Committee Summary for House Legislative Administration (02/19/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
HB142 00:06:11.919 - 8:10:17 AM	Public Hearing	relative to the Honor and Remember Flag.	Moffett, Michael(R)[A-]2024
HB157 01:01:46.720 - 9:05:52 AM	Public Hearing	establishing a study committee to examine ways to improve the usefulness of fiscal notes.	Muns, Chris(D)[CT]2024
HB477 02:01:09.840 - 10:05:15 AM	Public Hearing	establishing a commission to study safety and security procedures in the New Hampshire state house.	Telerski, Laura(D)[CT]2024
HB314 03:58:44.680 - 12:02:50 PM	Public Hearing	prohibiting the use of federal, state, or local funds for lobbying activities.	Potenza, Kelley(R)[A]2024
HB314 04:10:01.680 - 12:14:07 PM	Public Hearing	prohibiting the use of federal, state, or local funds for lobbying activities.	Potenza, Kelley(R)[A]2024
HB314 2025-0253 04:50:09.958 - 12:54:15 PM	Public Hearing	prohibiting the use of federal, state, or local funds for lobbying activities.	Potenza, Kelley(R)[A]2024
HB314 04:56:36.798 - 1:00:42 PM	Executive Session	prohibiting the use of federal, state, or local funds for lobbying activities.	Potenza, Kelley(R)[A]2024
HB314 05:01:12.600 - 1:05:18 PM	Public Hearing	prohibiting the use of federal, state, or local funds for lobbying activities.	Potenza, Kelley(R)[A]2024
HR8 05:35:51.760 - 1:39:57 PM	Public Hearing	resolving that the practice of suspending a constitutional officer to be outside the authority designated to the judiciary and appropriately delegated to the general court.	Belcher, Mike(R)[A]2024
HB118 05:40:45.920 - 1:44:51 PM	Public Hearing	establishing required breaks during legislative proceedings.	Thomas, Wendy(D)[CT]2024

HB142: Representative Mike Moffett, Merrimack District 4, representing Canterbury and Loudon Support00:06:11.919 - 8:10:17 AM; Representative Moffett, the prime sponsor of HB142, expressed strong support for the bill which aims to officially recognize the Honor and Remember flag in New Hampshire. He highlighted that the flag is designed by a national nonprofit organization, Honor and Remember Inc., and is already recognized by 28 other states. Moffett addressed concerns about the flag potentially detracting from the American flag, stating that the new language in the bill aims to mitigate these concerns. He emphasized the personal significance of the flag, which allows families to personalize it with the name of their fallen loved one, something not traditionally done with the American flag. He shared a personal story about his brother, a veteran who passed away, and how the Honor and Remember flag could serve as a meaningful tribute to him and other veterans who died due to service-related issues. Moffett also discussed the opposition from some veteran organizations like the State Veterans Advisory Council (SVAC), yet argued that multiple flags and symbols complement each other in veteran culture. He suggested that the bill could be amended to specify fewer days for the flag to be flown and encouraged the committee to pass the bill to honor Gold Star families and veterans.
HB142: Representative Wall Information Only00:16:42.600 - 8:20:48 AM; Representative Wall asked Representative Moffett to clarify where the Marine Corps flag is flown on November 10th, to which Moffett confirmed that it flies over the State House, as sanctioned by a previous legislative measure.
HB142: Representative Terot Information Only00:17:20.240 - 8:21:26 AM; Representative Terot inquired about the number of states that have recognized the Honor and Remember flag, to which Moffett responded that 28 states have, and it's pending in others.
HB142: Unidentified Speaker Information Only00:18:06.799 - 8:22:12 AM; An unidentified speaker asked about the logistics of flying the flag over the State House, including the height of flagpoles and whether the flag could be flown without touching the ground. Moffett responded that the committee has the power to decide on such matters and suggested that logistical issues should not be a barrier to recognizing the flag.
