Committee Summary for House Finance Division I (03/24/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
HB733 00:01:38.600 - 8:00:24 AM	Public Hearing	relative to reporting requirements for persons or entities financing lawsuits.	Cole, Brian(R)[B-]2024
HB733 00:03:29.599 - 8:02:15 AM	Executive Session	relative to reporting requirements for persons or entities financing lawsuits.	Cole, Brian(R)[B-]2024
HB219 00:06:10.000 - 8:04:56 AM	Public Hearing	(New Title) relative to changes to the minimum electric renewable portfolio standards.	Harrington, Michael(R)[A]2024
HB365 00:15:29.160 - 8:14:15 AM	Public Hearing	relative to proof of United States citizenship for indigent voters.	Lynn, Bob(R)[A]2024
HB552 00:30:36.000 - 8:29:22 AM	Public Hearing	relative to coverage of children under the state retiree insurance plan.	Newsom, James(D)
HB572 00:34:21.520 - 8:33:07 AM	Public Hearing	(New Title) establishing the "partners in housing" program, an initiative under the housing champions fund to assist municipalities, counties, and developers in building workforce housing, and making an appropriation therefor.	Stavis, Laurel(D)[CT]2024
HB365 00:54:54.760 - 8:53:40 AM	Public Hearing	relative to proof of United States citizenship for indigent voters.	Lynn, Bob(R)[A]2024
HB639 01:12:45.440 - 9:11:31 AM	Public Hearing	relative to the use of and disputes over blockchain and digital currencies.	Ammon, Keith(R)[A+]2024
HB611 01:57:20.760 - 9:56:06 AM	Public Hearing	(New Title) relative to repayment regarding appointed counsel for indigent criminal defendants.	Scherr, Buzz(D)
HB611 01:57:20.760 - 9:56:06 AM	Executive Session	(New Title) relative to repayment regarding appointed counsel for indigent criminal defendants.	Scherr, Buzz(D)
Unclear 02:03:25.840 - 10:02:11 AM	General Working Session	Unclear
HB1 2025-1292H 02:29:45.600 - 10:28:31 AM	General Working Session	making appropriations for the expenses of certain departments of the state for fiscal years ending June 30, 2026 and June 30, 2027.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB504 02:54:20.920 - 10:53:06 AM	General Working Session	relative to the state energy policy.	Vose, Michael(R)[A]2024
HB2 2025-1287H 04:36:46.400 - 12:35:32 PM	General Working Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 2025-1313H 04:40:30.560 - 12:39:16 PM	General Working Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB707 1231H 04:55:20.080 - 12:54:06 PM	Public Hearing	(New Title) requiring the department of environmental services to revise the rules for proposed new landfills.	Potenza, Kelley(R)[A]2024
HB2 1231H 05:20:53.360 - 1:19:39 PM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB1 05:25:06.210 - 1:23:52 PM	Executive Session	making appropriations for the expenses of certain departments of the state for fiscal years ending June 30, 2026 and June 30, 2027.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB639 05:33:22.160 - 1:32:08 PM	Executive Session	relative to the use of and disputes over blockchain and digital currencies.	Ammon, Keith(R)[A+]2024
HB2 1312 05:38:30.878 - 1:37:16 PM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB1 1242H 05:40:39.440 - 1:39:25 PM	Executive Session	making appropriations for the expenses of certain departments of the state for fiscal years ending June 30, 2026 and June 30, 2027.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB1 05:43:23.120 - 1:42:09 PM	Executive Session	making appropriations for the expenses of certain departments of the state for fiscal years ending June 30, 2026 and June 30, 2027.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
HB2 06:27:16.798 - 2:26:02 PM	Executive Session	relative to state fees, funds, revenues, and expenditures.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024
Unclear 07:30:55.600 - 3:29:41 PM	Executive Session	Unclear
Unclear 07:31:43.200 - 3:30:29 PM	Executive Session	Unclear
Unclear 07:37:46.478 - 3:36:32 PM	Executive Session	Unclear
Unclear 07:38:41.958 - 3:37:27 PM	Executive Session	Unclear
Unclear 07:44:50.250 - 3:43:36 PM	Executive Session	Unclear
Unclear 07:46:18.798 - 3:45:04 PM	Executive Session	Unclear
HB1 07:46:18.798 - 3:45:04 PM	Executive Session	making appropriations for the expenses of certain departments of the state for fiscal years ending June 30, 2026 and June 30, 2027.	Weyler, Kenneth(R)[B+]2024

HB733: State Representative Brian Cole, Manchester Support00:01:38.600 - 8:00:24 AM; Representative Cole introduced House Bill 733, which addresses third party litigation financing (TPLF). He explained that the bill aims to shift the reporting of TPLF from the Secretary of State's office to the courts, eliminating the need for a fiscal note. He mentioned that this change would help in managing insurance underwriting risks, potentially leading to reduced premiums, as the courts already handle similar reporting under rule five.
HB733: Committee Vote00:03:29.599 - 8:02:15 AM; The committee discussed and voted on House Bill 733. The bill was on the consent calendar with no fiscal impact. Representative Eel moved for an 'ought to pass' recommendation, which was seconded by Representative Sweeney. The vote was unanimous with 8 votes in favor and none against.
HB219: Representative Michael Bose, District 5, Rockingham County, Epping Support00:06:10.000 - 8:04:56 AM; Representative Bose discussed House Bill 219, which aims to lower the renewable portfolio standard (RPS). He described the RPS as a tax on electricity that utilities pass on to consumers. He argued that reducing the RPS obligation would effectively decrease electricity rates, similar to a tax decrease. He also mentioned having calculations on how the bill might affect the renewable energy fund, noting that the current RPS requires utilities to buy 220,000 renewable energy certificates annually at $25 each, totaling $5.5 million per year, which the bill proposes to reduce.
HB219: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:08:07.319 - 8:06:53 AM; The speaker discussed the financial implications of the bill on the renewable energy fund, stating that the obligation to buy class one thermal RECs is currently set at 220,000, but historically, only 50 to 70,000 RECs are sold annually. This discrepancy leads utilities to pay alternative compliance payments (ACPs) which fund the renewable energy fund. The bill would reduce the obligation to buy RECs, thereby decreasing the ACPs paid into the fund by an estimated $1 to $2 million, depending on REC prices.
HB219: Representative Campbell Information Only00:09:44.800 - 8:08:30 AM; Representative Campbell asked about the percentage reduction in the renewable energy fund if the bill passes. The response indicated that the obligation to buy class one thermal RECs would decrease from 2.2% to 1.7%, a reduction of 0.5%.
HB219: Representative R Information Only00:10:35.279 - 8:09:21 AM; Representative R inquired about the potential savings for consumers if the bill passes. The answer was that the savings would be minimal, described as 'pennies a month'.
HB219: Representative Evil Information Only00:11:21.120 - 8:10:07 AM; Representative Evil questioned the necessity of the bill given the upcoming DOE report on RPS due on November 1st, 2025. The response was that the legislature can change public policy independently of the DOE's report, emphasizing the legislature's role in setting public policy.
HB219: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:12:40.839 - 8:11:26 AM; The speaker discussed the relationship between this bill and House Bill 224, clarifying that they are not companion bills but both affect the renewable energy fund. There was a suggestion to include this bill in House Bill Two with an effective date of July 1st, 2027, to align with the other bill's timeline.
HB219: Representative Sweeney Vote00:13:57.120 - 8:12:43 AM; Representative Sweeney moved to retain House Bill 219, which was seconded by Representative Griffin. The motion to retain passed with a vote of 5 to 4.
HB365: Representative Lynn Support00:15:29.160 - 8:14:15 AM; Representative Lynn introduced HB365, which aims to address issues related to voter registration under House Bill 1569. The bill allows the Secretary of State to access national and state databases to verify citizenship when a person lacks traditional documentation like a birth certificate or passport. The second part of the bill proposes a voucher program for those unable to afford the cost of obtaining a birth certificate, with an appropriation of $25,000. Representative Lynn believes the actual cost would be much lower and discussed the potential effectiveness of the bill in making voter registration easier.
HB365: Representative R Information Only00:21:05.280 - 8:19:51 AM; Representative R asked about the problem the bill aims to solve, specifically regarding non-citizens attempting to vote. Representative Lynn explained that the bill addresses objections to House Bill 1569, particularly the difficulty and cost of obtaining proof of citizenship, by offering two solutions: database verification and a voucher program.
