Committee Summary for House Finance Division II (02/19/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
HB129 00:07:36.520 - 9:36:37 AM	General Working Session	relative to the definition of the term "evidence-based" within public education.	Belcher, Mike(R)[A]2024
HB129 00:18:10.280 - 9:47:11 AM	Executive Session	relative to the definition of the term "evidence-based" within public education.	Belcher, Mike(R)[A]2024
HB133 00:56:30.280 - 10:25:31 AM	Executive Session	modifying the new resident drivers' license transfer requirements, specifying when the division of motor vehicles shall send violation notices, and appropriating funds to the division for technological upgrades required for legal compliance.	Prout, Andrew(R)[A]2024
Unclear 02:34:03.479 - 12:03:04 PM	General Working Session	Unclear
HB133 00:21:46.760 - 9:50:47 AM	General Working Session	modifying the new resident drivers' license transfer requirements, specifying when the division of motor vehicles shall send violation notices, and appropriating funds to the division for technological upgrades required for legal compliance.	Prout, Andrew(R)[A]2024

HB129: Melissa White, Division Director for Learner Support, Department of Education Information Only00:07:36.520 - 9:36:37 AM; Melissa White discussed the proposed legislation, HB129, which aims to define 'evidence-based' within public education. She highlighted the criteria for evidence-based practices as outlined in the bill, including reproducibility in multiple well-designed studies within a single discipline and independent confirmation across multiple disciplines. She noted that this definition conflicts with the federal definition, which categorizes evidence into four tiers: strong, moderate, promising, and demonstrating a rationale. White expressed concerns about the practical implementation of the bill, stating that it would require a complete overhaul of current educational practices and curricula. She mentioned specific examples like the memorization of times tables, cursive handwriting, and civics education, which do not meet the proposed definition of evidence-based. Additionally, she pointed out the potential need for a new state position to oversee the implementation, which would incur costs not currently appropriated in the bill. She also addressed the potential impact on federal funding, suggesting that while state funding might remain unaffected, pass-through funding could be challenged.
HB129: Representative Hacken Phillips Information Only00:13:02.240 - 9:42:03 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips acknowledged the local impact of HB129, noting that local school districts are responsible for implementing education across the state. He questioned the state's impact, particularly concerning the fiscal note that estimates the cost of a new position at the Department of Education to oversee the implementation of the bill. He also inquired about potential impacts on federal funding due to the definitional conflict between state and federal law, to which Melissa White responded that she believed state federal funding would remain unaffected, but pass-through funding might require restructuring.
HB129: Representative Murray Oppose00:15:21.759 - 9:44:22 AM; Representative Murray expressed concerns about the feasibility of implementing HB129, citing the heavy lift it would represent for the Department of Education and the fiscal demands it would place on local schools. He highlighted the lack of understanding of the financial impact at the local level and mentioned Representative Lad's bill about accommodating unreported local funding. Murray concluded that the bill seemed unworkable and potentially costly, especially given the current budget cycle challenges.
HB129: Representative Papovich Oppose00:18:10.280 - 9:47:11 AM; Representative Papovich suggested retaining HB129 for the time being, indicating a preference to address more pressing issues during the current session. He proposed revisiting the bill later if time allows, but for now, he considered it a lower priority given the other challenges the finance committee is facing. He moved to retain the bill, but also stated his belief that the program is unworkable and could be incredibly costly, expressing his opposition to the bill.
HB129: Representative Kelly Oppose00:19:27.120 - 9:48:28 AM; Representative Kelly expressed concerns about the potential for HB129 to shift costs to the local level, noting that schools are already under financial pressure. She highlighted the broader issue of cost downshifting and its impact on local education funding.
HB129: Chairman Keith Earth Information Only00:21:11.720 - 9:50:12 AM; Chairman Keith Earth conducted a vote on the motion to retain HB129. The vote resulted in seven 'yes' votes with no 'nays', indicating that the motion passed. Following the vote, he closed the hearing on HB129 and opened the hearing on the next bill, HB133, which pertains to the Department of Safety.
