussion on this amendment for later.
HB2: Unnamed Representative Information Only00:43:35.280 - 9:42:36 AM; The speaker moved to item 13, amendment 1277, which ensures that the department and contractors follow New Hampshire's civil rights statutes and treats all individuals with dignity.
HB2: Representative Turski Information Only00:43:35.280 - 9:42:36 AM; Representative Turski expressed readiness for a vote on amendment 1277 without further discussion.
HB2: Representative Stringham Information Only00:44:40.240 - 9:43:41 AM; Representative Stringham raised concerns about the language in amendment 1277 that requires contractors to serve every person with equal dignity and respect, citing it as vague and potentially problematic for enforcement.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only00:45:55.440 - 9:44:56 AM; Representative Priest inquired about the enforcement of a policy related to contractors and employees within the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS). The discussion was deferred for further input from the department.
HB2: Mr. Ripple Information Only00:47:09.359 - 9:46:10 AM; Mr. Ripple was asked to recall a previous discussion about the redundancy of amendment 1026 with existing statutes and Senate activities. He confirmed that the issue was discussed but left on the list for further consideration.
HB2: Mr. Litman Information Only00:47:57.040 - 9:46:58 AM; Mr. Litman indicated through a gesture that amendment 1026 should be kept, suggesting it was complex and should be considered as a separate bill. The committee decided to kill or not advance amendment 1026, with a unanimous vote.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only00:49:07.200 - 9:48:08 AM; An unnamed speaker mentioned Senate Bill 134, which addresses the situation covered by amendment 1026 and is coming to the House.
HB2: Representative Terski Information Only00:49:07.200 - 9:48:08 AM; Representative Terski mentioned a difference of opinion on item 15, amendment 1135, related to the student loan repayment program, and suggested further discussion.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only00:50:40.559 - 9:49:41 AM; An unnamed speaker introduced amendment 1285, which involves policy analysis and was deferred for further discussion.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only00:50:40.559 - 9:49:41 AM; An unnamed speaker discussed amendment 1025, which allows Medicaid cost sharing for outpatient procedures, and deferred it for further discussion.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Support00:52:08.680 - 9:51:09 AM; An unnamed speaker moved to approve amendment 1132 for accelerating the implementation of the home dialysis within the state Medicaid program, which was unanimously approved to be passed to the finance committee.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only00:53:36.000 - 9:52:37 AM; Representative Priest asked about the cost of preparing a study related to amendment 1195, which involves documenting costs for the adult dental Medicaid program. The cost was estimated to be minor.
HB2: Mr. Litman Information Only00:53:36.000 - 9:52:37 AM; Mr. Litman confirmed that the study for amendment 1195 could be done internally with minor incremental costs and that they could consult with actuaries and other resources for the report.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Support00:55:56.400 - 9:54:57 AM; An unnamed speaker moved to send amendment 1195 to the finance committee with a recommendation to approve, which was unanimously supported.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only00:56:53.359 - 9:55:54 AM; An unnamed speaker introduced amendment 1191, related to harm reduction, which passed the House and is now in the Senate. The amendment defines harm reduction for the governor's commission on alcohol and drug misuse.
HB2: Representative Se Information Only00:58:18.880 - 9:57:19 AM; Representative Se asked if there would be any fiscal impact from amendment 1191, and was informed that it was a policy guideline without financial impact.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Support00:59:19.640 - 9:58:20 AM; An unnamed speaker moved to recommend amendment 1191 to the full finance committee, which was unanimously supported.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Support00:59:19.640 - 9:58:20 AM; An unnamed speaker moved to recommend amendment 1260, allowing the commissioner to accept gifts up to $250,000, to the full finance committee, which was unanimously supported.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only00:59:19.640 - 9:58:20 AM; An unnamed speaker mentioned amendment 1143, which was struck through due to insufficient logical connection to HB2.
HB2 1143: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:00:45.760 - 9:59:46 AM; The speaker discussed the policy restricting the authority of local public health officers, noting it was a pure policy issue with no financial impact. They moved to withdraw amendment 1143 from further consideration, which was seconded and passed with a vote of 9-0.
HB2 1273: Unnamed Speaker Support01:02:08.160 - 10:01:09 AM; The speaker discussed amendment 1273, which would allow the use of general funds to support activities and infrastructure at the Cenounu replacement center. They emphasized the importance of a corridor to connect the facilities for shared services. The amendment would lift restrictions on using only federal funds, providing flexibility if additional funds are found. The amendment was recommended to the full finance committee and passed unanimously.
HB2 1280: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:03:58.880 - 10:02:59 AM; The speaker discussed amendment 1280, which required the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) to report on allocated but unused funds for developmentally disabled recipients. It was noted that the department already has this information and can provide it, suggesting the amendment might be redundant. The amendment was withdrawn with a unanimous vote of 9-0.
HB2 1170: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:06:06.559 - 10:05:07 AM; The speaker discussed amendment 1170, which deletes section 112 and allows fiscal committee approval of general funds for child care shortfalls. There was some confusion about the amendment's status, but it was ultimately withdrawn unanimously, leaving the section in House Bill 2.
HB2 1179: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:08:52.520 - 10:07:53 AM; The speaker discussed amendment 1179, which incorporates HB223 relative to the licensing of health care facilities. The bill had passed the House and was introduced in the Senate. There was some discussion about the Senate's historical opposition to similar bills, and the decision was made to defer further discussion on this amendment.
HB2 1179: Representative Seaworth Information Only01:10:07.920 - 10:09:08 AM; Representative Seaworth mentioned that there was some discussion earlier about the fiscal note associated with HB223, suggesting further discussion on the fiscal impact was needed before a decision could be made. The discussion was deferred.
HB2 1179: Representative Mooney Information Only01:11:26.080 - 10:10:27 AM; Representative Mooney clarified that HB223, which was being discussed, did not have a fiscal note, causing some confusion. The discussion was deferred to a later time.
HB2 1179: Representative Priest Information Only01:11:26.080 - 10:10:27 AM; Representative Priest expressed ambivalence about HB223, particularly concerning the 15-mile radius for facilities in populated areas. They were not ready to vote and preferred to defer further discussion.
HB2 1179: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:12:49.360 - 10:11:50 AM; The speaker decided to defer any discussion or vote on amendment 1179 until Friday afternoon, when the House position on HB548 would be known. Representative Waller requested that counties be allowed to comment on this amendment on Friday.
HB2 1220: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:14:30.400 - 10:13:31 AM; The speaker discussed amendment 1220, which would terminate the Medicaid to schools program if parental consent policies were changed. The amendment was relatively new, and the speaker decided to defer discussion to ensure members had time to review it. A vote was taken, and the amendment was recommended to the full finance committee with a vote of 5-4.
HB2 1200: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:15:16.719 - 10:14:17 AM; The speaker introduced amendment 1200, which incorporates HB17 relative to the substitution of biologic products. The discussion was cut off in the transcript provided.
HB2 1200: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:16:44.080 - 10:15:45 AM; The speaker discussed the substitution authority from a more expensive biologic to a substitution that meets certain quality requirements. They mentioned that the budget included savings of about 2.5 million in the second year related to this and the PDAB action. The speaker moved amendment 1200 for inclusion in the budget, which was seconded and passed with a vote of 9 to 0.
HB2 1223: Madam Vice Chair Information Only01:17:49.080 - 10:16:50 AM; The speaker discussed House Bill 480, which was voted out of the House with an amendment and is currently in the Senate Judiciary Committee. There was no fiscal note attached to the bill. The speaker mentioned the serious backing from the House for the bill but had not deeply considered its nexus with the budget or economy. The discussion was deferred for further consideration.
HB2 1247: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:19:23.600 - 10:18:24 AM; The speaker proposed extending the lapse date for the recovery friendly workplace program appropriation and asked if anyone had any objections. Representative Tillerski moved to recommend amendment 1247 to the full finance committee, which was seconded and passed with a vote of 9 to 0.