HB365: Representative Vivo Information Only00:27:37.600 - 8:26:23 AM; Representative Vivo supported retaining the bill for further discussion, citing the need for input from the Secretary of State and the financial implications of the bill. There was a suggestion to hold the bill until the Secretary of State could provide clarification.
HB552: Cassie Keane, Deputy Commissioner of DAS Support00:30:36.000 - 8:29:22 AM; Cassie Keane introduced the bill, explaining that it aligns the retiree health benefit program with the Affordable Care Act by allowing dependents to be covered up to age 26, regardless of full-time student status. The cost of covering dependents is borne entirely by the retiree, approximately $1,000 per month.
HB552: Joyce Pitman, Director of Risk and Benefits Support00:31:39.440 - 8:30:25 AM; Joyce Pitman further explained the bill, confirming that the state only covers the retiree and spouse, while dependents are covered at the retiree's expense. The bill was described as straightforward and necessary to comply with federal law.
HB552: Representative R Vote00:32:59.919 - 8:31:45 AM; Representative R moved to pass HB552, which was seconded by Representative Campbell. The motion passed unanimously with a vote of 9 to 0.
HB572: Representative Stavis Support00:34:21.520 - 8:33:07 AM; Representative Stavis introduced HB572, aimed at addressing the housing crisis by promoting the development of 'missing middle' homes. The bill proposes a statewide database of suitable municipally and county-owned land, a low-interest loan program through the BEA (though the appropriation for this was removed), and expedited planning board reviews. The bill is voluntary for communities and based on a successful program in Lebanon. The current request is for $150,000 to build the database.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:37:54.079 - 8:36:40 AM; The speaker inquired about the average price of houses in the award-winning program, which was stated to be around $275,000 to $300,000. They questioned the benefits of a community selling land to a developer under normal processes, noting that such projects do not pencil out due to high construction, planning board review, and land costs. The bill aims to shorten planning board review time and provide low-interest loans to help projects become feasible.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:39:00.800 - 8:37:46 AM; The speaker discussed the Housing Champions Program, mentioning that Lebanon received funding from it and was recognized as a housing champion. They also mentioned that the program's funding might lapse at the end of the year.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:40:12.480 - 8:38:58 AM; The speaker asked about the updated fiscal note for the bill, focusing on the development of a database. They inquired if the database could serve other purposes, such as tracking wetlands or environmentally sensitive land owned by towns.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:41:28.240 - 8:40:14 AM; The speaker discussed the potential for previously underutilized land to become revenue-producing again if the bill passes. They also questioned the breakdown of funding between general funds and the Housing Champion Fund.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:42:49.119 - 8:41:35 AM; The speaker asked about the possibility of the bill creating a program that could receive donations and grants from other entities. They also discussed the potential for the bill to be amended to access funds before they lapse.
HB572: Representative from Marramac Support00:44:05.599 - 8:42:51 AM; The representative expressed support for the bill, highlighting its potential to lower property taxes and increase affordable housing availability. They emphasized the importance of accessing funds before they lapse to make the bill effective.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:45:23.440 - 8:44:09 AM; The speaker discussed the decision to remove a large appropriation from the bill due to budget constraints and the hope that the program could still be established to attract future funding.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:46:36.319 - 8:45:22 AM; The speaker asked about the current balance in the Housing Champions Fund and the potential use of these funds for the bill's $150,000 appropriation. They noted that the funds would lapse to the general fund if not used by the end of the biennium.
HB572: Unknown Speaker Information Only00:47:49.160 - 8:46:35 AM; The speaker discussed the potential to move the bill's provisions into HB2 without the $150,000 appropriation, suggesting that if funds are available, they could be used.
HB572: Representative Sweeney from Salem Support00:48:50.480 - 8:47:36 AM; Representative Sweeney expressed support for the Housing Champions Program and mentioned that Salem became a housing champion. They discussed budget constraints and moved to retain the bill for potential future funding.
HB572: Representative Munz Support00:50:03.119 - 8:48:49 AM; Representative Munz supported the bill, emphasizing the need for substantial action on housing. They argued for finding $150,000 in the state budget to address the housing crisis.
HB572: Representative Griffin Support00:50:44.800 - 8:49:30 AM; Representative Griffin supported the idea of removing Section 7 from the bill and integrating the rest into HB2, suggesting this as a way to move forward while retaining the bill.
HB572: Representative Sweeney from Salem Support00:51:47.599 - 8:50:33 AM; Representative Sweeney reiterated support for the program and discussed other legislative efforts to address the housing crisis, such as HB 631 and SB4. They emphasized the need for market solutions and less government regulation.
HB572: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:52:14.000 - 8:51:00 AM; The speaker discussed the efforts being made to address the housing crisis in New Hampshire, emphasizing that multiple actions are being taken at both state and local levels on a bipartisan basis. They noted that while the bill in question is not a complete solution, it could contribute to the efforts. The speaker also addressed a question about the use of $150,000 from the housing fund to create a database, clarifying that the plan is to secure those funds before July 1st.
HB572: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:53:25.839 - 8:52:11 AM; The speaker clarified that removing section seven from the bill would allow the use of money already in the housing fund without appropriating additional funds. They confirmed a motion to retain the bill and discussed changing the effective date to June 30th to avoid increasing the budget, and removing section seven.
HB365: Secretary of State Support00:54:54.760 - 8:53:40 AM; The Secretary of State expressed support for HB365, which aims to help voters obtain necessary documentation for voter registration. They discussed the challenges voters face in proving identity, age, citizenship, and domicile, particularly with citizenship documentation. The Secretary mentioned the limited resources available to assist voters, including access to birth information through the Division of Vital Records and potential collaboration with other states and federal agencies. They highlighted the fiscal note's discrepancy with the bill's appropriation, explaining that the level of service provided would depend on the funding received. The Secretary also addressed questions about the timeline for implementing the program before the 2026 general election and the process of verifying voter IDs at polling places.
HB365: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:09:33.359 - 9:08:19 AM; The speaker discussed a program where individuals without government-issued IDs can obtain a voucher from the clerk to get an ID for voting purposes at any DMV office. They noted that this program is still in place but is rarely used.
HB365: Representative Campbell Support01:09:33.359 - 9:08:19 AM; Representative Campbell expressed support for the bill but suggested retaining it due to the current fiscal situation, with a plan to reevaluate it in a couple of months.
HB639: Keith Ammon, Hillsboro District 42, New Hampshire Blockchain Council Support01:12:45.440 - 9:11:31 AM; Keith Ammon, representing Hillsboro District 42 and the New Hampshire Blockchain Council, supported the bill. He discussed the purpose of the bill to fill gaps in blockchain technology legislation, noting that other states are ahead. He mentioned his involvement in the 2022 governor's commission on digital assets and the establishment of a blockchain dispute docket. Ammon addressed misconceptions about digital asset mining's environmental impact, explaining its potential to support renewable energy. He also discussed the fiscal note, clarifying that mining and staking are not considered securities, and the need for judicial expertise in blockchain disputes. He explained the bill's provisions to prevent discriminatory zoning regulations against digital asset mining.
HB639: Representative Leeman Information Only01:22:24.800 - 9:21:10 AM; Representative Leeman inquired about the fiscal impact of the bill, specifically the cost of establishing a blockchain dispute docket. He questioned whether a dedicated judge would be necessary and was informed that initially, it would not be a full-time position but would require judicial expertise.
HB639: Representative Muns Information Only01:23:26.560 - 9:22:12 AM; Representative Muns admitted to struggling to understand blockchain technology and asked about its applications in New Hampshire. Keith Ammon explained that blockchain could be applied across various industries including finance, supply chain management, identity management, voting, and property records. He also addressed concerns about the energy consumption of blockchain and cryptocurrency, suggesting that small modular nuclear reactors could be a solution and that the market would drive the use of clean energy.
HB639: Representative Evil Information Only01:31:30.719 - 9:30:16 AM; Representative Evil expressed concern about the fiscal note's mention of the Bureau of Securities Regulation losing authority over digital asset mining and staking services. Keith Ammon responded that mining and staking are not considered securities and suggested potential minor improvements to the bill.