HB129: Melissa White, Division Director for Learner Support, Department of Education Information Only00:06:45.000 - 9:35:46 AM; Melissa White provided an overview of the proposed legislation concerning the definition of evidence-based within public education. She explained that the bill requires educational practices to be backed by reproducible studies within a single discipline and confirmed by studies across multiple disciplines. She highlighted the conflict with the federal definition of evidence-based, which is categorized into four tiers: strong, moderate, promising, and demonstrating a rationale. White pointed out that the bill's strict definition would necessitate a significant overhaul of current educational practices, including curriculum and teacher training, which could be challenging and costly. She cited examples such as the memorization of times tables, cursive handwriting, and Civics education, which do not meet the proposed evidence-based standards. White also discussed the potential impact on local schools and the need for a new state position to implement the requirements, costing an estimated $118,000 to $127,000 over the fiscal years. She addressed concerns about potential effects on federal funding, suggesting that while state-level funding might remain unaffected, the pass-through funding to local schools could be impacted.
HB129: Representative Hacken Phillips Information Only00:13:02.240 - 9:42:03 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips acknowledged the local impact of the bill, noting the fiscal note's mention of a new position costing between $118,000 and $127,000 over the next few fiscal years. He questioned the potential impact on federal funding due to the definitional conflict between state and federal law. Phillips expressed concerns about the feasibility and cost of implementing such a program during the current budget cycle.
HB129: Representative Murray Information Only00:15:21.759 - 9:44:22 AM; Representative Murray expressed concerns about the practicality of the bill, noting the significant impact it would have on local schools and the potential unreported costs at the local level. He highlighted the challenge of justifying a new program with such a large fiscal impact during a budget cycle focused on cost reduction.
HB129: Representative Papovich Oppose00:18:10.280 - 9:47:11 AM; Representative Papovich suggested retaining the bill to see if concerns could be addressed later. He expressed doubts about the bill's workability and potential cost, indicating a preference for it to be dropped due to the current session's budgetary constraints.
HB129: Representative Kelly Information Only00:19:27.120 - 9:48:28 AM; Representative Kelly expressed concerns about the bill's impact at the local level, particularly the potential for increased costs to be shifted to schools that are already under financial pressure.
HB129: John Morasco, DMV, and Assistant Director Jennifer Bailey Information Only00:21:46.760 - 9:50:47 AM; John Morasco and Jennifer Bailey discussed the fiscal implications of a different bill (HB133) impacting the Department of Safety. They mentioned a technology upgrade costing $40,000 and the need for a full-time position to handle correspondence related to voting and driver's license issues. They highlighted the challenges in tracking individuals who do not obtain a New Hampshire license within 60 days of voting with an out-of-state ID, and the potential need for manual processes to handle non-exact matches in the database. They also noted that the bill's scope extends beyond voting to anyone in the state for over 60 days without a license, which would require additional research. The discussion included concerns about the practicality and cost of implementing such a system during the current budget cycle, as well as the lack of consequences for non-compliance.
HB129: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:07:36.520 - 9:36:37 AM; The speaker, who has a background in education, questioned the source of evidence for evidence-based educational practices as outlined in the proposed legislation. They expressed concerns about the validity and reliability of statistical evidence and sought clarification on the criteria used to determine what is considered evidence-based in education.
HB129: Jennifer Bailey, DMV Assistant Director Information Only00:08:22.080 - 9:37:23 AM; Jennifer Bailey explained the proposed legislation's criteria for evidence-based educational practices, which include reproducibility in multiple well-designed studies within a single discipline and independent confirmation across multiple disciplines. She highlighted the conflict between the proposed legislation and the federal definition of evidence-based practices, which is categorized into four tiers. She noted the complexity and potential challenges in implementing these standards, particularly given existing state laws such as the memorization of times tables and cursive handwriting requirements, which do not meet the proposed evidence-based criteria. She also mentioned the impact on local schools and the need for a new position at the state level to oversee the implementation, costing approximately $118,000 per year. She addressed concerns about federal funding and the potential need to restructure grant program evaluations.
HB129: Representative Hacken Phillips Information Only00:13:02.240 - 9:42:03 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips acknowledged the local impact of the proposed legislation and raised concerns about the state's fiscal note, which did not include the appropriation for the new position. They also inquired about potential impacts on federal funding due to the definitional change between state and federal evidence-based practices.
HB129: Representative Murray Oppose00:15:21.759 - 9:44:22 AM; Representative Murray expressed concerns about the feasibility and cost implications of the proposed legislation, particularly at the local level. They highlighted the lack of understanding of the fiscal demands on local schools and mentioned Representative Lad's bill regarding local school district funding. They argued that the proposed legislation would require significant funding at the local level, which might not be reflected in fiscal notes.