HB142: Representative Janine Notter, Hillsborough 12 Oppose00:21:15.559 - 8:25:21 AM; Representative Notter expressed her opposition to HB142 despite her respect for the bill's sponsor and Gold Star families. She recounted her experience during the bill's first introduction in 2011-2012, mentioning the concerns raised then about the Honor and Remember flag's resemblance to the Viet Cong flag. Notter argued that the American flag, which is draped over the coffins of fallen servicemen and women, should be the sole flag representing them.
HB142: Kevin Grady Information Only00:23:51.080 - 8:27:57 AM; Kevin Grady's testimony was cut off in the transcript, so only his introduction was captured. He began speaking about his handwriting and a humorous remark about being a doctor, indicating he was about to testify on the bill.
HB142: Kevin Grady, State Veterans Advisory Committee Oppose00:23:59.440 - 8:28:05 AM; Kevin Grady, representing the State Veterans Advisory Committee, spoke against HB142. He mentioned that their committee, established under RSA 115:A-8, evaluates bills impacting veterans and takes positions accordingly. Grady emphasized their opposition to the bill, echoing the sentiments previously expressed by Representative Mfet. They believe the American flag sufficiently represents veterans and while they appreciate the work of Honor and Remember, they feel the proposed flag is unnecessary. He noted that the Honor and Remember flag is already flown at the state veterans cemetery in Boscawen.
HB142: Patricia Bido, Gold Star Family Support00:28:38.279 - 8:32:44 AM; Patricia Bido shared her personal connection to the Honor and Remember flag, explaining that her stepson, Derek Bido, died by suicide after serving in the US Army and suffering from PTSD. She emphasized the flag's importance in keeping the memory of fallen soldiers alive and educating the public about Gold Star families. Bido clarified that the flag does not replace the American flag but serves as a personal symbol of remembrance. She advocated for the flag to be flown on the state capitol for one day to honor those who have sacrificed their lives.
HB142: Richard Bido, Gold Star Family Support00:30:58.000 - 8:35:04 AM; Richard Bido supported the Honor and Remember flag, expressing respect for veterans and the American flag. He highlighted the flag's role in remembering families who lost members to service and addressed concerns about it replacing the American flag. He mentioned a flag presentation at the Jaffrey VFW and inquired about online testimony submitted to the committee.
HB142: Jackie Gr, Representative from Rockingham 24 (Rye and Greenland) Support00:34:03.600 - 8:38:09 AM; Representative Jackie Gr, representing Rye and Greenland, spoke in favor of HB142, mentioning that she sponsored the bill in honor of her constituent, Nancy Marston, a Gold Star Family mother. She argued that while the American flag represents all citizens, the Honor and Remember flag specifically honors those who died in service. Gr emphasized the flag's significance in recognizing the sacrifices of fallen soldiers and requested open-minded consideration of the bill.
HB142: Nancy Marston, Gold Star Mom Support00:36:42.880 - 8:40:48 AM; Nancy Marston, a fourth-generation New Hampshire native and Gold Star mom, passionately supported HB142. She explained that the Honor and Remember flag provides peace and healing to Gold Star families and serves as a tribute to New Hampshire's fallen soldiers across various wars. Marston detailed the number of New Hampshire citizens lost in different conflicts, emphasizing the flag's role in reminding the public of their sacrifices. She requested the flag be flown on three specific days: Memorial Day, Gold Star Mother's Day, and Gold Star Mothers and Families Day.
HB142: Jean Durgen, Gold Star Mother Support00:48:03.920 - 8:52:09 AM; Jean Durgen, a Gold Star mother who lost her son, Sergeant Russell Durgen, in 2006, spoke in favor of the Honor and Remember flag. She highlighted her son's commitment to his country and his plans for future contributions, emphasizing that the flag represents not just his death but his life. Durgen stated that the flag's movement symbolizes life and argued for its continued use to honor all fallen soldiers.
HB142: Timothy Chron, Opponent Oppose00:53:06.799 - 8:57:12 AM; Timothy Chron opposed HB142, expressing respect for Gold Star families but arguing against the state endorsing a private organization's flag. He provided a historical overview of the bill's rejections by the state and federal relations and Veterans Affairs Committee over the years, noting consistent opposition across different political compositions. Chron stressed that the Honor and Remember flag, while meaningful to some, should not be mandated by the state government.