HB639: Eric Forier, Director of the New Hampshire Bureau of Securities Regulation Oppose01:31:56.800 - 9:30:42 AM; Eric Forier, Director of the New Hampshire Bureau of Securities Regulation, opposed a section of the bill that would limit the bureau's authority to regulate digital asset mining or staking services as securities. He explained that passive investment in mining ventures could be considered a security and shared an example of a New Hampshire resident who lost money in such a venture. Forier emphasized the bureau's role in consumer protection and expressed willingness to continue working with Representative Ammon on the issue.
HB639: Eric Forier, Director of the New Hampshire Bureau of Securities Regulation Information Only01:31:56.800 - 9:30:42 AM; Eric Forier concluded his testimony agreeing that consumer protection is particularly important in the new and confusing area of investment like blockchain. He highlighted the role of his office as a consumer protection advocate.
HB639: Representative Lee Information Only01:35:19.920 - 9:34:05 AM; Representative Lee asked about the registration requirements for investment firms, particularly those related to blockchain. Eric Forier explained that various offerings in New Hampshire must be registered or exempt, and a recent legislative exemption for cryptocurrency offerings with a consumptive purpose was mentioned, though a filing would still be required.
HB639: Eric Forier, Director of the New Hampshire Bureau of Securities Regulation Information Only01:36:26.960 - 9:35:12 AM; Eric Forier further elaborated on the different ways securities can be offered in New Hampshire, some requiring full registration, others being exempt or self-executing. He emphasized the importance of the Securities Bureau in ensuring a fair playing field, especially since investors often have less information than the offerers.
HB639: Unidentified Representative Oppose01:38:19.199 - 9:37:05 AM; An unidentified representative expressed skepticism about the role of the Securities Bureau in protecting investors from their own decisions, advocating for a 'buyer beware' approach. Eric Forier responded by explaining the necessity of regulation in the securities market to protect investors, especially when their retirement savings are at stake.
HB639: Unidentified Representative Oppose01:39:34.320 - 9:38:20 AM; Another unidentified representative, who used to practice securities law, expressed strong support for the role of securities laws in protecting investors and raised concerns about the exclusion of certain blockchain investments from these regulations. They indicated difficulty in supporting the bill without amendments to address these concerns.
HB639: Representative Ammon Information Only01:40:25.119 - 9:39:11 AM; Representative Ammon clarified that mining and staking themselves are not securities but noted that related contracts might fall under securities regulations. He suggested that the committee might consider passing the bill with amendments to address concerns about the exclusion of certain blockchain investments from securities laws.
HB639: Eric Forier, Director of the New Hampshire Bureau of Securities Regulation Information Only01:42:21.040 - 9:41:07 AM; Eric Forier agreed to work with Representative Ammon to refine the language of the bill, acknowledging the complexity and the time constraints. They agreed to provide updated language before the end of the day.
HB639: Katherine Corkery, New Hampshire Sierra Club Oppose01:42:54.320 - 9:41:40 AM; Katherine Corkery from the New Hampshire Sierra Club expressed concerns about the bill's implications, citing confusion over its fiscal note, exemptions from securities and money transfer licensing, and its impact on zoning, energy, and judiciary issues. She highlighted experiences in other states where similar bills did not meet expectations and pointed out the aggressive language in the bill that could hinder community negotiations with businesses.
HB639: Unknown Speaker Oppose01:46:53.679 - 9:45:39 AM; The speaker expressed opposition to the bill, arguing that it could prohibit businesses and infringe on town sovereignty. They highlighted that the bill does not connect to clean energy and raised concerns about the electronic and municipal waste issues associated with the cryptocurrency mining industry. They mentioned that the industry's competitive nature leads to frequent hardware upgrades, exacerbating waste problems. The speaker also noted unfulfilled job creation promises and provided reading material for the committee, suggesting that the bill should be further discussed in the Senate if it passes the House.
HB639: Representative Muns Oppose01:50:29.040 - 9:49:15 AM; Representative Muns thanked the previous speaker for raising concerns about local control and echoed worries about the experiences of other places with cryptocurrency mining. They cited examples from Tonawanda, New York, and rural Georgia, where crypto mining has led to pollution and resource strain. Muns argued that the bill's restrictions on local regulations go against the New Hampshire way of local governance.
HB639: Planning Board Member Information Only01:51:43.520 - 9:50:29 AM; The speaker, a former planning board member, drew an analogy between the bill and existing laws that prevent planning boards from regulating firearms businesses. They discussed a case where a home business selling firearms accessories was allowed despite neighbor objections, emphasizing that the bill similarly limits local control over businesses based on their nature rather than their impact.
HB639: Representative R Information Only01:53:40.719 - 9:52:26 AM; Representative R expressed concern that the Bureau of Securities Regulation and the Sierra Club did not testify in the commerce committee, questioning the thoroughness of the bill's vetting. They suggested the possibility of retaining the bill or recommitting it to the municipal and county committee for further review due to the issues raised by the Sierra Club.
HB639: Representative Sweeney Information Only01:54:57.920 - 9:53:43 AM; Representative Sweeney suggested waiting for the Secretary of State's office and the bill's sponsor to return with revised language before making a decision. They proposed that if questions remain after the new language is presented, the committee could then decide to retain or pass the bill.
HB639: Representative Eel Information Only01:55:58.880 - 9:54:44 AM; Representative Eel mentioned a study commission, HB 310, that was looking into cryptocurrency issues. They suggested reviewing the status of this commission's work before proceeding with the bill, indicating a need for more information before making a decision.
HB611: Commissioner Arling Information Only01:57:20.760 - 9:56:06 AM; Commissioner Arling discussed the implications of HB611, which initially aimed to repeal the Office of Cost Containment. An amendment proposed by Representatives Lynn and Maguire would restore the office to its previous state, requiring hiring more staff. Arling explained that revenue would increase slowly as staff and collections ramped up, potentially leading to budget deficits in the short term. They noted that the current fiscal note reflects these potential negatives for the upcoming budget years.
HB611: Commissioner Arling Information Only01:57:20.760 - 9:56:06 AM; Commissioner Arling discussed the implications of the budget and the elimination of an office due to the anticipated passage of the bill. They noted that the budget did not include provisions for the office because it was expected that the bill would pass, and suggested that language should be added to House Bill 2 to temporarily achieve what the bill would have accomplished, or else more funding would be needed to continue paying staff.
HB611: Unidentified Speaker Vote02:00:39.360 - 9:59:25 AM; The speaker proposed to retain House Bill 611 and move to include its original content back into House Bill 2. A vote was taken, and the motion to retain House Bill 611 passed unanimously with a vote of 9 to 0. The speaker also requested an amendment to House Bill 2 to include the original version of House Bill 611 and mentioned considering an amendment suggested by Representative Smith for operational tweaks.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:03:25.840 - 10:02:11 AM; The speaker discussed the timing of the session and decided to recess until 11:15 AM.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:24:07.479 - 10:22:53 AM; The speaker noted that they were missing a person from Division 2 and suggested moving on to discuss the state library and arts council.
Unclear: Representative Sweeney Information Only02:25:36.439 - 10:24:22 AM; Representative Sweeney discussed an amendment that would repeal and defund the state division of arts and the state library to zero. He mentioned that the state library building could be better utilized for executive or legislative office space, given its underutilization and the significant federal funds associated with it that would be lost. He also referenced historical considerations of repurposing the building and highlighted the need for budget cuts to balance the state's books, especially in light of the cuts needed in other areas like health.
Unclear: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:28:53.240 - 10:27:39 AM; The speaker confirmed the financial implications of the amendment, noting a reduction of approximately 1.7 million for the division of arts and 4.5 million for the library, totaling over six million in general funds. They also inquired if Representative Sweeney had discussed the abolishment of services with the state librarian or any relevant parties.
HB1 2025-1292H: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:29:45.600 - 10:28:31 AM; The speaker addressed the situation of the state librarian, noting that there is currently an acting state librarian due to the retirement of the previous librarian in August 2024, and no new librarian has been confirmed. They discussed the functions of the state library, which primarily involve collecting town and city municipal reports, a task also performed by the UNH Diamond Library. They suggested that the state library's record-keeping functions could be transferred to the Secretary of State's office for vital records. The speaker also mentioned the impact on local libraries, specifically referencing the Marramac Public Library's use of the state library's interlibrary loan program, which is federally funded but being zeroed out.