HB129: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:17:47.039 - 9:46:48 AM; The speaker, likely a member of the finance committee, noted the significant challenges of the upcoming budget cycle and questioned the justification for a new program with substantial costs that are not technically appropriated. They expressed difficulty in reconciling the need to tighten the budget with the expansion of programs.
HB129: Representative Papovich Information Only00:18:10.280 - 9:47:11 AM; Representative Papovich suggested retaining the bill, HB129, to see if concerns could be addressed later. They emphasized the need to focus on more pressing issues during the current session and expressed openness to revisiting the bill if time allowed.
HB129: Representative Pap Oppose00:18:38.240 - 9:47:39 AM; Representative Pap made a motion to retain HB129, expressing their view that the proposed program is unworkable and potentially very costly. They indicated a lack of support for the bill but agreed to retain it for potential future consideration.
HB129: Representative Kelly Information Only00:19:27.120 - 9:48:28 AM; Representative Kelly expressed concerns about the proposed legislation's impact on local schools, particularly the potential for cost downshifting at a time when schools are under pressure.
HB129: John Morasco, DMV Information Only00:21:46.760 - 9:50:47 AM; John Morasco and Assistant Director Jennifer Bailey from the DMV discussed the fiscal impact of a different bill, HB133, which involves technology upgrades and the need for a full-time position to handle correspondence related to voting with out-of-state licenses. They highlighted the costs associated with the bill, including the $40,000 for system updates and the need for manual processing of notices. They also discussed the broader implications of the bill beyond voting, such as tracking individuals who do not get a New Hampshire license within 60 days of moving to the state.
HB129: Jennifer Bailey, DMV Assistant Director Information Only00:23:19.159 - 9:52:20 AM; Jennifer Bailey provided further details on the fiscal note for HB133, explaining the need for a full-time position to handle the manual processing of notices due to potential mismatches in the system. She noted that the bill's scope includes tracking individuals beyond voting, which adds complexity and potential costs not covered in the fiscal note.
HB129: Representative Hacken Phillips Information Only00:24:59.600 - 9:54:00 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips inquired about the inclusion of postage estimates in the fiscal note for HB133, to which Jennifer Bailey confirmed that postage was not included.
HB129: Representative Dy Information Only00:24:59.600 - 9:54:00 AM; Representative Dy asked if the position required for HB133 could be part-time or temporary, to which Jennifer Bailey responded that it would depend on the workload, which is uncertain.
HB129: Representative Murray Information Only00:25:46.960 - 9:54:47 AM; Representative Murray questioned the necessity of addressing the issue during the current budget cycle, given the costs and uncertainties associated with HB133. They sought to understand if there was a substantial problem that needed immediate attention.
HB129: John Morasco, DMV Information Only00:26:32.919 - 9:55:33 AM; John Morasco elaborated on the scope and implications of HB133, explaining that the bill triggers action by the DMV when someone votes with an out-of-state ID and does not obtain a New Hampshire license within 90 days. He questioned the role of the DMV in reaching out to individuals and the lack of consequences for non-compliance, suggesting that the bill might be more of a research program to identify patterns for future use.
HB129: Representative Papovich Information Only00:28:57.720 - 9:57:58 AM; Representative Papovich inquired about other interactions that could indicate someone has moved to New Hampshire and thus start the 60-day clock for obtaining a license. John Morasco responded that such interactions are limited and often based on law enforcement contact or neighbor reports, highlighting the gray area in determining residency.
HB129: John Morasco, DMV Information Only00:32:47.799 - 10:01:48 AM; John Morasco further clarified the role of the DMV in license requirements, noting that the 60-day rule for obtaining a New Hampshire license is in statute. He discussed exceptions to the rule, such as international driver's licenses and agricultural visas, and admitted uncertainty about the origin of the 60-day requirement.
HB129: Unnamed Speaker Information Only00:18:10.280 - 9:47:11 AM; The speaker suggests retaining HB129 to address concerns later, indicating that there are bigger issues to focus on at the moment. They propose a motion to retain the bill.
HB129: Representative Pap Oppose00:18:38.240 - 9:47:39 AM; Representative Pap motions to retain HB129, expressing concerns about the bill being unworkable and costly. They do not support the bill but agree to retain it due to the session's dynamics and probable support for retention.