HB142: Unknown Information Only00:58:50.400 - 9:02:56 AM; The speaker asked about the number and types of flags flown at the State House throughout the year. The chair responded that he did not know the exact number but mentioned the US flag, New Hampshire flag, and possibly the Marine Corps flag, noting the Marine Corps is part of the US government. The hearing on House Bill 142 was then closed.
HB157: Chris Muns, State Representative from Rockingham District 29, representing Hampton Support01:01:46.720 - 9:05:52 AM; Chris Muns, representing Hampton, introduced HB 157, which aims to establish a study committee to enhance the utility of fiscal notes. Muns expressed initial reluctance towards forming another study committee but was convinced of its necessity after consultations with other members and the legislative budget assistance office. He emphasized the constitutional duty of legislators to consider laws beneficial to the state and highlighted the limitations of current fiscal notes, which often only cover the fiscal impact on state agencies without broader economic analysis. He cited the example of the Canon Mountain Tramway replacement to illustrate the need for comprehensive cost-benefit analyses in fiscal notes. Muns detailed the proposed duties of the study committee, which would review and suggest changes to current fiscal note requirements, guidelines, and staffing. He volunteered to serve on the committee, urging the committee to recommend the bill for passage.
HB157: Unknown Information Only01:09:02.439 - 9:13:08 AM; The speaker questioned Chris Muns about the Legislative Budget Assistance (LBA) office's capacity to handle the proposed changes to fiscal notes, noting the current workload and time constraints. Muns responded that the study committee should explore all options, including staffing and resources, to determine what legislators need to perform their duties effectively. He acknowledged the challenges faced by the LBA and the importance of providing them with adequate time and resources.
HB157: Unknown Information Only01:10:32.800 - 9:14:38 AM; The speaker shared frustrations about the difficulty of obtaining fiscal notes, particularly from the Judiciary Committee, and inquired if Muns had discussed the LBA's needs. Muns confirmed he had consulted with the LBA, which helped him understand their challenges and draft the bill. He emphasized the importance of objective, quantitative data in fiscal notes, which is currently missing and tends to focus only on costs rather than potential investments.
HB157: Unknown Information Only01:12:05.400 - 9:16:11 AM; The speaker raised concerns about the participation of Senators in study committees. Muns responded that he had considered this issue and proposed a committee with only three Senators. The speaker also asked if the benefit side of bills was covered in testimony. Muns noted that while qualitative benefits are often discussed, the fiscal notes lack quantitative analysis, leading to a focus on costs rather than potential investments.
HB157: Paul Smith, Clerk of the House Information Only01:13:43.280 - 9:17:49 AM; Paul Smith, the Clerk of the House, was called to provide information but did not take a position on the bill.
HB157: Paul Smith, Clerk of the House Information Only01:14:29.239 - 9:18:35 AM; Paul Smith, the Clerk of the House, provided detailed insights into the process and challenges associated with the development of fiscal notes. He emphasized the need for amendments to the proposed legislation due to its construction and the unusual appointment process of the committee members, which deviates from the norm where the Speaker of the House appoints members. He stressed the importance of including the Legislative Budget Assistant (LBA) in the study committee due to the significant impact on the LBA's responsibilities. Smith also highlighted the time-consuming nature of cost-benefit analyses, using an example from the Commerce Committee's experience with ambulance services, which took eight months. He discussed the fiscal note development process, including the role of agencies and the LBA in providing expenditure and revenue projections. Furthermore, he addressed the constraints of legislative deadlines and the challenges of managing fiscal notes during the legislative session, particularly in the first year. He concluded by explaining the current policy on fiscal notes following bill amendments, which requires new notes to be drafted only after amendments are adopted.
HB157: Representative Information Only01:24:26.440 - 9:28:32 AM; The representative inquired about the feasibility of conducting more detailed fiscal analyses on a smaller subset of bills with significant financial impacts. They questioned whether it could be structured to focus on a few bills, acknowledging the impracticality of doing so for all bills due to time constraints.