HB1 2025-1292H: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:30:45.840 - 10:29:31 AM; The speaker continued discussing the interlibrary loan program, explaining that it is federally funded and managed by the state library, but the federal funding is being discontinued. They proposed that future interlibrary loans could be managed through a bulk USPS permit, suggesting that this could be a more cost-effective solution. The speaker also touched on the potential reutilization of the state library building, referencing a historical proposal by Ray Buckley to use it for legislative office space.
HB1 2025-1292H: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:33:44.080 - 10:32:30 AM; The speaker responded to a question about the state library's role in supporting persons with disabilities, stating that this service would no longer be available if the state library were to be closed. They also mentioned the broader historical value of the state library, emphasizing its importance as a repository of old documents and its significance as one of the oldest libraries in the country.
HB1 2025-1292H: Representative Griffin Oppose02:36:55.640 - 10:35:41 AM; Representative Griffin opposed the elimination of the state library, highlighting its role beyond just holding town reports. They mentioned their personal experience using the library for research and stressed its importance as a historical resource. They suggested delaying the decision to close the library, arguing for its preservation due to its value and history.
HB1 2025-1292H: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:38:51.560 - 10:37:37 AM; The speaker discussed the division of arts funding, clarifying that it is state-funded with a federal arts partnership grant also at risk. They justified the proposed cut to arts funding as a necessary measure to fund other budget priorities, particularly the group two retirement fix. They also addressed concerns about the potential loss of federal funding for the arts, suggesting a provision similar to the state library's could be implemented if federal funds become available.
HB1 2025-1292H: Unidentified Speaker Oppose02:43:51.200 - 10:42:37 AM; The speaker expressed strong opposition to the proposed cuts to the state library and arts, attributing the budget crisis to previous tax reductions. They argued that these cuts would have a detrimental impact on the state's cultural and economic drivers, emphasizing the importance of these programs to the community.
HB1 2025-1292H: Representative Sweeney Support02:45:08.640 - 10:43:54 AM; Representative Sweeney defended the tax reductions, arguing that they have led to increased economic growth and tax revenues. They suggested that the budget crisis was due to factors beyond tax cuts and mentioned efforts to find new revenue sources. They also justified the cuts to the arts and state library as necessary to address the current budget situation, with the possibility of reinstating them in future budgets.
HB1 2025-1292H: Unidentified Speaker Information Only02:47:49.120 - 10:46:35 AM; The speaker discussed the proposed sale of welcome centers, noting that the Department of Transportation would work with local nonprofits or chambers to maintain them until sold. They clarified that the operating costs for the welcome centers would be zeroed out by July 1st, 2026, and any revenue from sales would go to the highway fund.
HB1 2025-1292H: Representative R Oppose02:49:07.359 - 10:47:53 AM; Representative R opposed the sale of welcome centers without a full appraisal and property list, arguing that it was fiscally irresponsible to proceed without knowing the market value of the properties. They expressed concern over the legislative action to direct the sale of state property by a specific date without adequate information.
HB1 2025-1292H: Representative Sweeney Information Only02:52:32.720 - 10:51:18 AM; Representative Sweeney clarified that the sale of state property, including welcome centers, would involve the Department of Transportation working with the executive council to determine the final sale price, rather than the legislature setting the price. They emphasized the legislative role in directing the sale but not in setting the price.
HB1 2025-1292H: Representative Sweeney Information Only02:52:32.720 - 10:51:18 AM; Representative Sweeney was finishing speaking about the budget and amendment 2025-1292H to HB1.
HB504: Representative Vose Information Only02:54:20.920 - 10:53:06 AM; Representative Vose introduced HB504, which came out of the Science, Technology, and Energy Committee with a recommendation of 'ought to pass with amendment'. The bill passed on the House floor with a vote of 204 to 165.
HB504: Representative Campbell Information Only02:55:06.240 - 10:53:52 AM; Representative Campbell explained that HB504 amends the state's energy policy to include nuclear power, specifically small modular reactors, and shifts focus away from offshore wind due to concerns from the fishing industry and conservation groups about its impact on the ocean. The policy aims to meet energy needs at the lowest reasonable cost while promoting reliability and diversity of sources, with an emphasis on market-based mechanisms.
HB504: Representative Cambos Information Only02:57:27.800 - 10:56:13 AM; Representative Cambos clarified that the policy's emphasis on reliable and low-cost energy implicitly supports nuclear power over less consistent renewable sources like solar and wind. The policy also introduces market principles to enhance negotiations with the Senate.
HB504: Representative Sweeney Support02:58:50.160 - 10:57:36 AM; Representative Sweeney moved to adopt amendment 2025-1175H into the budget, which was seconded by Representative Campbell.
HB504: Representative R Oppose02:58:50.160 - 10:57:36 AM; Representative R expressed opposition to adding the amendment to HB2, arguing that it was unnecessary as it had already passed the House and was part of the House's position. He felt it was dishonest to include it in HB2 for negotiation purposes with the Senate.
HB2 2025-1287H: Representative Evil Support04:36:46.400 - 12:35:32 PM; Representative Evil introduced amendment 1287H to HB2, which would fund a $10 million settlement with Michael Gilpatrick, who suffered severe injuries at the Youth Development Center (YDC). The amendment was supported by Representative Evil, who did not specify a funding source, suggesting it be discussed by the division.
HB2 2025-1287H: Representative Campbell Support04:38:08.879 - 12:36:54 PM; Representative Campbell seconded the motion to pass amendment 1287H to HB2 for the Gilpatrick settlement.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Evil Oppose04:40:30.560 - 12:39:16 PM; Representative Evil moved amendment 1313H, which would ensure that attorney's fees and payments to claimants in settlements are made periodically over the same duration. He expressed concerns about the practicality of attorneys working under extended payment plans and stated he would vote against the amendment.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative M Information Only04:41:44.400 - 12:40:30 PM; Representative M inquired about the specifics of subparagraph 12A referenced in the amendment, which pertains to the duration of periodic payments, suggesting it might be limited to a maximum of 10 years.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Griffin Information Only04:41:44.400 - 12:40:30 PM; Representative Griffin expressed concerns about the amendment's impact on claimants' ability to secure legal representation under the proposed payment plan structure.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Run Information Only04:43:05.360 - 12:41:51 PM; Representative Run seeks clarification on whether the amendment impacts legal fees from court cases beyond those related to the settlement fund. Representative Griffin confirms that the amendment only affects the settlement fund and not court cases directly.
HB2 2025-1313H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:44:25.280 - 12:43:11 PM; The speaker discusses the flexibility needed by the administrator in determining payment schedules for claimants, noting that the statute allows up to 10 years for payments, which can be challenging without specific guidelines on attorney fees.
HB2 2025-1313H: Unnamed Speaker Vote04:45:32.080 - 12:44:18 PM; A vote is taken on the amendment, with 8 in favor and 1 opposed.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Information Only04:46:35.920 - 12:45:21 PM; The speaker introduces the idea of bonding to finance the YDC settlement fund, proposing $50 million over the biennium, split evenly between years. They mention consulting with the state treasurer who was comfortable with the amount.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Evil Support04:47:50.200 - 12:46:36 PM; Representative Evil elaborates on the bonding proposal, emphasizing the importance of funding the settlement and the treasurer's comfort with the financial plan. They mention the potential impact on future bonding opportunities if the settlement fund is not financed.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Campbell Oppose04:49:09.280 - 12:47:55 PM; Representative Campbell appreciates the effort but opposes the bonding amendment, expressing concern over its impact on the state's bond rating and suggesting a better plan is needed.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Griffin Oppose04:49:09.280 - 12:47:55 PM; Representative Griffin agrees with Representative Campbell, stating that bonding for this purpose is inappropriate.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Leechman Oppose04:50:17.600 - 12:49:03 PM; Representative Leechman opposes the amendment, citing a compromise reached to provide $5 million to the fund and monthly updates from the administrator.
HB2 2025-1313H: Unnamed Speaker Information Only04:50:17.600 - 12:49:03 PM; The speaker discusses an alternative plan to fund the settlement with $10 million per year and suggests discussing further funding options with the Senate.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative R Support04:51:30.718 - 12:50:16 PM; Representative R supports the bonding amendment, arguing that funding settlements through the fund rather than court cases could be more fiscally responsible for the state.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Evil Support04:52:42.718 - 12:51:28 PM; Representative Evil reiterates the importance of funding the settlement and the treasurer's support for the bonding proposal, emphasizing the optionality it provides.