HB2 1290: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:21:29.040 - 10:20:30 AM; The speaker explained that amendment 1290 would allow the governor's commission to report their spending in four major categories (prevention, treatment, recovery, and another unspecified category) without breaking it down into accounting units. This would enable the division to review the commission's spending and projected budget. The amendment was moved to be recommended to the full finance committee, seconded, and passed with a vote of 9 to 0.
HB2 1233H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:24:43.360 - 10:23:44 AM; The speaker discussed amendment 1233H, which aims to remove Medicaid premiums and co-pays by deleting sections 107, 109, and 110. They highlighted the negative impact these premiums and co-pays would have on low-income individuals, families with children in CHIP, and clients struggling with prescription costs due to doubled co-pays.
HB2 1233H: Unnamed Speaker Oppose01:24:43.360 - 10:23:44 AM; The speaker expressed opposition to amendment 1233H, citing concerns about the lack of direct revenue offset as mentioned in the governor's budget proposal. They highlighted the significant financial implications of the amendment, suggesting that uncompensated care would increase, leading to higher insurance rates for everyone in the state. The speaker argued that the plan would negatively impact the state's most vulnerable population and criticized the small revenue gain relative to the fiscal challenges faced by the state.
HB2 1233H: Unnamed Speaker Oppose01:25:38.600 - 10:24:39 AM; Continuing from the previous speaker, they emphasized the unanswered questions regarding the amendment, such as how premiums would be collected and what would happen to coverage if payments were not made. They reiterated that the amendment would disproportionately affect the state's lowest-income residents and was a wrong decision given the fiscal situation.
HB2 1233H: Unnamed Speaker Vote01:27:30.880 - 10:26:31 AM; A motion was made to pass amendment 1233H, which was seconded. A recorded vote was taken, resulting in a 5-4 vote against the amendment. The motion failed, and it was decided not to refer it to the full finance committee, leaving the opportunity for further discussion in the finance committee.
HB2 1333H: Representative Walner Information Only01:29:13.920 - 10:28:14 AM; Representative Walner introduced amendment 1333H, which pertains to court-appointed lawyers for young people placed in institutions. The amendment aims to provide the department with additional staff to manage the workload, funded by reducing the residential placement line in the budget. The implementation date was adjusted from July 1, 2025, to January 1, 2026, to allow the department more time to prepare.
HB2 1333H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:30:13.600 - 10:29:14 AM; The speaker discussed the cost-neutral approach of the amendment and expressed a preference to reduce the number of staff from four to three, to minimize the initial investment and allow for real-life experience to guide future decisions. They also mentioned the possibility of modifying the amendment to reflect this change.
HB2 1333H: Representative Seaworth Information Only01:34:59.040 - 10:34:00 AM; Representative Seaworth expressed support for the amendment's cost-neutral approach but suggested exploring the potential for it to be cost-positive. They acknowledged the speculative nature of the savings and emphasized the importance of real-life experience before expanding the program.
HB2 1333H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:37:38.719 - 10:36:39 AM; The speaker clarified that the lawyers funded by the amendment would serve as counterparts to children's lawyers, who are represented by outside organizations at no cost to the state. They noted the need for state lawyers due to the engagement of representation by these outside organizations.
HB2 1333H: Representative Mooney Information Only01:38:50.320 - 10:37:51 AM; Representative Mooney raised concerns about a potential shortage of lawyers in New Hampshire, questioning whether the department had considered this issue in relation to the amendment. They suggested that this could lead to unfunded positions in the future.
HB2 1333H: Nathan White, Chief Financial Officer of the Department of Health and Human Services Information Only01:40:05.280 - 10:39:06 AM; Nathan White addressed technical issues with the amendment, suggesting that the attorney positions should be unclassified and funded from a different budget line. He also mentioned ongoing efforts to recruit attorneys for children, indicating no significant concern about the availability of such counsel.
HB2 1333H: Representative Daniels Information Only01:41:06.719 - 10:40:07 AM; Representative Daniels inquired about the historical success rate of attorneys in preventing children from entering residential placements. They were informed that this would be a new process in New Hampshire, and other states' experiences might be relevant.
HB2 1333H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:43:19.199 - 10:42:20 AM; The speaker noted that most states already implement similar programs, and children with counsel are less likely to end up in institutional placements. They committed to providing more data by Friday to aid the committee's decision-making process.
HB2 1235H: Representative Turski Support01:44:28.400 - 10:43:29 AM; Representative Turski spoke in support of amendment 1235H, which aims to repeal the Granite Advantage trigger law. They highlighted the importance of Medicaid expansion to over 60,000 Granite Staters, emphasizing its role in strengthening the economy, workforce, and overall health of the state. They argued that the current trigger law could lead to catastrophic consequences if federal funding drops below 90%, and urged the committee to act proactively to prevent people from losing healthcare coverage.
HB2 1235H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:46:54.840 - 10:45:55 AM; The speaker clarified the function of the trigger law, noting that it does not automatically terminate the program but initiates a process that allows time for legislative action. They mentioned a six-month period before any termination, during which the legislature could intervene.
HB2 1235H: Mr. Litman Information Only01:47:56.400 - 10:46:57 AM; Mr. Litman explained the mechanics of the trigger law, stating that it includes a notification period and a six-month rollout before any potential termination. He noted that this period allows the legislature to consider alternatives. He also provided data on the number of people enrolled in Granite Advantage, highlighting its role as a bridge program for those with employment disruptions or awaiting disability determinations.
HB2 1235H: Representative Daniels Information Only01:53:59.159 - 10:53:00 AM; Representative Daniels sought trend data on enrollment in Granite Advantage over the past few years to assess whether the program's need might change. They were informed about the fluctuations in enrollment numbers, particularly influenced by events like the COVID-19 pandemic.
HB2 1235H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:56:19.360 - 10:55:20 AM; The speaker summarized that the trigger law initiates a process rather than an immediate cutoff, allowing time for legislative action. They emphasized the importance of being prepared to act if funding drops to protect the healthcare coverage of 60,000 Granite Staters.
HB2 1235H: Unnamed Speaker Oppose01:57:14.800 - 10:56:15 AM; The speaker opposed amendment 1235H, arguing that the trigger law has been a longstanding policy since 2018 and should not be changed by Division 3 of the Finance Committee. They believed that the issue was too significant for just one division to decide, leading to a vote against the amendment.
HB2 1235H: Unnamed Speaker Vote01:59:20.159 - 10:58:21 AM; A motion to pass amendment 1235H was made and seconded, resulting in a roll call vote. The amendment was defeated by a vote of 5-4, and it was decided not to take the amendment to the full finance committee, although it could still be brought up without Division 3's recommendation.
HB2 1235H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only01:59:20.159 - 10:58:21 AM; The speaker was finishing their testimony on HB2 amendment 1235H. No new information was provided in the snippet given.
HB2 1327H: Representative Stringum Information Only02:00:09.440 - 10:59:10 AM; Representative Stringum introduced a new amendment, 1327H, to HB2, which proposes to increase the cigarette tax from $1.78 to $2.20, an increase of 42 cents. The additional revenue would be used flexibly to fund Medicaid rate increases. This amendment aims to address the 7% cut in buying power for Medicaid providers due to inflation, aiming to prevent service access problems.
HB2 1327H: Unnamed Speaker Oppose02:02:42.560 - 11:01:43 AM; The speaker expressed opposition to the amendment, citing concerns over entering into tax policy, which they believe should be handled by the Ways and Means Committee. They also opposed earmarking revenues for specific expenditures, preferring funds to be allocated through the general fund by the legislature. They announced their intention to vote no on the OTP (Ought to Pass) motion for this amendment.