HB157: Paul Smith, Clerk of the House Information Only01:24:26.440 - 9:28:32 AM; In response to the representative's question, Paul Smith elaborated on the challenges of conducting detailed fiscal analyses, mentioning a specific case from the Commerce Committee that took eight months. He explained that while some fiscal notes can be detailed, the process is hindered when bills are significantly changed during the legislative session. He noted the LBA's effectiveness in partnering with state agencies to produce fiscal notes quickly but pointed out instances where generic fiscal notes are used due to time constraints. He also discussed the policy on fiscal notes after bill amendments, where new notes are only drafted if amendments are adopted by the legislative body.
HB157: Representative Information Only01:24:26.440 - 9:28:32 AM; The representative asked about the percentage of bills requiring fiscal notes, expressing surprise at the high number of bills needing them annually. They questioned the necessity of fiscal notes for bills with minimal financial impact, such as those costing less than $10,000 annually.
HB157: Paul Smith, Clerk of the House Information Only01:24:26.440 - 9:28:32 AM; Paul Smith responded to the question about the percentage of bills needing fiscal notes, clarifying that even bills with minimal financial impact require a fiscal note, which takes time to draft. He explained that fiscal notes remain with the bill throughout its legislative life, even if the policy decision is to amend out actual funding. He highlighted the LBA's collaboration with agencies like the Department of Revenue Administration to provide detailed revenue projections, especially for bills involving taxes and fees.
HB157: NCH Grace, Business Industry Association Support01:26:39.119 - 9:30:45 AM; NCH Grace, representing the Business Industry Association, expressed support for the legislation. They highlighted the Association's interest in understanding the broader economic impacts that could be included in fiscal notes, given their representation of over 400 members with significant employment and revenue across New Hampshire. They offered to participate in the study committee to explore these economic impacts further.
HB157: Representative Information Only01:27:58.520 - 9:32:04 AM; The representative responded to Paul Smith's comments, agreeing on the need for a discussion about the future direction of fiscal notes and the composition of the study committee. They emphasized the intention to ensure bipartisan representation and include members from financially focused committees, expressing openness to alternative methods of appointing committee members.
HB157: Lucy Weber, Representative for Cheshire County 5, Walpole and Sur Support01:32:45.239 - 9:36:51 AM; Lucy Weber, representing Cheshire County 5 which includes the towns of Walpole and Sur, spoke in support of HB157. She highlighted the bill's purpose as a transparency measure, stemming from her experience with a time-sensitive bill related to commercial appraisers that needed to be effective by July 1st. She explained that during the bill's progress, there was a lack of transparency about where the bill was in the enrolling process, managed by the Secretary of State's office. Weber proposed that the Secretary of State should provide a public-facing listing or a link to a website detailing the status of bills during this process. She also addressed potential concerns about implementation, suggesting a simple Excel spreadsheet or a link could suffice, and emphasized the need for easier public access to legislative progress information without overburdening the offices involved.
HB157: David Scanlan, Secretary of State Information Only01:40:24.520 - 9:44:30 AM; David Scanlan, the Secretary of State, did not take a position on HB157 but provided information about the enrolled bills process. He explained the role of his office in transferring legislation from the legislature to the governor and the steps involved once a bill is passed. Scanlan noted that while his office could track the location of bills using a spreadsheet, the current process has been maintained as per legislative preference. He discussed the potential reasons for not making this information publicly available immediately, such as strategic delays by legislative leadership. Scanlan also confirmed that the tracking is done manually and not electronically, and while digitization is possible, the current system has been effective.
HB157: Representative Richards Information Only01:44:00.000 - 9:48:06 AM; Representative Richards asked logistical questions about the tracking of bills during the enrolled bills process. He inquired about the mechanism used to keep track of bills and whether it was maintained electronically. Scanlan responded that the tracking is done manually and not electronically, which could lead to potential issues like loss due to unforeseen events like a pipe bursting. Richards highlighted the potential risks of the current paper-based system.