HB2 2025-1313H: Representative Muns Information Only04:53:53.200 - 12:52:39 PM; Representative Muns argues that not bonding and using current budget funds would burden current citizens for past actions. They also express concern about recent budget cuts and suggest using any additional funds to restore those cuts.
HB2 2025-1313H: Unnamed Speaker Vote04:55:20.080 - 12:54:06 PM; A vote is taken on amendment 1282H, with 3 in favor and 6 opposed, resulting in the motion failing.
HB707 1231H: Adam Krapo, Assistant Commissioner at the Department of Environmental Services Information Only04:55:20.080 - 12:54:06 PM; Adam Krapo, along with Mike Whimset, Director of the Waste Management Division, expresses concerns about House Bill 707, particularly regarding the rules adopted in December. They believe the current rules are sufficient for protecting the environment and public health. They discuss the potential impact of the bill, including a 5-year travel time requirement for potential leaks and the need for specific soil conditions at landfill sites, which could limit viable locations for new landfills in the state.
HB707 1231H: Adam Krapo, Assistant Commissioner at the Department of Environmental Services Information Only05:01:30.000 - 1:00:16 PM; Adam Krapo provided detailed information regarding the implications of HB707 on landfill siting in New Hampshire. He explained that the bill's provision to exclude land within 1500 feet of surface water would eliminate 32% of the state from consideration for landfill sites. He highlighted the complexity of mapping viable sites due to multiple siting criteria, including the need for large parcels of land and the difficulty in calculating the five-year travel time for groundwater. Krapo also mentioned the requirement for applicants to hire a hydrogeologist to assess site suitability, indicating the challenges in determining the exact percentage of viable land left for landfill development.
HB707 1231H: Representative Kim Information Only05:02:28.240 - 1:01:14 PM; Representative Kim asked for clarification on the percentage of the state excluded by the bill's provisions and the potential for viable landfill sites. He sought to understand the impact of the 1500-foot buffer from surface water and other criteria on the availability of land for landfill development.
HB707 1231H: Representative R Information Only05:04:48.718 - 1:03:34 PM; Representative R inquired about the origin of the specific hydraulic conductivity number in the bill, expressing curiosity about who chose that particular value and why it was included in the legislation.
HB707 1231H: Representative Mun Information Only05:05:56.480 - 1:04:42 PM; Representative Mun questioned a change in the bill's text from 'may' to 'shall' and sought to understand the implications of this change on the criteria for denying landfill permits. He was particularly interested in the criteria related to the integrity, reliability, and criminal history of landfill operators and their affiliates.
HB707 1231H: Representative Judy Aaron, representing Sullivan County District 4 (towns of Acworth, Goshen, Lempster, Langdon, and Washington) Support05:08:33.680 - 1:07:19 PM; Representative Judy Aaron expressed support for HB707, emphasizing its importance in protecting the environment and public health. She highlighted the bill's alignment with the governor's commitment to safe landfill siting and its role in preventing incidents like the St. Gobain contamination. Aaron stressed the need for the bill's inclusion in the budget as a policy measure to ensure the protection of aquifers and important waterways.
HB707 1231H: Unknown Speaker from Rochester Oppose05:11:58.320 - 1:10:44 PM; The speaker expressed strong opposition to the current landfill siting rules in New Hampshire, describing them as the weakest globally. They highlighted the initial draft of the rules which were more stringent but were weakened multiple times. The speaker criticized the Department of Environmental Services (DES) for weakening the rules post-public comment and noted that the new rules allow landfills to be sited with minimal setbacks and even allow soil to be brought in to meet the minimal requirements. They mentioned the potential environmental hazards, including the use of PFAS in landfill liners, and referenced a quote from a landfill manager in Vermont to underline the geological unsuitability of some proposed sites. The speaker also mentioned the support of Waste Management, a major landfill operator in Rochester, for HB77, suggesting potential expansion plans. They warned of impending lawsuits if the current rules remain unchanged and stressed the importance of passing HB707 to protect public health and the environment.
HB707 1231H: Representative Leeman Information Only05:16:55.200 - 1:15:41 PM; Representative Leeman expressed concern about the development of less strict rules by DES and inquired about the motives behind these changes. The speaker responded by emphasizing that their proposed policies in HB707 aim to benefit and protect New Hampshire citizens, their health, and the environment.
HB707 1231H: Representative Judy Aaron Support05:18:17.280 - 1:17:03 PM; Representative Aaron provided context on the rule-making process, mentioning that JELCAR had initially declared the rules against public interest but later accepted them with a mandate for legislative action. She discussed the initial strictness of her bill and subsequent adjustments made after consultations, emphasizing her commitment to returning to more protective standards that had been in place for the last decade or two.
HB2 1231H: Representative Griffin Oppose05:20:53.360 - 1:19:39 PM; Representative Griffin opposed the inclusion of the landfill siting policy in HB2, arguing that it should be handled by Division One of Finance and not mixed with budget bills.
HB2 1231H: Representative Wiler Information Only05:22:12.600 - 1:20:58 PM; Representative Wiler noted that there is already language in HB2 related to landfill siting, specifically about a siting evaluation committee proposed by the governor. He emphasized that the policy in question is foundational for what the siting evaluation committee would need to consider.
HB2 1231H: Representative Campbell Support05:24:00.320 - 1:22:46 PM; Representative Campbell supported the inclusion of the landfill siting policy in HB2, citing precedent and the importance of the policy.
HB2 1231H: Committee Vote05:24:00.320 - 1:22:46 PM; The committee voted on amendment 1231H to HB2, with the motion to include the amendment passing with 5 votes in favor and 4 opposed.
HB1: Committee Vote05:25:06.210 - 1:23:52 PM; The committee discussed and voted on amendments related to fees and grants in HB1. The amendment on page 25 regarding fee changes was moved and seconded, passing unanimously. The amendment on page 26 concerning non-federal grants passed with 8 votes in favor and 1 opposed.
HB1: Committee Information Only05:30:21.840 - 1:29:07 PM; The committee continued discussing budget adjustments, focusing on the impact of accepting fees from the solid waste area, which would reduce the general fund by specific amounts as detailed in the packet. They clarified that while the general fund would be reduced, the expenses would not change, and adjustments were made to the 2026 and 2027 budget figures, lowering them from $27 million to $20 million and $21 million respectively.
HB639: Director of Securities Regulation Information Only05:33:22.160 - 1:32:08 PM; The Director of Securities Regulation discussed ongoing collaboration and efforts to create language for the bill, indicating progress but not completion. The committee then moved to pass the bill with a motion by Representative Sweeney, seconded by Representative Griffin.
HB639: Representative Evil Information Only05:34:25.400 - 1:33:11 PM; Representative Evil clarified that HB310, which dealt with cryptocurrency, was unrelated to the current bill being discussed. This was shared to fulfill a previous commitment to look into the matter.
HB639: Representative R Oppose05:34:25.400 - 1:33:11 PM; Representative R opposed the bill, citing concerns about the lack of testimony from key individuals and insufficient vetting, suggesting it should have been reviewed by a second committee.
HB639: Representative Muns Oppose05:34:25.400 - 1:33:11 PM; Representative Muns also opposed the bill, expressing concerns about regulatory issues, the impact on energy resources due to blockchain, local control issues, and the unclear impact on the judicial branch.
HB639: Committee Vote05:37:06.320 - 1:35:52 PM; The committee voted on HB639, with a motion to pass by Representative Sweeney, seconded by Representative Griffin. The vote resulted in 7 votes in favor and 2 against, with the bill passing as amended by the House.
HB2 1312: Committee Information Only05:38:30.878 - 1:37:16 PM; The committee discussed an amendment to align with a previously passed bill, which would dissolve the Office of Cost Containment. The amendment was moved and seconded, leading to a unanimous vote in favor.
HB1 1242H: Representative Campbell Information Only05:40:39.440 - 1:39:25 PM; Representative Campbell moved an amendment to cut the Department of Transportation's (DOT) budget, which was seconded by Representative Sweeney. The amendment targeted a 5% reduction of the DOT's budget, with discussion on the challenges of predicting the impact due to the variety of funding sources.
HB1 1242H: Representative R Support05:42:00.160 - 1:40:46 PM; Representative R supported the amendment despite budgetary challenges, indicating a willingness to share the financial burden across different agencies.