HB2 1327H: Unnamed Speaker Support02:03:51.119 - 11:02:52 AM; The speaker supported the amendment, arguing that it addresses the need for Medicaid rate increases without causing significant harm to the economy. They highlighted the static nature of the tobacco tax compared to other taxes that adjust automatically and noted the health costs associated with tobacco use, suggesting that a 42-cent increase is reasonable.
HB2 1327H: Representative Daniels Information Only02:06:02.560 - 11:05:03 AM; Representative Daniels inquired whether the tobacco tax currently funds education, to which it was clarified that only a portion of the existing $1.78 tax goes to education, and the amendment would not change that allocation but would use the additional revenue for Medicaid.
HB2 1327H: Representative Se Information Only02:07:12.560 - 11:06:13 AM; Representative Se mentioned a similar bill that was indefinitely postponed on the floor, noting that the current amendment is different in structure and has been cleared by the clerk and the speaker for consideration.
HB2 1327H: Unnamed Speaker Vote02:07:12.560 - 11:06:13 AM; A vote was taken on amendment 1327H, resulting in a defeat of the OTP motion with a vote of five to four.
HB2 1257: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:02:13.840 - 12:01:14 PM; The session resumed after lunch, discussing line item five of HB2, amendment 1257, which involves funding for the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) to seek maximum Title 4E funds. There was a clarification that amendment four was previously voted on and defeated.
HB2 1257: Representative Daniels Information Only03:03:34.960 - 12:02:35 PM; Representative Daniels asked about the funding source for amendment 1257, confirming it was intended to pursue federal money.
HB2 1257: Unnamed Speaker Vote03:03:34.960 - 12:02:35 PM; A motion to OTP amendment 1257 was made and passed unanimously with a vote of nine to zero.
HB2 1249: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:04:24.000 - 12:03:25 PM; Amendment 1249 was discussed, which involves funding for recreational and socialization services for individuals with developmental disabilities. The funding per individual was reduced from $600 to $595 to avoid tax implications. The amendment continues the program without new appropriations, allows for the carryover of unexpended funds, and sets up a fund eligible for charitable gaming to support the program.
HB2 1249: Representative Daniels Information Only03:06:35.640 - 12:05:36 PM; Representative Daniels inquired about the cost associated with renaming the program, to which it was clarified that there was no cost associated with the name change.
HB2 1249: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:07:23.040 - 12:06:24 PM; The speaker provided background on the recreational and socialization services program, noting it was previously part of the DD waiver program but was eliminated by federal rules. The state used $500,000 of general funds last term for a demonstration project, which has shown positive results.
HB2 1249: Unnamed Speaker Vote03:08:43.319 - 12:07:44 PM; A motion to OTP amendment 1249 was made and passed unanimously with a vote of nine to zero.
HB751 1253H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:08:43.319 - 12:07:44 PM; Amendment 1253H to HB751 was discussed, which aims to license substance use treatment centers under the Department of Health and Human Services. The amendment removes the cost for a staff position but implements the policy to monitor and improve care practices in these centers.
HB751 1253H: Unnamed Speaker Oppose03:10:51.600 - 12:09:52 PM; The speaker opposed the amendment, arguing against adding oversight positions when the department's workforce is diminishing. They also expressed concern about future funding requirements and preferred to leave such decisions to future budget divisions.
HB751 1253H: Unnamed Speaker Support03:10:51.600 - 12:09:52 PM; The speaker supported the amendment, emphasizing the importance of safety and care for individuals seeking substance use disorder treatment. They noted that the amendment does not require the establishment of the position but allows the department to do so if needed.
HB751 1253H: Unnamed Speaker Vote03:12:00.640 - 12:11:01 PM; A motion to not pass amendment 1253H was made and seconded, resulting in a vote of five nays and four yays, thus failing the motion to pass.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:12:51.040 - 12:11:52 PM; The session discussed an amendment to freeze county cap payments at the level of the last two budgets. There was a suggestion to discuss this amendment alongside others on the same topic scheduled for Friday.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Oppose03:13:37.520 - 12:12:38 PM; The speaker opposed the amendment to freeze county cap payments, arguing for a return to at least a 2% cap due to financial constraints and the lack of an offset for the proposed freeze.
HB2: Representative Daniels Information Only03:14:40.720 - 12:13:41 PM; Representative Daniels suggested discussing the county cap amendment alongside similar amendments scheduled for Friday, questioning the timing and the need for an offset.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Vote03:14:40.720 - 12:13:41 PM; A vote was taken on the amendment to freeze county cap payments, resulting in a defeat of the OTP motion with a vote of five to four.
HB2: Representative Walner Information Only03:14:40.720 - 12:13:41 PM; Representative Walner discussed a revision to a section of HB2 related to TANF and child care services, noting that the language was added without full knowledge of the morning's decisions on the same section.
HB2: Representative Walner Information Only03:15:41.439 - 12:14:42 PM; Representative Walner discussed a revision made the previous night to a section of the budget concerning child care. The revision requires the department to report quarterly to the fiscal committee about the draw down in the child care account to monitor the need for a wait list. This reporting mechanism has been included in the past two budgets.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:16:50.239 - 12:15:51 PM; The speaker clarified that the motion being discussed was not to pass amendment 1261H, which would replace all of section 112. Instead, the intent was to keep the last sentence of the amendment and add it to the existing section 112 in the trailer bill. The speaker suggested that if the committee wanted to proceed, they could adopt the amendment with the understanding that it would be redrafted as a new section.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:17:45.840 - 12:16:46 PM; The speaker confirmed the motion to adopt the amendment with the understanding that it would be redrafted as a new section rather than replacing section 112. The motion was seconded and passed with a vote of 9-0.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:18:57.960 - 12:17:58 PM; The speaker discussed the withdrawal of amendment 1310, which was immature and suggested skipping over it. The motion to withdraw was seconded and passed with a vote of 9-0.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:20:05.680 - 12:19:06 PM; The speaker reviewed the status of amendments, noting that three were accepted and one was deferred to Friday. They mentioned amendment 1333 being deferred and moved on to discuss amendment 1178, which involves a county cap and a 1% premium on counties for exigent reasons, set to expire in two years.
HB2: Representative Kate Han, Association of Counties Oppose03:21:11.200 - 12:20:12 PM; Representative Kate Han from the Association of Counties expressed concerns about amendment 1178. She explained that increasing the cap by 3% instead of 2% would nullify the positive effects of the credit from House Bill 574, leading to economic harm to counties beyond the current budget cycle. She argued that the 3% increase would be used to pay back some of the enhanced FMAP, reducing the net positive effect for counties.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:23:38.560 - 12:22:39 PM; The speaker responded to Representative Han's concerns, explaining that the 1% increase was intended as a one-time exigent measure and would not change the base RSA of 2%. They argued that the legislature could address similar issues in future budgets if necessary. The speaker then moved to a vote on amendment 1178, which passed with a vote of 5-4.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:25:36.960 - 12:24:37 PM; The speaker introduced amendment 1149, which involves distributing funds collected during the COVID crisis to counties over two budget cycles. The funds would be divided based on a formula, with a quarter of the total distributed each budget year for the next four years. The amendment passed with a vote of 9-0.
HB2: Mr. Ripple Information Only03:28:48.960 - 12:27:49 PM; Mr. Ripple explained amendment 5302, which repeals the automatic transfer from liquor funds to the Grand Advantage Healthcare Fund and the prohibition on using state general funds for the program. The amendment appropriates funds for the upcoming biennium and authorizes the fund to accept premium revenue and state general funds under specific conditions. The amendment passed with a vote of 5-4.
HB2: Representative Walner Oppose03:32:07.960 - 12:31:08 PM; Representative Walner expressed concerns about amendment 5302, particularly about the second year's appropriation of only $1 million, which relies on premiums that have not yet been implemented. They felt uncomfortable with the amendment and voted against it.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only03:34:34.160 - 12:33:35 PM; The speaker discussed the prioritization of funding, emphasizing the need to focus on direct care and obligations over indirect programs like WIC and SNAP. They acknowledged the importance of these programs but highlighted the necessity of making tough choices due to limited funds.