HB157: Representative Weight Information Only01:46:00.080 - 9:50:06 AM; Representative Weight questioned the rationale behind using a paper-based system for tracking bills and suggested digitizing the process to avoid issues like bills getting lost. Scanlan acknowledged that digitization is possible but noted that the current paper-based system has been effective over generations. He emphasized that his office does not delay bills and that the existing process works well, though he acknowledged that a digital system could be an improvement.
HB157: Representative Payer Information Only01:49:08.320 - 9:53:14 AM; Representative Payer inquired about the status of HB157, mentioning that the bill had passed unanimously in the House the previous year but was killed in the Senate. They speculated on the reasons behind the Senate's decision but lacked concrete information, suggesting a follow-up with Representative Weber.
HB157: Clerk of the House Support01:49:57.360 - 9:54:03 AM; The Clerk of the House supported the bill, emphasizing that it would enhance transparency in the legislative process. They detailed the current process of tracking bills through log books and spreadsheets, and suggested that adding columns to the Secretary of State's website to show when bills are sent to the Speaker and Senate President would not be a significant burden. They highlighted instances where bills have been delayed, causing confusion and public inquiries, and argued that increased transparency would benefit constituents.
HB477: Representative Tersi Support02:01:09.840 - 10:05:15 AM; Representative Tersi introduced House Bill 477, which aims to establish a commission to study safety and security procedures in the State House complex. They expressed appreciation for the committee's time and apologized for any scheduling inconveniences.
HB477: Laura Tki, State Representative from Hillsborough 11, Nashua Ward 8 Support02:01:56.639 - 10:06:02 AM; Laura Tki presented House Bill 477, emphasizing the need for a commission to study safety and security in the State House complex. They recounted a personal experience with a police response to a shooting, underscoring the importance of proactive safety measures. The bill proposes a commission with diverse safety and security backgrounds to assess and recommend improvements in identification, visitor screening, emergency response, and access control. Tki addressed concerns about revealing security measures, suggesting that the commission could learn from other states without compromising current security protocols.
HB477: Alicia Greg, State Representative from Nashua Ward 7 Support02:13:40.079 - 10:17:46 AM; Alicia Greg supported House Bill 477, citing personal experiences with security concerns in committee meetings. They discussed incidents involving individuals posing security risks and the need for visible security measures as a deterrent. Greg highlighted the open nature of the State House and the potential vulnerabilities, advocating for increased security to protect legislators and the public.
HB477: Lauren C, State Representative from Durham, Strafford County District 10 Support02:19:51.240 - 10:23:57 AM; Lauren C expressed strong support for House Bill 477, sharing personal experiences with threats and security concerns. They praised the State House security team's efforts but stressed the need for a deeper dive into safety measures. C mentioned varying levels of security provided in other states and the necessity for New Hampshire to enhance its security protocols to ensure the safety of all involved.
HB477: Unnamed Speaker Information Only02:22:32.319 - 10:26:38 AM; The speaker addressed questions related to rules and clarified that the security of the institution falls under the Joint Legislative Facilities Committee, which is nonpartisan and responsible for the oversight of the building, including its security and the construction of new facilities. They mentioned ongoing security situation reviews and partnerships with Homeland Security, including drills. They also explained that within the chamber, security is under the direction of the speaker and the speaker's sergeant-at-arms, as per specific house rules.
HB477: Unnamed Speaker Information Only02:24:41.960 - 10:28:47 AM; The speaker responded to a question about the ability of the house to instruct the Joint Facilities Committee through rules, stating that the committee, established by statute, cannot be directed by house rules alone because it involves both the House and the Senate. They also mentioned ongoing security plans and renovations that would impact safety measures, indicating that such matters would be handled by the Joint Facilities Committee.
HB477: Unnamed Speaker Information Only02:26:33.160 - 10:30:39 AM; The speaker discussed how the Joint Facilities Committee decides on policies, such as those concerning what items are allowed within the building. They mentioned examples like the prohibition of wooden stakes attached to signs. They also suggested that the bill could be amended to direct the Joint Facilities Committee to undertake a review and consult with relevant parties instead of creating a new committee.