HB1 1242H: Committee Vote05:42:00.160 - 1:40:46 PM; The committee voted unanimously in favor of the amendment to HB1, adjusting the DOT's budget.
HB1: Committee Information Only05:43:23.120 - 1:42:09 PM; The committee discussed a technical amendment to adjust class 027 transfers within the budget to ensure balance between different divisions' adjustments. The amendment was moved and seconded, leading to a unanimous vote in favor.
HB1: Committee Information Only05:44:36.558 - 1:43:22 PM; The committee reviewed additional budget requests from the Department of Information Technology, deciding to keep these changes separate from the main budget as they involved other funds, not general funds. The changes were moved and seconded, resulting in a unanimous vote in favor.
HB1: Committee Information Only05:47:12.638 - 1:45:58 PM; The committee discussed the budget for the Advocate for Special Education, approving the reclassification of a temporary position to full-time without approving additional requested positions or travel funds. The motion was moved by Representative Sweeney and seconded by Representative Eel, resulting in a unanimous vote in favor.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:51:20.558 - 1:50:06 PM; The speaker discussed the Department of Justice's budget, noting a significant increase in the grants line over the last budget cycle. They proposed reducing the grants to $1.5 million per year and suggested a corresponding back of the budget cut to give the department flexibility in managing their budget.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:52:20.718 - 1:51:06 PM; The speaker continued discussing the Department of Justice's budget, specifically addressing the human trafficking grant which was on a separate line item. They clarified the intention to reduce the budget to $1.5 million for general funds and discussed the need for a back of the budget cut.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:53:37.680 - 1:52:23 PM; The speaker mentioned a document handed out by Melissa and discussed the need to reduce the budget to $1.5 million. They also addressed a misunderstanding about the reduction and suggested voting on the budget even without the document.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only05:54:39.280 - 1:53:25 PM; The speaker explained the reason for the increase in the grants line, attributing it to a decline in federal funding. They discussed the importance of the grants, particularly the VOCA grant, and the governor's support for it.
HB1: Representative Eel Oppose05:55:58.798 - 1:54:44 PM; Representative Eel expressed opposition to cutting the grants, emphasizing the importance of victim advocacy and counseling, particularly for human trafficking victims. They argued that cutting these funds sends a dangerous message to perpetrators and law enforcement.
HB1: Representative R Oppose05:57:11.440 - 1:55:57 PM; Representative R supported Representative Eel's stance, arguing that the grants help prevent illegal activities and support victims. They suggested that cutting these funds could lead to more prosecutions and higher costs in the long run.
HB1: Representative Muns Oppose06:03:20.160 - 2:02:06 PM; Representative Muns argued that the grants benefit the people served by nonprofits, not the organizations themselves. They emphasized the importance of addressing issues to reduce crime and save costs in the long run.
HB1: Representative Griffin Support06:01:00.558 - 1:59:46 PM; Representative Griffin supported cutting grants over cutting personnel, arguing that the state needs people in the Justice Department to prosecute crimes and defend the state. They expressed frustration over the distribution of federal grants.
HB1: Representative Wiler Support06:02:11.920 - 2:00:57 PM; Representative Wiler supported cutting grants, citing a lack of accountability and questioning the effectiveness of the grants.
HB1: Representative R Oppose06:05:44.240 - 2:04:30 PM; Representative R defended the work of nonprofits, arguing that the salaries of those working directly with victims are justified. They highlighted the challenges nonprofits face in raising funds.
HB1: Representative Leechman Support06:07:13.200 - 2:05:59 PM; Representative Leechman proposed a back of the budget cut of $7,358,000 per year for the Department of Justice, arguing that the attorney general should have the flexibility to make the necessary cuts.
HB1: Representative Griffin Support06:08:06.120 - 2:06:52 PM; Representative Griffin seconded the motion for the back of the budget cut, expressing confidence in the attorney general's ability to make appropriate cuts.
HB1: Representative Group Information Only06:09:13.760 - 2:07:59 PM; Representative Group clarified that the proposed cut included the value of the grants, allowing the attorney general to potentially cut all grants if necessary.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Oppose06:09:13.760 - 2:07:59 PM; An unnamed speaker expressed opposition to the proposed cuts, citing the governor's support for the Department of Justice's work. The vote resulted in seven in favor and two opposed.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:10:54.240 - 2:09:40 PM; The speaker discussed the BEA's budget, proposing to transfer money from the marketing line to the SBDC, responding to small businesses' support for the SBDC. The vote resulted in eight in favor and one opposed.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:15:13.120 - 2:13:59 PM; The speaker discussed the family medical leave program, suggesting that cutting certain funds would not affect the program's continuation. They mentioned a recent email from the Department of Insurance expressing concerns about the proposed changes.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:15:13.120 - 2:13:59 PM; The speaker was finishing a discussion about the insurance department's comments on amendment 1212, which was related to the budget. They mentioned that the amendment was being printed out and they were concerned about the costs associated with removing accounting unit 2177, which would result in savings but the program would continue.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:17:22.240 - 2:16:08 PM; The speaker discussed class 60, which pertains to benefits paid to state employees, specifically in relation to the Paid Family Medical Leave Act. They noted that removing accounting unit 2177 would still keep the benefits in the class 60 line. They suggested reaching out to Cassie Keane and the Department of Insurance for further clarification on amendment 1212.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:18:47.360 - 2:17:33 PM; The speaker mentioned an email from Commissioner Bettton Court and the need for input from the Department of Insurance regarding amendment 1212. They decided to leave the issue open for further discussion the next day and clarified that they were not proposing to repeal the plan but needed to understand the consequences of removing accounting unit 2177. They also mentioned House Bill 517, which was on the consent calendar and related to repealing a marketing requirement.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:22:37.400 - 2:21:23 PM; The speaker moved to discuss the treasury debt service on page 29 of the budget document, which was related to health and retiree health issues. They mentioned a savings of $4 million during the biennium and the smoothing of a fund from when the state was self-insured.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:23:26.400 - 2:22:12 PM; The speaker clarified that the savings of $4 million would be achieved by using a leftover fund from when the state was self-insured. They discussed the transition from being self-insured to purchasing insurance and the management of the fund. They unanimously voted on an amendment related to accounting unit 2903.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:24:48.958 - 2:23:34 PM; The speaker revisited amendment 1212, which was about repealing granted state paid family leave, and confirmed it would be addressed the next day after gathering more information. They then moved to discuss a prison budget decrease on page 29, related to the new Concord men's prison, and unanimously voted on an amendment to accounting unit 2076.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:26:29.840 - 2:25:15 PM; The speaker discussed the treasurer's budget and the allocation of $40 million for the design of a new Concord men's prison, which had not been fully borrowed yet, thus reducing the need for debt service. They also mentioned moving to discuss the new appeals board on page 31, which was a combination of the PLB, PAB, and Right to Know Ombudsman budgets.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:27:16.798 - 2:26:02 PM; The speaker mentioned that they are currently printing an amendment for HB2 and suggested taking a break until 3:40. They also brought up a revenue sharing proposal related to cutting 23 million from room and meals, expressing an intent to connect this to possible changes to group two.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:41:41.520 - 2:40:27 PM; The speaker distributed a list of retained bills without corresponding amendments in HB2, explaining that some bills have costs associated with them but are not significant in most cases. They requested feedback on the bills with blank columns, asking members to rate them from one to six before leaving the session.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:43:28.638 - 2:42:14 PM; The speaker discussed the financial implications of certain bills, noting that the first two listed were unaffordable. They asked for ratings on the other bills to potentially include them in the budget. A question was raised about HB365, clarifying its budget allocation and the Secretary of State's position.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:45:35.280 - 2:44:21 PM; The speaker proposed combining the Public Employees Labor Relations Board (PELRB), the Personnel Appeals Board, and the Right to Know Ombudsman into a single office to achieve savings. They discussed the current workload and staffing of these entities, suggesting that combining them would provide more support and efficiency.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:46:57.360 - 2:45:43 PM; The speaker continued discussing the proposed consolidation, mentioning that they had worked with the PELRB attorney on an amendment. They explained that administratively attaching these entities to the PELRB would decrease their individual budgets while achieving savings. They referenced specific budget pages to illustrate the financial impact.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:49:07.040 - 2:47:53 PM; The speaker summarized the budget changes resulting from the proposed consolidation, noting an overall savings. They mentioned that combining the PELRB and the Personnel Appeals Board made sense due to similar issues, but questioned the inclusion of the Right to Know Ombudsman, as its cases were not primarily related to labor.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:50:32.160 - 2:49:18 PM; The speaker discussed the budget implications of legal office staff, suggesting savings of around $600,000 by reducing personnel. They highlighted the need to use total line figures rather than general fund lines in budget calculations and mentioned ongoing adjustments to the budget.