HB2: Representative Terski Oppose03:35:52.880 - 12:34:53 PM; Representative Terski argued against cutting funding for the WIC Farmers Market Nutrition Program, emphasizing its multifaceted impact on feeding the vulnerable, supporting local agriculture, and reducing healthcare costs. They viewed the program as a small investment with significant benefits and hoped for support in voting against the amendment.
HB2: Representative Mooney Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Mooney voted yes on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Daniels Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Daniels voted yes on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Seaworth Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Seaworth voted yes on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Nellco Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Nellco voted yes on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Terski Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Terski voted no on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Wner Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Wner voted no on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Stringham Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Stringham voted no on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Reese Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Reese voted no on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Edwards Vote03:39:12.239 - 12:38:13 PM; Representative Edwards voted yes on the motion to pass the bill.
HB2: Representative Priest Oppose03:40:01.680 - 12:39:02 PM; Representative Priest expressed opposition to the amendment to eliminate the SNAP incentive program, arguing that the benefits of the program significantly outweigh the costs. She emphasized the importance of the program in supporting vulnerable populations and criticized the decision to cut it as shortsighted.
HB2: Representative Stringham Information Only03:41:18.080 - 12:40:19 PM; Representative Stringham suggested an offset for the SNAP and WIC programs by increasing the budget reduction for the CNU Development Center by $660,000. This would cover the costs of both programs. She provided detailed figures and adjustments to the budget to support her proposal.
HB2: Representative Ripple Information Only03:43:33.199 - 12:42:34 PM; Representative Ripple provided clarification on the budget figures for the CNU Youth Development Center, stating that the adjusted authorized budget for 2025 was $12.7 million in general funds. He also mentioned the governor's proposed budget for the following years, which was significantly higher.
HB2: Representative Stringham Support03:55:48.479 - 12:54:49 PM; Representative Stringham reiterated her proposal to increase the budget reduction for the CNU Youth Services Center to fund the SNAP incentive program. She confirmed the figures and expressed support for the SNAP program, indicating that the committee found her arguments compelling.
HB2: Representative Stringham Information Only03:56:35.800 - 12:55:36 PM; Representative Stringham discussed the one-time cost associated with the WIC farmers market program, which was $560,000. She suggested that the committee was comfortable with the proposed adjustments to the CNU center budget but was hesitant about further cuts.
HB2: Representative Stringham Information Only03:57:26.479 - 12:56:27 PM; Representative Stringham proposed to withdraw amendment 1218 rather than vote on it, indicating a preference to keep the previous vote on the repeal of the WIC program as it was. She discussed the possibility of suspending the WIC program for the biennium instead of repealing it entirely.
HB2: Representative Ripple Information Only03:58:35.199 - 12:57:36 PM; Representative Ripple clarified that the $560,000 for the WIC program would lapse if the program were suspended for the biennium. He discussed the implications of this decision and the potential for the program to be revisited in the future.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only04:01:03.520 - 1:00:04 PM; Representative Priest expressed concern about the repeal of the WIC program and suggested amending it to suspend the program for the biennium instead. She emphasized her desire to save the program for future funding and sought clarification on the committee's stance.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only04:02:08.359 - 1:01:09 PM; Representative Priest continued to advocate for the WIC program, expressing her intention to revisit the amendment to replace it with one that would allow the $560,000 to lapse, suspend the program for two years, and potentially fund it if additional money becomes available.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only04:03:29.840 - 1:02:30 PM; The speaker initiated a discussion about line item six of the budget, expressing a desire for further conversation due to a proposed 50% increase. They moved to adjust the budget by reducing the amount by $100,000 for line six in division three of the governor's recommended budget. The motion was seconded and approved with no disapprovals, with a note to revisit the line item later for further discussion.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only04:05:29.680 - 1:04:30 PM; The speaker proposed an amendment to the WIC program under item nine, suggesting a two-year suspension to allow the commission to fund it if supplemental funds were found. The proposal was seconded and approved by a show of hands, with a plan to review the written amendment later.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only04:06:43.479 - 1:05:44 PM; The speaker moved to withdraw item 21 (1218). After some discussion about the options of withdrawing or voting on the item, the motion to withdraw was seconded and approved by a show of hands.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only04:08:54.399 - 1:07:55 PM; The speaker introduced a new item, 1328, which involves renaming the Office of Health Equity to Health Access and adding requirements to comply with executive order 20250 and continue a hiring freeze on four positions. The office is also mandated to serve all persons equally and comply with RSA 354B.
HB2: Representative Walner Oppose04:09:45.760 - 1:08:46 PM; Representative Walner expressed opposition to the amendment on item 1328, arguing against the continued hiring freeze on the Office of Health Access even after the executive order is lifted. They questioned the necessity and impact of the freeze, especially in light of potential workload changes.
HB2: Unidentified Speaker Information Only04:11:48.479 - 1:10:49 PM; The speaker clarified that the hiring freeze would continue on the four positions even after the executive order is lifted, but replacements could be made if employees left. They moved to approve item 12, 1328, which was seconded and set for a roll call vote.
HB2: Representative Priest Information Only04:13:05.120 - 1:12:06 PM; Representative Priest questioned the rationale behind changing the name from 'equity' to 'health access' and adding requirements for dignity and respect, which he felt were already being practiced. He mentioned ongoing research into contractors and vendors to ensure compliance with civil rights laws, aiming to treat everyone fairly and equally.
HB2: Representative Turski Information Only04:16:27.520 - 1:15:28 PM; Representative Turski discusses the implications of a proposed amendment, expressing support for the amendment's intent to ensure equal dignity and respect for all individuals. They raise questions about the amendment's application to specific groups such as transgender individuals, young women seeking birth control, and women seeking abortion care, emphasizing the importance of the amendment applying to everyone in the state. They express satisfaction with the state's commitment to treating all individuals with dignity and respect when accessing healthcare.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:19:59.359 - 1:19:00 PM; The speaker discusses the state loan repayment program amendment, explaining that it freezes new applicants while maintaining commitments to existing ones, resulting in budget savings. They reference a specific line item on the budget sheet and mention the financial impact of the amendment over the first and second years.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:21:59.120 - 1:21:00 PM; The speaker introduces an amendment related to the licensing of healthcare facilities, referencing House Bill 223. They note the bill's bipartisan but heavily partisan nature and its current status in the Senate Health and Human Services Committee. The amendment is proposed to be incorporated into HB2 to allow the House another opportunity to represent its position, with no fiscal note attached to House Bill 223.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:22:49.199 - 1:21:50 PM; The speaker mentions an amendment related to facilities operating on a membership-based business model, suggesting a delay in discussion until Friday to allow input from nursing homes.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:22:49.199 - 1:21:50 PM; The speaker was finishing their statement about the bill not having reached the House floor yet and not being in the Senate. They mentioned that nursing homes, both private and public, want to weigh in on the bill. The speaker suggested deferring action on the bill to reflect those concerns and to understand the House's position better. They also mentioned a deadline and a preference to wait until Friday for further discussion.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:25:29.199 - 1:24:30 PM; The speaker clarified that they were discussing HB480 and its amendment 1176, which is about the restoration of competency to stand trial. They mentioned that the bill had no fiscal note initially but now has one due to a pilot program for forensic liaisons, which would incur costs.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:26:24.960 - 1:25:25 PM; The speaker provided a recap of HB480, noting its progression through the House and its referral to the Senate Judiciary Committee. They highlighted the amendment's provision for a pilot program and the associated costs, suggesting that this might be why it's on the amendment list for HB2.