HB129: Representative Kelly Information Only00:19:27.120 - 9:48:28 AM; Representative Kelly expresses concerns about the bill's impact at the local level, particularly regarding cost downshifting to schools which are already under pressure.
HB129: Unnamed Speaker Information Only00:20:14.600 - 9:49:15 AM; The speaker conducts a vote on the motion to retain HB129, resulting in seven 'Yes' votes and no 'No' votes, with the motion passing.
HB129: Representative Papovich Oppose00:18:38.240 - 9:47:39 AM; Representative Papovich expressed opposition to retaining HB129, describing the program as unworkable and potentially costly. They mentioned retaining the bill due to probable support from other committee members but emphasized their personal stance against it, citing the session's fiscal challenges.
HB129: Representative Kelly Oppose00:19:27.120 - 9:48:28 AM; Representative Kelly raised concerns about the impact of HB129 at the local level, specifically mentioning the potential for increased costs being shifted to schools. They expressed worry about the pressure this could put on schools financially.
HB133: Representative Papovich Support00:56:30.280 - 10:25:31 AM; Representative Papovich proposed retaining HB133, indicating a motion to keep the bill for further consideration. They did not elaborate on specific reasons for support but mentioned the need to retain due to the ongoing legislative process.
Unclear: Mickey Landrian, LBA Information Only02:34:03.479 - 12:03:04 PM; Mickey Landrian from the Legislative Budget Assistant's office provided an overview of the upcoming budget process and the documents provided to the committee. They highlighted the process of going through the budget page by page with agencies, the significance of different funding sources, and the changes proposed in the governor's recommended budget. They also discussed the potential for policy changes, such as the introduction of video lottery terminals, and the need for the committee to consider the fiscal impact of such changes.
Unclear: Representative Earth Information Only02:37:10.200 - 12:06:11 PM; Representative Earth discussed the process of going through the budget line by line, expressing support for this method as a means of thorough review. They emphasized the importance of understanding each line item, especially those involving federal funds, to make informed decisions.
Unclear: Representative Kelly Information Only02:38:42.560 - 12:07:43 PM; Representative Kelly expressed a preference for the line-by-line review process, noting it as a more professional approach and sharing their experience from previous sessions. They agreed with the process and the need to understand the budget thoroughly.
Unclear: Representative Dy Information Only02:42:38.600 - 12:11:39 PM; Representative Dy sought clarification on how to understand budget changes, particularly when funds are moved or when accounts show zeros. They also asked about the positions and funding within the budget, highlighting the need for clarity on these aspects.
Unclear: Representative Murray Information Only03:13:40.319 - 12:42:41 PM; Representative Murray expressed concerns about the budget, particularly the potential deficit in the education trust fund and the implications of funding decisions. They asked about the historical handling of deficits in the education trust fund and the possibility of the full finance committee making changes to division recommendations.
Unclear: Representative Hacken Phillips Information Only02:58:05.720 - 12:27:06 PM; Representative Hacken Phillips raised concerns about the policy implications of the proposed video lottery terminals, suggesting the need for a public hearing on this significant change. They also discussed the importance of considering the public's input on major policy shifts and the potential impact on communities.
HB133: John Morasco, Representative, and Jennifer Bailey, Assistant Director, DMV Information Only00:21:46.760 - 9:50:47 AM; John Morasco and Jennifer Bailey from the DMV provided information on the fiscal impact of a proposed bill. They discussed a technology upgrade costing $40,000 and the need for a full-time position to handle correspondence related to the bill. The bill involves mailing information to individuals who have voted using an out-of-state driver's license and have not obtained a New Hampshire license within 90 days. They highlighted the manual process required for matching and vetting responses due to potential inexact matches in records. They also discussed the challenges of tracking individuals who have been in the state for over 60 days without getting a license, especially if they do not engage in activities like registering a vehicle or getting a ticket.
HB133: Representative Hacken Phillips Information Only00:33:46.919 - 10:02:47 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips raised concerns about the potential requirement for voters to purchase a driver's license, even if they do not drive, as an obligation tied to voting. They questioned whether this could be considered a reverse poll tax and expressed concerns about its constitutionality.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:28:57.720 - 9:57:58 AM; Representative Papovich inquired about the possibility of the position needed for the bill being part-time or temporary. They also asked about other interactions besides voting, such as registering a vehicle or getting a ticket, that could trigger the 60-day clock for obtaining a New Hampshire license. They expressed concerns about privacy violations and the effort required to enforce the bill.