HB2: Representative Sweeney Information Only06:52:08.718 - 2:50:54 PM; Representative Sweeney proposed moving three pages of amendments, including amendment 1303, and discussed the budget changes. They mentioned a small change proposed by Melissa regarding the Right to Know Ombudsman's position being converted to a contract position.
HB2: Melissa Information Only06:53:11.840 - 2:51:57 PM; Melissa clarified that the Right to Know Ombudsman would be converted to a contract position, similar to the personnel appeals board, and emphasized the need to include this change in the statute. She confirmed that the position would not be eliminated but would be compensated differently.
HB2: Representative Evil Information Only06:54:12.240 - 2:52:58 PM; Representative Evil sought clarification on whether the Right to Know Ombudsman's position extension was covered in the amendment. They confirmed that the position would not be eliminated but converted to a contract position, affecting how the Ombudsman is compensated.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only06:55:28.400 - 2:54:14 PM; The speaker discussed the transition of the Right to Know Ombudsman to a contract position, similar to how other boards operate with attorneys and others on a case-by-case basis. They raised concerns about the effective date of the change and its impact on the current appointee.
HB2: Representative L Information Only06:56:36.160 - 2:55:22 PM; Representative L questioned the necessity of maintaining three separate boards and suggested consolidating them into a single board or office to streamline operations and reduce costs.
HB2: Representative Sweeney Information Only06:58:00.878 - 2:56:46 PM; Representative Sweeney moved to approve House Bill 2 amendment 1303 along with other amendments from pages 31, 32, and 33. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously.
HB2: Representative Sweeney Information Only06:58:57.120 - 2:57:43 PM; Representative Sweeney proposed a new concept of combining various boards with the judicial branch, specifically focusing on creating a new enterprise and property court modeled after Delaware's Court of Chancery. This court would handle commercial, corporate, and property cases, aiming to increase efficiency and attract more corporate filings to New Hampshire.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:00:55.360 - 2:59:41 PM; The speaker discussed the proposed enterprise and property court, highlighting its potential to handle increased case loads and generate revenue through higher filing fees. They suggested starting with two new judges to manage the workload and mentioned the long-term goal of positioning New Hampshire as a competitive state for corporate filings.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:01:56.958 - 3:00:42 PM; The speaker continued discussing the enterprise and property court, emphasizing its potential benefits and the need for judicial input. They confirmed the plan to add two judges to handle the new docket and discussed the appeal process within the superior court system.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:02:58.478 - 3:01:44 PM; The speaker addressed questions about the proposed court, including the assignment of judges and the handling of human rights cases. They clarified that the business and commercial dispute docket and the land use docket would be combined into this new court.
HB2: Representative Lee Information Only07:04:51.520 - 3:03:37 PM; Representative Lee expressed support for Representative Sweeney's proposal but suggested starting with one judge and corresponding support staff. They emphasized the importance of assessing the case load and developing the court system over time.
HB2: Representative Beel Information Only07:06:06.000 - 3:04:52 PM; Representative Beel sought clarification on whether the judicial branch had been consulted about the proposal and the status of magistrate contracts. They discussed the need for judicial input before proceeding with the budget changes.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:06:55.280 - 3:05:41 PM; The speaker discussed the potential for the new court to expedite resolutions and suggested investing in technology to enhance efficiency. They noted that the court would need to utilize technology for faster filings and resolutions.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:07:48.638 - 3:06:34 PM; The speaker discussed the need for judicial branch input on the proposed court and confirmed that the budget for the judicial branch had already been voted on. They suggested reaching out to the chief justice for further discussion.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:08:58.240 - 3:07:44 PM; The speaker discussed the magistrate contracts, noting that they are set by the chief justice and would need to be paid out if their duties are not restored. They mentioned an amendment to restore magistrate duties, excluding bail decisions.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:10:07.440 - 3:08:53 PM; The speaker confirmed the need for further discussion with the judicial branch regarding the proposed court and the magistrate contracts. They mentioned that the bail bill had been signed, affecting magistrate duties.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:11:17.680 - 3:10:03 PM; The speaker discussed the implications of the bail bill on magistrate duties and the county's costs. They confirmed that the judicial branch budget had been voted on but suggested further consultation before finalizing the proposed court.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:12:29.920 - 3:11:15 PM; The speaker mentioned ongoing communication with the judicial branch about the proposed court and the need for their input. They suggested a phone call with the chief justice to discuss the proposal further.
HB2: Representative R Information Only07:13:35.200 - 3:12:21 PM; Representative R expressed conceptual support for the proposed court but highlighted concerns about the judicial branch's input and the terminology used. They suggested using clearer terminology for the court's name.
HB2: Representative Sweeney Information Only07:14:43.520 - 3:13:29 PM; Representative Sweeney moved the concept of consolidating the land use docket and the business and commercial dispute docket into a new commercial court docket, adding one judge and the necessary staff. The motion was discussed and passed conceptually.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:16:36.798 - 3:15:22 PM; The speaker confirmed the budget implications of adding one judge to the new commercial court docket and discussed the need for a separate amendment regarding the magistrates. They noted that the proposal would increase the judiciary's budget by $1.236 million.
HB2: Representative Sweeney Information Only07:17:56.958 - 3:16:42 PM; Representative Sweeney thanked the committee for their support and confirmed the next steps, including further discussion and amendment development with the judicial branch's input.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:19:06.798 - 3:17:52 PM; The speaker moved to the next item on the agenda, the conservation land stewardship program, and proposed adopting the governor's version of the budget for this program. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:20:13.478 - 3:18:59 PM; The speaker discussed the budget for the consumer advocate, noting that it is funded by all other funds. They mentioned a retained bill to eliminate the consumer advocate and discussed the potential benefits and costs of maintaining the office.
HB2: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:20:52.718 - 3:19:38 PM; The speaker continued discussing the consumer advocate's role and the potential impact of eliminating the office. They highlighted the advocate's importance in representing ratepayers and participating in regional energy discussions.
HB2: Representative Sweeney Information Only07:22:34.958 - 3:21:20 PM; Representative Sweeney expressed concerns about the haste in deciding to repeal the consumer advocate position, suggesting that if the decision to repeal is made next year, the House would have had input on the decision, and savings could be realized then.
HB2: Representative Leeman Information Only07:22:34.958 - 3:21:20 PM; Representative Leeman expressed interest in hearing from Representatives Cabril and Cameron, who have served on the relevant committee, regarding their views on the consumer advocate position.
HB2: Representative Cameron Oppose07:22:34.958 - 3:21:20 PM; Representative Cameron shared his experience on the STN committee, indicating a long-standing effort to eliminate the consumer advocate position, viewing it as unnecessary.
HB2: Representative M Support07:23:54.920 - 3:22:40 PM; Representative M supported the consumer advocate, emphasizing the importance of having an objective perspective that looks out for consumer interests and challenges utilities and state government.
HB2: Representative Campbell Oppose07:24:36.878 - 3:23:22 PM; Representative Campbell disagreed with the need for a consumer advocate, arguing that the majority of legislators and the ST&E committee already look out for ratepayers' interests.
HB2: Representative R Support07:25:50.798 - 3:24:36 PM; Representative R supported the consumer advocate, highlighting the high electric rates in New Hampshire and the need for someone specifically advocating for consumers.
HB2: Representative Sweeney Oppose07:26:54.478 - 3:25:40 PM; Representative Sweeney argued against funding the consumer advocate office, stating it's a direct charge to ratepayers and suggested that the Department of Energy and Department of Justice already advocate for consumers.
HB2: Representative Eel Support07:27:47.200 - 3:26:33 PM; Representative Eel found it outrageous to refuse funding for the consumer advocate position, especially since it's not a general fund issue and the decision to abolish it hasn't been made by the relevant committee.