HB2: Ellen Le Point, CEO at New Hampshire Hospital Information Only04:27:48.159 - 1:26:49 PM; Ellen Le Point clarified that the Department did submit a fiscal note on March 7th for HB480, predicting substantial funding needs for the new program. She offered to provide the fiscal note to Mr. Ripple and discussed the anticipated costs for fiscal years 2026 and 2027.
HB2: Melissa Saintier, Chief Legal Officer for the Department Information Only04:29:45.199 - 1:28:46 PM; Melissa Saintier explained the current process for competency restoration, which is handled by the Office of Forensic Examiner and other qualified psychiatrists. She discussed the rationale for involving the Department of Health and Human Services in the process, mentioning the need for psychiatric services in the community and the potential costs associated with the bill's requirements.
HB2: Sam Hawkins, Public Policy Assistant at NAMI New Hampshire Support04:32:24.800 - 1:31:25 PM; Sam Hawkins provided legislative history and the need for HB480, mentioning that it was a recommendation from a study committee. He discussed the goal of the forensic liaison to improve the restoration rate of competency in New Hampshire, aiming to reach national levels.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:33:32.080 - 1:32:33 PM; The speaker discussed the complexity of HB480 and its policy implications, suggesting that it should be withdrawn from HB2 due to its financial implications and the fact that it has already moved to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:34:46.480 - 1:33:47 PM; The speaker withdrew the motion on amendment number 1223H for HB480, citing the bill's complexity and its passage through the House and Senate. They discussed the financial implications and the need for the Senate to see the full picture.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:37:06.199 - 1:36:07 PM; The speaker discussed the procedural aspects of HB480, clarifying that it was referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee and not waved off by the finance committee. They also mentioned the need to move on due to time constraints.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:38:24.039 - 1:37:25 PM; The speaker introduced a new topic related to standing orders for medications and medical supplies, discussing an amendment that could save money by allowing Medicaid recipients to get medications directly from pharmacists. They mentioned ongoing discussions with the insurance department to extend this to commercial insurance.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:40:56.080 - 1:39:57 PM; The speaker expressed concerns about diving into insurance issues with the new amendment, suggesting a discussion on Friday to consider extending it to commercial insurance.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Oppose04:42:09.560 - 1:41:10 PM; The speaker opposed amendment 1285, citing no realistic savings during the biennium and significant standup costs. They mentioned the impact on county nursing homes and the prohibition of supplemental payments under managed care, suggesting that the amendment was nonviable.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:44:21.320 - 1:43:22 PM; The speaker mentioned that the executive council and the governor's office want to revisit the option of managed care, suggesting that it should be included in HB2 for further Senate review.
HB2: Kate Han, New Hampshire Association of Counties Oppose04:45:06.240 - 1:44:07 PM; Kate Han opposed the managed care amendment, highlighting its potential to cause a significant revenue loss for county nursing homes. She mentioned the need for more discussion and suggested a study committee to address the issues raised in a 2018 report.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:46:11.680 - 1:45:12 PM; The speaker discussed the possibility of turning the managed care amendment into a study committee by Friday, acknowledging the complexity and the need for stakeholder input.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:48:05.520 - 1:47:06 PM; The speaker expressed concerns about not being able to get involved in the budget process due to its urgency. They suggested converting the current topic into a study committee rather than making a decision immediately. They proposed that the County-State Finance Committee could take on this work, as it involves DHS and counties, and is already established in law. They recommended discussing this further and possibly amending the bill to include a study phase with a report due at a later date.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:49:22.878 - 1:48:23 PM; The speaker continued the discussion on converting the topic into a study committee. They mentioned that the County-State Finance Committee could be tasked with this work and suggested that the committee's next meeting on April 16th could include this topic. They proposed amending the bill to reflect this change and requested a motion to convert the topic into a study committee with a report due at a TBD date.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:50:29.200 - 1:49:30 PM; The speaker discussed the amendment process and the need for a study phase. They mentioned consulting with Mr. Litman about the feasibility of the timeline for the study phase and requested a motion to amend the bill to convert the topic into a study committee. They also asked for a second on the motion and confirmed the inclusion of the County-State Finance Committee in the amendment.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:51:39.280 - 1:50:40 PM; The speaker confirmed the motion to convert the topic into a study committee and mentioned that the Senate could still pick up the topic if they felt differently. They then shifted the discussion to another amendment, item 17, regarding Medicaid cost sharing for outpatient procedures. They asked Mr. Lipman for his thoughts on the amendment and suggested looking at incentives rather than cost sharing to encourage lower-cost options.
HB2: Mr. Lipman Information Only04:53:03.760 - 1:52:04 PM; Mr. Lipman discussed the amendment on Medicaid cost sharing, mentioning that Senate Bill 313 in 2018 encouraged similar measures. He highlighted challenges in implementing cost sharing compliantly through regulations and suggested using incentives instead. He proposed identifying specific procedures where incentives could be applied and mentioned the need for system changes if both premiums and cost sharing were implemented.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:58:48.240 - 1:57:49 PM; The speaker discussed deferring the amendment on Medicaid cost sharing until Friday to allow for revised language. They mentioned that Mr. Lipman would provide improved language by Thursday morning for review. They also asked about potential savings from using fee schedules and mentioned looking at high-volume procedures like colonoscopies to incorporate into the next amendment.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:00:14.480 - 1:59:15 PM; The speaker confirmed the list of amendments to be deferred until Friday, including items 9, 16, 17, 28, 34, and items 2 and 9 from Representative Turski's list. They mentioned that Representative Waldner's amendment would be redrafted as a new section. They then announced a 10-minute recess to regroup and planned to continue working on the remaining items after the break.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:16:09.520 - 2:15:10 PM; After the recess, the speaker called the meeting back to order and mentioned the goal of finishing by 5:00 pm. They noted the presence of new audience members and asked for concise remarks. They then referred to a document labeled 'Division 3 tentative adjustments to the governor's recommended budget' dated March 25th and planned to review it.
HB2: Katya Fox, Division for Behavioral Health Director Information Only05:17:39.920 - 2:16:40 PM; Katya Fox corrected the name of the account from CMHC program support to Community Mental Health (CMH) program support, emphasizing its broader scope beyond just the centers. She discussed the funding of the 10-year mental health plan, which has been supported by the legislature for six years, and highlighted the achievements in the commissioner's roadmap and mission zero, particularly in ending emergency department boarding. She explained that the $31 million funding level proposed would necessitate a $10 million cut from current services, impacting community mental health centers, supportive housing, rapid response access points, and mobile crisis services. She stressed the importance of the governor's proposed $50 million per year to maintain these services.
HB2: Mr. White Information Only05:21:42.000 - 2:20:43 PM; Mr. White supported Katya Fox's statements, adding that the proposed cut would significantly impact over a dozen contracts related to community mental health services.
HB2: Patricia Tilly, DHHS Information Only05:24:42.240 - 2:23:43 PM; Patricia Tilly indicated that she was not in a position to answer questions about funding adjustments without consulting Commissioner Weaver, promising to return with an answer.
HB2: Dr. Hen Information Only05:24:42.240 - 2:23:43 PM; Dr. Hen acknowledged the question about funding adjustments but needed to consult with Commissioner Weaver before providing a response.
HB2: Representative Walner Information Only05:25:50.958 - 2:24:51 PM; Representative Walner asked Katya Fox about the potential setback to mission zero if funding were reduced to $31 million. Fox explained that such a cut would significantly impact services, potentially leading to increased emergency room waits and reduced housing and crisis response capabilities.
HB2: Ellen Le Point, CEO at New Hampshire Hospital Information Only05:28:16.878 - 2:27:17 PM; Ellen Le Point concurred with Katya Fox, stating that a reduction in funding would negatively affect New Hampshire Hospital's ability to serve patients, particularly in transitional housing, leading to increased demand and potential setbacks in reducing emergency room waits.