HB133: Representative Murray Information Only00:48:32.559 - 10:17:33 AM; Representative Murray expressed doubts about the necessity of the bill, suggesting it might not address a significant problem and could impose additional costs on the state. They proposed an 'inexpedient to legislate' (ITL) motion due to concerns over the budget and the undefined scope of the bill's impact.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:55:46.520 - 10:24:47 AM; Representative Papovich made a motion to retain HB 133, suggesting that the committee might want to revisit the bill later in the legislative process. They highlighted the need for further consideration of the bill's implications and potential amendments.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:55:46.520 - 10:24:47 AM; Representative Papovich concludes his remarks at 00:55:46.520, indicating the end of his previous discussion on the budget.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:28:57.720 - 9:57:58 AM; An unidentified speaker begins discussing interactions other than voting that could indicate a change in residency, such as registering a vehicle or receiving a ticket. They question the effectiveness of using an out-of-state license as a trigger for starting a 60-day clock for residency. The speaker expresses uncertainty about how traffic tickets fit into this process, suggesting that further clarification is needed on this aspect of the law.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:29:43.440 - 9:58:44 AM; Another unidentified speaker responds to the question about interactions that could start the 60-day residency clock. They explain that law enforcement interactions where an individual presents an out-of-state license are key, and the response to questions about residency length triggers the clock. They mention scenarios where neighbors might report someone's long-term presence with an out-of-state license, leading to an investigation. The speaker highlights the gray area in enforcing the 60-day rule and notes that the bill clarifies that presenting an out-of-state ID at voting starts the clock.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:31:17.360 - 10:00:18 AM; The speaker follows up by suggesting that lease contracts could be another indicator of residency but expresses opposition to using them for enforcement due to privacy concerns. They believe the effort and privacy violations would not be worth the benefits.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:32:02.399 - 10:01:03 AM; The speaker from the DMV explains the difference in their role regarding residency and licensing. They communicate regularly with residents about license renewals and other matters but do not proactively reach out to enforce residency requirements. They express concern that the proposed bill might extend beyond their scope by requiring them to notify individuals about license status based on voting records.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:32:47.799 - 10:01:48 AM; In response to a question about the necessity of a New Hampshire driver's license, the speaker explains that it is required by statute after 60 days of residency. They mention exceptions for visitors and certain visa holders but cannot provide the origin of the 60-day rule.
HB133: Representative Hacken Phillips Oppose00:33:46.919 - 10:02:47 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips raises concerns about the proposed law linking voting rights to the requirement of obtaining a driver's license, which they see as potentially unconstitutional. They are uncomfortable with the idea of tying a fiscal obligation to voting and believe it resembles a reverse poll tax.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:35:23.280 - 10:04:24 AM; The speaker clarifies that driver's licenses are not mandatory but are one form of ID. They explain that the DMV issues non-driver ID cards for a fee and a free voter identification card for those without a license or ID. They confirm that the bill does not provide an exemption for voter ID cards.
HB133: Representative Kelly Information Only00:36:09.880 - 10:05:10 AM; Representative Kelly asks about the possibility of voter ID cards being an exemption to the rule, to which the speaker responds that they are not. They further explain that voter ID cards are issued to those who cannot obtain a license and typically used by residents in long-term care facilities.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:36:55.040 - 10:05:56 AM; The speaker discusses the appropriateness of the Department of Safety's role in following up on residency status after voting. They believe this responsibility should lie with the Secretary of State's office, as it involves voting records and not licensing.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:38:29.480 - 10:07:30 AM; The speaker elaborates on the current process for enforcing the 60-day residency rule, which involves law enforcement actions rather than proactive outreach by the DMV. They mention that vehicle registration renewals may require a New Hampshire license, but this is handled by town clerks, not the DMV.
HB133: Representative Murray Oppose00:45:24.800 - 10:14:25 AM; Representative Murray expresses opposition to the bill, arguing that it involves the government acting as a 'neighborhood Busy Body' and that it does not fit within the Department of Safety's purview. They suggest an 'inexpedient to legislate' (ITL) motion on the bill.