Unclear: Unnamed Speaker Oppose07:30:55.600 - 3:29:41 PM; The speaker expressed dissatisfaction with a job training program funded by the Department of Employment Security, arguing that it benefits only a few employers while all employers in New Hampshire fund it. The program reimburses half of the training expenses and charges an additional 10% for operations, which the speaker finds inefficient.
Unclear: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:31:43.200 - 3:30:29 PM; The speaker discussed the employment security budget, specifically focusing on three programs: Work Invest, Work Now, and Work Ready. They proposed eliminating the Work Invest program, which reimburses employers for training costs, arguing that it primarily benefits larger employers and increases the cost of unemployment insurance by about 4%. The other two programs, aimed at training disabled workers and providing community college training, were suggested to be maintained or even reallocated funds from the Work Invest program to support them more.
Unclear: Representative R Information Only07:34:17.120 - 3:33:03 PM; Representative R expressed agreement with the logic of cutting the general jobs training match but was interested in understanding the spending and needs of the programs for disabled people and community colleges. They suggested possibly reallocating funds from the job training program to these other programs, noting the effectiveness of Nashua Community College in providing business-related training.
Unclear: Representative Wiler Information Only07:35:26.638 - 3:34:12 PM; Representative Wiler discussed the financial implications of the employment security programs on the unemployment fund. They explained that the fund's balance affects unemployment rates, and cutting one program might not immediately lower rates due to infrequent adjustments. They mentioned a potential amendment for discussion.
Unclear: Representative Eel Vote07:37:46.478 - 3:36:32 PM; Representative Eel moved to approve the budget of the Department of Energy, excluding the consumer advocate, which was to be voted on separately. The motion was seconded by Representative Sweeney and passed unanimously.
Unclear: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:38:41.958 - 3:37:27 PM; The speaker discussed a proposed cut to the Governor's Commission on Disability budget, specifically targeting a new temporary position. They clarified that the position was budgeted but never used, suggesting it was a new allocation rather than a cut to existing funds.
Unclear: Representative C Vote07:42:02.638 - 3:40:48 PM; Representative C moved to cut the funds allocated for the new temporary position in the Governor's Commission on Disability budget. The motion was seconded by Representative Sweeney. The cut was for $20,000, intended for a position that was budgeted but never utilized.
Unclear: Representative Griffin Oppose07:43:22.878 - 3:42:08 PM; Representative Griffin opposed the cut to the Governor's Commission on Disability budget, arguing that it would be detrimental to people with disabilities, especially given the challenges they face. They viewed the cut as penny-wise and pound-foolish, and even insulting to the disabled community.
Unclear: Representative Eel Vote07:44:50.250 - 3:43:36 PM; Representative Eel moved to approve the Labor Department's budget, which was seconded by Representative Sweeney. They discussed potential increases in fees and fines, and a specific adjustment to elevator fees from HB2. The budget, including these changes, was passed unanimously.
Unclear: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:46:18.798 - 3:45:04 PM; The speaker mentioned that the cemetery commissioner supported fee increases for cemeteries, noting that the fees were still less than the regular cost. They moved to accept the military affairs and veteran services budget with the fee changes, which was seconded and passed unanimously.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:46:18.798 - 3:45:04 PM; The speaker concludes their previous discussion without any new remarks.
HB1: Representative Evil Information Only07:47:48.798 - 3:46:34 PM; Representative Evil discusses the budget of the Office of Professional Licensure and Certification (OPLC), mentioning that there are no fees but a dedicated fund exists, indicating satisfaction with the current budget. They move to accept the budget as is.
HB1: Representative Campbell Information Only07:48:39.760 - 3:47:25 PM; Seconds the motion to accept the OPLC budget as is. Later, moves to accept the governor's budget for the parole board, which involves not funding a currently filled secretary position.
HB1: Representative Sweeney Information Only07:49:43.760 - 3:48:29 PM; Seconds the motion regarding the parole board's budget, agreeing with not funding the additional secretary position.
HB1: Representative Evil Information Only07:50:52.080 - 3:49:38 PM; Moves the budget for the Public Utilities Commission (PUC), indicating it was a jest to eliminate it but then moves to accept the budget as is.
HB1: Representative Run Information Only07:51:39.840 - 3:50:25 PM; Seconds the motion to accept the PUC budget.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:51:39.840 - 3:50:25 PM; Discusses the retirement system's budget, noting a significant increase and expressing concern over the budget's growth, mentioning discussions with the labor commissioner about the budget's size.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:52:34.280 - 3:51:20 PM; Continues discussion on the retirement system's budget, highlighting the increase in personnel and consultant costs, and questioning the justification for such increases.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:53:24.398 - 3:52:10 PM; Further discusses the retirement system's budget, focusing on specific line items and the impact of a COLA on the budget figures, suggesting the need for a significant reduction in the budget.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:54:21.200 - 3:53:07 PM; Continues the discussion on the retirement system's budget, emphasizing the need for the budget to be reduced due to the significant increase from previous years, and questioning the increase in headcount.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:55:11.280 - 3:53:57 PM; Concludes the discussion on the retirement system's budget, reiterating the need for a substantial reduction and questioning the justification for the proposed budget increase.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:56:01.680 - 3:54:47 PM; The speaker discussed budget cuts related to the retirement system, mentioning a conversation with the labor commissioner from Maryfield, who supported reducing the budget. The discussion included considerations of cutting personnel and benefits lines but not software expenses. The speaker proposed reducing the budget to $15 million a year, which was a $4 million cut from the proposed $19 million, though it still represented an increase from the current year's budget.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only07:57:34.878 - 3:56:20 PM; The speaker continued the discussion on the retirement system's budget, confirming the cut from $19 million to $15 million, which was a $4 million reduction but still a 10% increase from the current year. There was a mention of a new computer system justifying the budget increase. The speaker also noted a conversation with Commissioner Maryfield, who is a member of the retirement board, and suggested inviting representatives from the retirement system to defend their budget.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only08:00:14.240 - 3:59:00 PM; The speaker expressed concerns about the significant budget cut and suggested hearing from the retirement system representatives before finalizing the cut. They mentioned feedback from a constituent who was unhappy with the high expenses affecting the retirement corpus. The speaker considered a compromise cut to $16 million but decided to stick with the $15 million cut.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Vote08:01:01.520 - 3:59:47 PM; The speaker moved to reduce the retirement system's budget to $15 million annually, which was seconded and passed with five votes in favor and four opposed. The discussion then shifted to other budget items, including the Department of Revenue Administration and the State Department, with some decisions deferred due to pending information.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Vote08:02:45.638 - 4:01:31 PM; The speaker moved and seconded changes to the Department of Revenue Administration's budget, which passed unanimously. Further discussion included pending cuts for the State Department and considerations for the Treasury, specifically about unfunded positions and requests for additional staff, which were discussed but not finalized.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only08:05:27.200 - 4:04:13 PM; The speaker discussed the Treasury's request to adjust the statute to allow more than two assistant treasurers, similar to the Secretary of State's office. This adjustment would not involve new funding but rather reassigning existing positions. The motion to change the statute was moved and seconded.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only08:05:27.200 - 4:04:13 PM; The speaker concluded their remarks as the session transitioned to logistical discussions about future meetings and voting schedules.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only08:07:48.760 - 4:06:34 PM; The speaker confirmed a unanimous decision in favor of the discussed matter and proceeded to address the scheduling for the next day's meeting, indicating it was set for 9:00 AM but could potentially be pushed to 10:00 AM. They discussed the agenda for the next day, which included topics like retirement, M&R, and miscellaneous items, and mentioned the need for a more complete set of financial data.
HB1: Representative Evil Information Only08:08:58.120 - 4:07:44 PM; Representative Evil inquired about the plans for Friday the 28th and the timing of full finance committee votes on bills recommended by divisions. There was some confusion and clarification about whether these votes would happen within the context of the budget and on which days, with mentions of potential voting on Wednesday or Thursday.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only08:10:12.080 - 4:08:58 PM; The speaker provided clarity on the scheduling, stating that the division meetings would conclude by tomorrow and that they were not planning to meet on Friday. They also mentioned that Division Two would be crucial in balancing the budget once numbers from other divisions are received.
HB1: Unnamed Speaker Information Only08:11:09.040 - 4:09:55 PM; The speaker reiterated that there would be no meeting on Friday as there was not much left to discuss.