HB2: Mr. Ripple Information Only05:29:18.958 - 2:28:19 PM; Mr. Ripple discussed the Medicaid enhancement tax revenue estimates, confirming that the numbers reflected Nathan's estimates and were based on an 80% distribution to hospitals as per the governor's budget.
HB2: Representative Stringum Information Only05:30:34.878 - 2:29:35 PM; Representative Stringum inquired about the impact of the Medicaid enhancement tax on hospital funding distribution, to which it was clarified that the current proposal was based on the 80% distribution in the governor's budget.
HB2: Representative Tosho Information Only05:31:42.320 - 2:30:43 PM; Representative Tosho asked if the Medicaid enhancement tax proposal would interfere with ongoing discussions about the distribution of funds, to which it was explained that the revenue number was independent of those discussions.
HB2: Mr. White Information Only05:32:50.878 - 2:31:51 PM; Mr. White provided details on Medicaid drug rebate revenue, noting that recent years included one-time increases, and recommended specific increases for future years based on historical data excluding those one-time situations.
HB2: Mr. Ripple Information Only05:34:22.718 - 2:33:23 PM; Mr. Ripple clarified that his estimates for Medicaid drug rebate revenue were based on what actually happened in fiscal year 24, and he left the decision on which number to use to the committee.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:36:11.760 - 2:35:12 PM; The speaker discussed adjustments to line items in the budget, specifically addressing the savings reflected in line items 26 and 27. They proposed a $6 million savings for line item 26 and a $6.6 million savings for line item 27. The discussion highlighted the process of budgeting and the need to revise numbers in the spreadsheet accordingly.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:37:35.760 - 2:36:36 PM; The speaker addressed item four, which involves transferring opioid abatement funds to support the governor's commission on alcohol and drug abuse. The target number of $10.7 million was set as an estimate of 5% of the liquor fund. A show of hands was requested to gauge support for item four.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:38:35.638 - 2:37:36 PM; The speaker discussed item five, which involves savings from the granted advantage cost sharing. They noted that the Ways and Means numbers did not include a $12 million opportunity to acknowledge cost-sharing receipts for the granted advantage in the second year. The department's estimate was verified, and a vote was conducted with six in support and three opposed.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:40:43.920 - 2:39:44 PM; The speaker raised concerns about item six, which pertains to the CNU Youth Services Center's budget. They highlighted a 50% increase in the budget and requested further explanation from the department regarding the CNU estimates.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:41:32.160 - 2:40:33 PM; The speaker from the department provided detailed information about the CNU Youth Services Center's budget. They explained that the budget had been underfunded in the previous biannium, leading to a transfer of $3.5 million in state fiscal year 24. They also discussed increases in personnel costs, benefits, and collective bargaining agreements that contributed to the budget increase.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:42:37.200 - 2:41:38 PM; The speaker continued to discuss the CNU Youth Services Center's budget, emphasizing efforts to rightsize it to reflect actual costs. They highlighted specific areas of increased spending, such as overtime and contracts for youth counselors, and discussed potential implications of budget reductions.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:43:24.798 - 2:42:25 PM; The speaker addressed concerns about potential budget reductions for the CNU Youth Services Center, emphasizing the importance of safety for youth and staff. They noted that if budget cuts were necessary, they might have to reallocate funds from other areas or adjust contracts.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:44:33.520 - 2:43:34 PM; The speaker shared historical context about the CNU Youth Services Center's budget, mentioning efforts to reduce spending in previous budgets. They expressed concern about the current budget's alignment with past intentions to lower costs.
HB2: Representative Waller Information Only05:45:36.760 - 2:44:37 PM; Representative Waller expressed concerns about the CNU Youth Services Center's budget and the decision to build a new facility. They supported the proposed budget reduction but suggested that further reductions could be considered. They also expressed regret over missed opportunities for alternative solutions for the youth at the center.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:46:50.000 - 2:45:51 PM; The speaker noted New Hampshire's low number of kids per capita in similar settings and discussed adjustments to line item six, increasing the budget by $100,000 for each year. They requested a show of hands to support the adjusted budget.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:48:07.920 - 2:47:08 PM; The speaker requested that budget reductions be taken proportionally from specific class lines to maintain management flexibility. They asked for a show of hands to support item six with the discussed adjustments.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:49:33.200 - 2:48:34 PM; The speaker discussed item seven, which involves compensating counties for the enhanced FMAP. They noted unanimous support for this line item.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:50:21.920 - 2:49:22 PM; The speaker addressed item eight, proposing a 3% county cap instead of 2%. They noted a split vote on this item, with five in support and four opposed.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:51:09.440 - 2:50:10 PM; The speaker introduced item nine, which involves defunding the tobacco prevention and cessation program. They noted a split vote on this item, with five in support and four opposed.
HB2: Representative Stringham Oppose05:52:25.600 - 2:51:26 PM; Representative Stringham opposed the defunding of the tobacco prevention and cessation program. They highlighted the significant revenue from tobacco-related taxes and settlement funds, emphasizing the need for programs to address smoking and vaping, especially given New Hampshire's poor rating in tobacco control efforts.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Support05:53:36.240 - 2:52:37 PM; The speaker supported the elimination of the tobacco prevention and cessation program, suggesting that the funds could be better used for direct care at facilities like Glen Cliff. They argued that societal norms might have contributed more to the decline in smoking than the program itself.
HB2: Patricia Tilly, DHHS Oppose05:54:38.160 - 2:53:39 PM; Patricia Tilly from the Department of Health and Human Services opposed the defunding of the tobacco prevention and cessation program. She detailed the impact of the funding cut, including the loss of contracts for the quit line and the potential effect on youth vaping programs. Tilly emphasized the effectiveness of these programs in reducing smoking and vaping rates.
HB2: Representative Nalco Information Only05:55:39.760 - 2:54:40 PM; Representative Nalco discussed the data on the tobacco prevention and cessation program, suggesting it might show diminishing returns. They questioned the effectiveness of the program in light of the trend lines and overall spending.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:56:48.480 - 2:55:49 PM; The speaker addressed item ten, which involves a reduction in the budget from the governor's request. They noted adjustments of approximately $21,000 in the first year and just under $30,000 in the second year.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:57:41.200 - 2:56:42 PM; The speaker discussed the proposal to make the budget non-lapsing, allowing money from the first year to carry over into the second year. They mentioned an amendment to HB2 that would have made $20,000 lapsing from the current year. The speaker justified the investment by mentioning business plans that showed a six times rate of return on the investment. They also mentioned that business plans were emailed to Representative Daniels.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:58:56.958 - 2:57:57 PM; The speaker continued discussing the justification of the investment and mentioned an action plan for implementation, specifically referencing a house or senate bill related to biologics using Humira as a test case. They then conducted a vote on line item 10, which passed 8 to 1.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:00:54.760 - 2:59:55 PM; The speaker discussed line item 11, which involves carrying over $2.5 million in expected savings from the biologics recommendation into the second year. They emphasized the importance of business cases and accountability in the budget. They also discussed the distribution of the $2.5 million among different public payers, with a focus on state-level savings. The vote on line item 11 was unanimous at 9-0.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:02:16.878 - 3:01:17 PM; The speaker mentioned that line item 12, which was to fund $100,000 each year, had been funded by taking money from the Cenounu Center, and thus, it was no longer needed on the spreadsheet. The vote to remove line item 12 was unanimous at 9-0.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:03:25.718 - 3:02:26 PM; The speaker discussed line item 13, which involves accelerating the implementation of home dialysis. They mentioned potential savings of $50,000 in the second year from Medicare money. The vote on line item 13 was unanimous at 9-0.
HB2: Commissioner Tilly Information Only06:04:29.440 - 3:03:30 PM; Commissioner Tilly discussed line item 14, which involves public health emergency preparedness. They explained that the proposed cut would impact the state's ability to receive a CDC grant, which is critical for emergency testing and response. They suggested that the cut would need to be all or none due to the nature of the grant.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:05:31.520 - 3:04:32 PM; The speaker discussed the implications of cutting line item 14, suggesting that the reduction could either be visible in the budget or managed in the back of the budget. They asked Commissioner Tilly for their preference, who indicated a willingness to find alternative funding sources to maintain the program.