HB133: Representative Hacken Phillips Oppose00:46:14.680 - 10:15:15 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips questions the need for elderly individuals moving to New Hampshire for retirement to obtain a driver's license if they do not intend to drive. They highlight the potential fiscal burden on these individuals and express concerns about the bill's details and unfunded positions.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:49:17.680 - 10:18:18 AM; The speaker clarifies that the current law requiring a license within 60 days of establishing residency is not actively enforced by the DMV. They mention that enforcement typically occurs through law enforcement interactions or during vehicle registration renewals at the town level.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:52:24.160 - 10:21:25 AM; The speaker reiterates that the DMV does not track the 60-day residency rule proactively but defers to law enforcement for enforcement actions. They acknowledge the gray area in the law and suggest that legislative clarification would be beneficial.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:56:30.280 - 10:25:31 AM; Representative Papovich moves to retain HB 133, suggesting further work is needed on the bill. The motion to retain passes with a vote of 4 to 0.
HB133: Mr. Landan from the LBA Information Only02:34:03.479 - 12:03:04 PM; Mr. Landan from the Legislative Budget Assistant's office begins a presentation on the budget process and the documents provided. He discusses the process for reviewing the governor's recommended budget, the trailer bill, and the importance of understanding the funding sources and potential changes.
HB133: Representative Earth Information Only02:37:10.200 - 12:06:11 PM; Representative Earth discusses the approach to reviewing the budget, suggesting a return to going line by line through the budget documents. They believe this method is more thorough and professional.
HB133: Representative Kelly Information Only02:38:42.560 - 12:07:43 PM; Representative Kelly supports the idea of reviewing the budget line by line, as it is how they approach it at home. They express a desire for a more detailed review process.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:41:05.600 - 12:10:06 PM; The speaker explains the differences in funding sources in the budget, highlighting federal funds and the need to focus on general fund, highway fund, and education trust fund accounts during the review process.
HB133: Representative Murray Information Only02:42:38.600 - 12:11:39 PM; Representative Murray discusses the confusion around funds being moved between accounts and the need for clarity in understanding these changes. They express concern about the budget's impact on the education trust fund and the potential for the full committee to alter the division's recommendations.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:48:05.200 - 12:17:06 PM; The speaker clarifies the role of the Department of Safety in managing cost of collections for the highway fund and the impact of changes to these costs on the fund's bottom line. They provide a breakdown of the budget and the agencies' roles.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:48:05.200 - 12:17:06 PM; The unidentified speaker concluded their discussion on HB 133 at the timestamp 02:48:05.200, indicating the end of their testimony in the previous part of the meeting.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:33:46.919 - 10:02:47 AM; The speaker expressed concerns about the proposed law requiring voters to purchase a driver's license as an obligation tied to voting, suggesting it might be a reverse poll tax and raising constitutional issues. They questioned whether this is akin to charging New Hampshire citizens for something they may not need or use, correlating it with their right to vote.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:35:23.280 - 10:04:24 AM; Representative Papovich clarified that voters are not required to have a driver's license to vote, but a form of ID is needed. They explained that the DMV issues non-driver ID cards for a $10 fee, and there's a free voter identification card available through town clerks for those without a license or ID card in the state.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:36:09.880 - 10:05:10 AM; The speaker followed up on the voter ID cards, asking if they would be exempt from the proposed rule. Representative Papovich responded that the voter ID card is for those who cannot obtain a license, typically used by individuals in nursing homes who have lost their original documents.