HB2: Nathan White Information Only06:06:30.080 - 3:05:31 PM; Nathan White discussed the best way to proceed with line item 14, suggesting that it should be withdrawn and the funds added to the back of the budget. He emphasized the critical function of the program and the need for state funding to leverage federal dollars.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:07:50.320 - 3:06:51 PM; The speaker proposed withdrawing line item 14 and adding the reduction to the back of the budget. The vote to withdraw line item 14 was unanimous.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:09:52.280 - 3:08:53 PM; The speaker discussed line item 15, which involves child care licensing. They suggested rethinking the current methodologies, such as using self-attestation and video conferencing to reduce costs. They proposed withdrawing line item 15 and adding the savings to the back of the budget, which was unanimously agreed upon.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:16:42.718 - 3:15:43 PM; The speaker discussed line item 16, which involves circumcision and is a house position. They proposed maintaining the house position in HB2 and HB1, with savings of $25 in the first year and $50 in the second year. The vote on line item 16 was 5 in favor and 4 opposed.
HB2: Representative Information Only06:17:31.160 - 3:16:32 PM; The representative suggested expanding line item 16 to include other unnecessary or elective surgeries to increase savings. They asked if other procedures could be added to the line item.
HB2: Mr. Litman Information Only06:18:43.200 - 3:17:44 PM; Mr. Litman responded to the representative's question about including other elective procedures in line item 16. He mentioned that a list of elective procedures had been provided earlier and that the definition of elective can vary. He suggested that Dr. Ballad would provide further input on Friday.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:19:54.400 - 3:18:55 PM; The speaker discussed the time constraints and the process of HB2, which came from a policy committee and passed a House vote with attached funding. They suggested accepting the bill as is for the budget exercise, indicating that further expansion could be considered in January when the Senate reviews it.
HB2: Representative Daniels Information Only06:21:00.798 - 3:20:01 PM; Representative Daniels raised a question about potentially replacing the term 'elective' with 'medically necessary' in the bill if it were to be addressed in the Senate. They referenced discussions in the policy committee where the term 'elective' was debated extensively, suggesting that a different term might be more appropriate for clarity and coverage under Medicaid.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:22:11.600 - 3:21:12 PM; The speaker noted that the time to amend the term 'elective' would have been in the policy committee and expressed concerns about the time available to properly address it. They confirmed a vote had been taken on a previous item and moved to discuss the next agenda item, number 17, which involved deleting the family planning account.
HB2: Miss Tilly Oppose06:23:25.840 - 3:22:26 PM; Miss Tilly provided detailed information about the family planning program, which has been operational for over 50 years and serves 2,300 people in New Hampshire. She explained that the program, funded through Title 10, operates through four community health centers (Amoskeag Health, Lamprey Health Care, Coos County Family Health Services, and Belknap-Merrimack County Community Action Program) and provides comprehensive women's health services including contraception, cancer screening, and STI treatment. She highlighted the impact of cutting the program, including the loss of no-cost contraception and the potential increase in unwanted pregnancies and STIs.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:25:22.080 - 3:24:23 PM; The speaker asked about the impact of cutting the family planning program on department employees and the rise in STIs. Miss Tilly responded that two employees would be lost and discussed the national increase in STIs, noting New Hampshire's relative luck but warning of potential future increases.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:26:22.480 - 3:25:23 PM; The speaker inquired about the program's impact on reducing unwanted pregnancies and the costs associated with them. Miss Tilly responded that while she couldn't speak to the costs, the program helps individuals plan their families, which is crucial for continuing education and work.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:27:22.680 - 3:26:23 PM; The speaker asked about the availability of alternative care through Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs). Miss Tilly clarified that there are about 13 FQHCs in New Hampshire, not 40, and they provide low-cost but not no-cost care. She emphasized that the Title 10 program offers a broader range of contraceptive services.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:28:26.000 - 3:27:27 PM; The speaker mentioned the Executive Council's rejection of contracts with Planned Parenthood but approval of contracts with the four community health centers. Miss Tilly confirmed this and discussed the importance of these centers, especially in rural areas with limited maternity care.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:30:28.478 - 3:29:29 PM; The speaker asked if men also use the services provided by the Title 10 program. Miss Tilly confirmed that the program is open to all, though the discussion had focused on women's health due to contraception.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:30:57.280 - 3:29:58 PM; The speaker asked about the residency requirements for the services and the breakdown of New Hampshire residents versus others. Miss Tilly noted that the centers primarily serve New Hampshire residents, with some potential for out-of-state patients near the borders.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:31:55.280 - 3:30:56 PM; The speaker inquired about the physical and financial separation of the four centers from abortion operations. Miss Tilly confirmed that these centers do not perform abortions, thus maintaining physical separation.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Support06:33:28.558 - 3:32:29 PM; The speaker expressed support for the centers, emphasizing their importance in providing access to family planning services and opposing the elimination of funding.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:33:28.558 - 3:32:29 PM; The speaker discussed the potential impact of eliminating the family planning line on the budget, suggesting that further analysis is needed to understand the financial implications.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:34:52.080 - 3:33:53 PM; The speaker introduced the next agenda item, number 18, regarding developmental services adjustments. They mentioned a detailed sheet provided by Mr. Ripple and discussed the need to prioritize direct care services over indirect expenses in a resource-constrained environment.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:35:50.840 - 3:34:51 PM; The speaker discussed the budget for developmental services, mentioning a buffer of $39 million and adjustments made to prioritize direct care services. They referenced a consultant's analysis and invited Melissa Hardy to comment.
HB2: Melissa Hardy Information Only06:37:11.840 - 3:36:12 PM; Melissa Hardy, the Division Director for Long-Term Supports and Services, reviewed the budget adjustments and emphasized the priority of protecting direct care and direct support services. She discussed the impact of cuts to certain lines, which would affect services to people, potentially leading to waitlisting.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:38:30.558 - 3:37:31 PM; The speaker asked about the potential for using indirect expenses as a bill payer for underfunded areas like Glen Cliff personnel. Melissa Hardy mentioned a few indirect expenses that could be considered for such purposes.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:39:58.920 - 3:38:59 PM; The speaker discussed an increase to line item 103, which supports and funds area agencies, a key part of the service delivery system in New Hampshire. They noted a $2 million increase for unit 103, which is related to the functions of the area agencies, currently funded and approved through a methodology with CMS. They mentioned that any increase in funding would require reporting to CMS and renegotiation of rates.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:40:44.320 - 3:39:45 PM; The speaker continued discussing budget line items, mentioning an increase in the IHS waiver under line 7110, which was not requested by the department. They also discussed an increase of $286 in line 502 of 7110, which was also not requested. They highlighted a $500,000 increase in line 102 under 3677 for early supports and services for non-Medicaid individuals, expressing appreciation for the funding but concern over a $4 million reduction in early intervention funding under the same line, which would not cover current expenses.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:42:48.520 - 3:41:49 PM; The speaker discussed the complexity of the budget document, noting changes across different accounts and the need for clarity on each line item. They mentioned that reductions in direct service lines could lead to a waitlist, contrary to the governor's budget recommendation. They also discussed the need to verify the goal of each class line and the potential for picking up $4.9 million through reductions, with a need to review the source of funds due to incorrect assumptions on federal dollars.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:43:58.160 - 3:42:59 PM; The speaker discussed the need to review the budget further before Friday to provide alternative numbers for budget reductions. They mentioned a significant difference in funding between the first and second year, with a need to look at the source of funds and federal dollars. They also discussed the impact of general fund cuts on federal fund matching.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:45:04.080 - 3:44:05 PM; The speaker discussed line item 819 related to a state loan repayment program, noting the impact in the first and second year. They mentioned a vote on this line item, which resulted in a 5-4 decision. They also discussed line item 20, suggesting the possibility of identifying offsets to make it cost-neutral.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:46:17.520 - 3:45:18 PM; The speaker discussed line items 21 and 22 related to Medicaid recoveries, explaining that an investment in specific job descriptions could increase recovery rates. They confirmed the estimates provided were conservative and expressed hope for higher recoveries. They also explained that Medicaid recoveries are estate recoveries, not affecting live patients.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:49:42.160 - 3:48:43 PM; The speaker discussed line item 23, which involves eliminating a contract related to Master Licensed Drug and Alcohol Counselors (MLC), with a reduction of about $2 million. They explained the role of MLCs in providing direct services and consultation within the DCYF system. They also discussed line items 24 and 25, which involve reductions in contracts with the Department of Corrections and Friends of Anie and E, respectively, and line item 26, which is on hold pending a House Bill 2 amendment.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:57:21.840 - 3:56:22 PM; The speaker discussed line item 27, noting that there were no dollar amounts listed for new contracts.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:58:13.840 - 3:57:14 PM; The speaker discussed additional contracts outside of the committee's work, specifically mentioning a contract related to critical time intervention funded from account 4117 and another contract with UNH for epidemiological work. The speaker noted uncertainty about the funding sources for the UNH contract, whether it's general funds or federal funds, and suggested that HHS should address these issues. The speaker also mentioned an email received about the general fund amount for the epidemiology contract, stating it was $92,000 combined for two years, with $46,400 per year. The discussion touched on the possibility of cutting the general fund portion, which would reduce services but allow continued use of federal funds.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:00:31.520 - 3:59:32 PM; The speaker continued the discussion on the budget, focusing on line items and proposed amendments. They talked about the need for more data on specific contracts and the challenge of budget calculations, mentioning that Division Three's budget depends on the cuts made by other divisions. A vote was proposed on line item 27, but it was decided to wait until more data was available on Friday. The speaker also mentioned nine small line items, focusing on funding for children's behavioral resource centers and expressing concern about potential cuts and the need for offsets.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:03:11.600 - 4:02:12 PM; The discussion continued with a vote on line item one, which failed with a vote of four to five. The speaker then moved to line item two, which was about funding for Waypoint, and it passed unanimously. Line item three concerned funding the child care workforce fund with federal TANF money, and it was decided to change the funding source from general funds to federal funds, subject to the availability of TANF funds. This amendment also passed unanimously.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:07:58.400 - 4:06:59 PM; The speaker discussed line item four, which proposed funding for the Division of Economic Stability call center. The need for this funding was highlighted due to the division's inability to process inquiries and eligibility approvals effectively. The proposal failed with a vote of four to five. Line item five, connected to the previous item, also failed. The speaker then moved to line item six, which was about funding unfunded positions in economic stability and Glencliff, but it was noted that this had already been voted on.
HB2: Karen Heert, Director of the Division of Economic Stability for DHS Information Only07:08:46.160 - 4:07:47 PM; Karen Heert explained the necessity of the tier one call center for the Division of Economic Stability, which handles inbound calls related to eligibility programs. She emphasized the importance of this service for low-income families and vulnerable populations, helping them navigate public assistance programs. Heert noted that without funding for the call center, 7% of the staff would need to be reassigned to phones, reducing capacity. She also mentioned that the service is a contracted one and that the department has the authority to transfer funds if needed.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:14:26.958 - 4:13:27 PM; The speaker discussed the budget implications for Glencliff and the New Hampshire Hospital. They noted that the governor's budget did not fund certain positions, leading to potential reductions in census and revenue shortfalls. A proposal was made to add a nominal $5,000 to line item six to flag the issue for the Senate, hoping they would consider additional funding. This proposal passed with a vote of five to four. A similar approach was taken with line item seven for the New Hampshire Hospital, also passing with a vote of five to four.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:27:33.760 - 4:26:34 PM; The speaker discussed the budget request for FY27, specifically mentioning a request for $93,000 related to Representative Terski's mold and mildew prevention initiative. The speaker explained the calculation of this amount, stating it was derived from a proforma budget excluding personnel costs and prorated for six months of facility maintenance expenses.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:28:23.920 - 4:27:24 PM; The speaker proposed reducing the mold and mildew prevention budget from $93,000 to $5,000 due to budget constraints, emphasizing the need to continue discussions with the Senate and monitor revenue. A vote was taken on this reduction, with Representative Walner noted as opposing.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:29:39.760 - 4:28:40 PM; The discussion shifted to the elimination of Medicaid cost sharing provisions related to an amendment (1233H) to HB2. The amendment was not approved, and the speaker noted the lack of new funding available for this initiative. A vote was taken on whether to allocate $4 million for this, but it was ultimately decided not to proceed with this item.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:30:47.600 - 4:29:48 PM; The speaker mentioned resolving all items except for line 17 and items deferred to Friday. A short recess was called to ensure clarity on line 17.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:37:18.958 - 4:36:19 PM; After the recess, the speaker addressed item 17, which involved deleting the family planning account. The motion was to remove this line, which would impact the budget by $840,000 each year. The speaker clarified that this was a choice by the majority, despite the governor's funding recommendation.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Oppose07:38:06.638 - 4:37:07 PM; The speaker opposed the deletion of the family planning account, highlighting its importance, especially in the North Country where similar services are scarce. They suggested that instead of deleting the line, the commissioner should be allowed to determine how to best use the funds, given the program's success in reducing unwanted teen pregnancies and managing STDs.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:39:12.878 - 4:38:13 PM; The speaker proposed an alternative to deleting the family planning account, suggesting zeroing it out with a footnote allowing the commissioner to fund it as resources become available. They emphasized the need for analysis to assess feasible options and the committee's responsibility to suggest budget cuts.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:41:15.798 - 4:40:16 PM; The speaker discussed reducing the family planning account cut from $840,000 to $835,000, leaving $5,000 in the budget. This would flag the issue for the Senate and allow time for the commissioner to conduct an analysis. The speaker sought guidance on this approach.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:42:02.478 - 4:41:03 PM; The speaker expressed uncertainty about adding a $5,000 footnote to the budget line, suggesting a vote to reduce the amount on line 17 to flag it. They apologized for not being prepared to make a definitive statement on the matter.
HB2: Representative Mooney Information Only07:43:27.440 - 4:42:28 PM; Representative Mooney discussed the budget situation, noting that savings were smaller than initially projected and the budget had grown. They proposed deleting the family planning account line item to save nearly $4 million, describing it as a cost-saving measure in a difficult budget year.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:44:53.478 - 4:43:54 PM; The speaker introduced department-requested changes to the budget, which were described as uncontroversial and involved moving money within the department. The changes would reduce general funds by specified amounts in the first and second years.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:46:14.638 - 4:45:15 PM; The speaker discussed the need to finalize budget items by Friday, mentioning that they had punted several items to that day. They also mentioned needing to plug in numbers for HB2 corrections and coordinate with their team.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:47:22.718 - 4:46:23 PM; The speaker expressed confidence in being able to figure out the back of the budget before the next meeting, based on actions taken by other divisions. They discussed the challenge of calculating the budget with large dollar amounts still undecided.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:48:31.520 - 4:47:32 PM; The speaker clarified the budget cut targets, explaining that the initial figure of $120 million per year was set lower to encourage feedback from Democrats. They revealed that the actual target was closer to $145 million per year, totaling $290 million, subject to further adjustments.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:49:57.440 - 4:48:58 PM; The speaker acknowledged the difficulty of the budget process and expressed appreciation for the patience and effort of those involved. They noted the necessity of making tough decisions and the desire to fund all programs but recognized the constraints they were working under. The meeting was recessed until 1:00 PM on Friday.