HB133: Representative Kelly Information Only00:36:55.040 - 10:05:56 AM; Representative Kelly inquired whether the voter ID card includes a photo, to which it was confirmed that it does, along with the person's name, address, and date of birth.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:37:42.760 - 10:06:43 AM; The speaker questioned which department should follow up on voter status 90 days after voting, with the response indicating that this responsibility might reside with the Secretary of State's office rather than the DMV.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:38:29.480 - 10:07:30 AM; The speaker expressed confusion about why the Department of Safety wouldn't naturally follow up on driver's license requirements, to which it was clarified that the DMV's role is to issue credentials, not investigate voter status.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:39:15.800 - 10:08:16 AM; The speaker discussed the DMV's role and how it should not be involved in investigating voter fraud, which is handled by the Attorney General's office. They emphasized that the DMV should not be responsible for following up on individuals' status post-voting.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:40:02.520 - 10:09:03 AM; The speaker continued to argue that the DMV should not act as a middleman in sending correspondence or investigating voting-related issues, as it falls outside their scope of issuing licenses and titles.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:40:47.720 - 10:09:48 AM; The speaker further clarified that the DMV does not engage in investigative work related to voting, emphasizing that their role is limited to issuing licenses and not following up on voting status.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:41:34.520 - 10:10:35 AM; The speaker discussed the scope of the original law regarding vehicle registration and driver's licenses, noting that the DMV's role in sending letters about license requirements is within their scope, but not related to voting.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:42:21.200 - 10:11:22 AM; The speaker clarified that the DMV does not investigate residency status based on neighbor reports, which is handled by the state police. They emphasized that the DMV's role is limited to issuing credentials.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:43:07.240 - 10:12:08 AM; Representative Papovich clarified that sending a letter from the DMV regarding license requirements is not cumbersome, but suggested that such letters should come from the Secretary of State's office to avoid confusion about the DMV's role in voting matters.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:43:53.440 - 10:12:54 AM; The speaker expressed concerns about the DMV sending letters related to voting, suggesting it might confuse citizens about the DMV's involvement in voting records. They advocated for the Secretary of State's office to send such letters.
HB133: Representative Murray Oppose00:45:24.800 - 10:14:25 AM; Representative Murray opposed the bill, arguing that it's not within the Department of Safety's purview to track voting-related issues. They suggested that the Secretary of State should handle such matters and proposed an 'inexpedient to legislate' (ITL) motion on the bill.
HB133: Representative Hacken Phillips Oppose00:46:14.680 - 10:15:15 AM; Representative Hacken Phillips opposed the bill, highlighting concerns about elderly individuals moving to New Hampshire for retirement and not needing a driver's license. They questioned the fiscal obligation placed on these individuals and criticized the bill for not being fully thought through.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:49:17.680 - 10:18:18 AM; The speaker clarified that current law regarding non-residents establishing residency does not involve proactive follow-up by the DMV. They explained that enforcement actions related to out-of-state licenses are typically handled by law enforcement.
HB133: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:50:04.680 - 10:19:05 AM; The speaker discussed the process of enforcing the 60-day residency rule, noting that the DMV defers to law enforcement for such matters. They mentioned the gray area in enforcement and the possibility of legislative clarification.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:55:46.520 - 10:24:47 AM; Representative Papovich moved to retain HB 133, suggesting further consideration and potential work on the bill. The motion to retain was seconded and passed with a vote of 4 to 0.
HB133: Representative Papovich Information Only00:56:30.280 - 10:25:31 AM; Representative Papovich made a motion to retain HB 133. The motion passed with a vote of 4 to 0.
HB133: Mr. Landan from the LBA Information Only02:34:03.479 - 12:03:04 PM; Mr. Landan provided an overview of the budget process and document distribution. He highlighted the availability of the governor's recommended budget, the executive summary, and the trailer bill document. He also mentioned a packet of papers summarizing total appropriations by source of funds for each agency in division 2, as well as statements for the education trust fund, highway fund, and fish and game fund.
HB133: Representative Earth Information Only02:37:10.200 - 12:06:11 PM; Representative Earth discussed the process for reviewing agency budgets, suggesting a page-by-page review which was agreed upon by the committee. This approach would involve agencies being prepared to start on page one of their budget and flip through, focusing on general, highway, and education trust fund accounts.
HB133: Representative Kelly Information Only02:38:42.560 - 12:07:43 PM; Representative Kelly expressed support for the line-by-line budget review approach and reminisced about past practices. He also requested sample pages to better understand how to navigate through the budget documents efficiently.
HB133: Representative Murray Information Only02:42:38.600 - 12:11:39 PM; Representative Murray raised concerns about understanding fund movements within the budget, particularly when accounts show zeros or shifts in funding. He requested clarification on these movements and expressed confusion about aggregate sections at the end of each area.
HB133: Representative Dy Information Only02:47:19.600 - 12:16:20 PM; Representative Dy discussed the importance of understanding position counts within the budget, noting that the counts include both funded and unfunded positions. He also expressed concern about the potential impact of unfunded positions on agency operations.
HB133: Representative Hack and Phillips Information Only02:57:19.840 - 12:26:20 PM; Representative Hack and Phillips discussed the possibility of holding a separate public hearing on the video lottery terminal revenue proposal, expressing concerns about the policy change's significance and the need for public input. They also discussed the timeline for House Bill 728 and its potential impact on House Bill 2.