HB314: Representative Kelly Potenza, Strafford District 19 Support03:58:44.680 - 12:02:50 PM; Representative Penza introduced the bill, emphasizing that taxpayer-funded lobbying is undemocratic and infringes on taxpayers' free speech. She argued that it disadvantages citizens when contending with lobbyists hired by political subdivisions, often pushing agendas contrary to taxpayers' preferences. She cited examples of the New Hampshire Municipal Association's lobbying efforts, which she believes disproportionately support one political party over another. Penza explained that the bill aims to stop the use of taxpayer funds for lobbying by carving out the legislative lobbying aspect of organizations, while still allowing them to provide other services and resources.
HB314: Unknown Speaker Oppose04:10:01.680 - 12:14:07 PM; The speaker challenges Representative Kelly Penza on the opposition to HB314, citing a list of conservative-leaning towns such as Auburn, Allenstown, Bedford, Derry, Hillsborough, Londonderry, Plaistow, and Salem that oppose the bill. The speaker argues that these towns rely on the resources provided by organizations like the New Hampshire Municipal Association, which would be impacted by the bill. The speaker suggests that the opposition is based on the desire of government employees to continue taxpayer-funded lobbying efforts, which the speaker views as unconstitutional. The speaker emphasizes that public employees should engage in lobbying on their own time and dime, like other citizens, and not use public funds.
HB314: Unknown Speaker Oppose04:11:36.720 - 12:15:42 PM; The speaker continues to argue against the bill, stating that it violates the First Amendment by constituting compelled speech. The speaker clarifies that compelled speech occurs when the government forces individuals to express something against their will, which they argue is the case with public employees lobbying. The speaker contends that these employees are not representing their constituents but are making decisions independently, which undermines local governance and the democratic process.
HB314: Unknown Speaker Oppose04:13:08.000 - 12:17:14 PM; The speaker defends the role of associations like the New Hampshire Municipal Association in providing information and resources to cities and towns, which often lack the time and resources to delve deeply into legislative matters. The speaker argues that the bill could suppress information and hinder the ability of local governments to make informed decisions. The speaker suggests that if there is opposition to the use of funds for lobbying, it should be addressed through local town meetings and democratic processes rather than through legislation that restricts free speech.
HB314: Unknown Speaker Oppose04:14:40.399 - 12:18:46 PM; The speaker further opposes the bill by arguing that it unfairly restricts the use of public funds for lobbying, which they see as an essential service for local governments. The speaker raises a hypothetical scenario about the legality of representatives attending meetings at publicly funded venues, questioning whether such activities would be considered illegal under the new bill. The speaker challenges the scope of the bill, suggesting it could have unintended consequences on various forms of public engagement.
HB314: Unknown Speaker Information Only04:15:45.359 - 12:19:51 PM; The speaker seeks clarification on the scope of the bill, particularly the section that prohibits the use of public funds to influence legislation. The speaker asks if this includes public testimony from state employees, to which the response is that it does not, but it does apply to registered lobbyists and activities like social media posts that push for certain legislation.
HB314: Ann Marie Banfield, Parental Rights Advocate Support04:17:16.359 - 12:21:22 PM; Amry Banfield speaks in support of HB314, focusing on the issue of taxpayer-funded lobbying by school boards and administrators. Banfield argues that parents are unaware and often unhappy about their tax dollars being used to fund lobbyists who may not represent their interests. Banfield mentions specific instances where school administrators lobbied against bills that aimed to protect children from inappropriate content online. Banfield suggests an amendment to allocate the funds into a trust from which individuals with diverse viewpoints could draw to represent various interests, including those of parents and special needs students.
HB314: Margaret Burns, Executive Director, New Hampshire Municipal Association Oppose04:22:35.319 - 12:26:41 PM; Margaret Burns opposes HB314, arguing that it broadly prohibits speech related to the legislative process by anyone funded by public money. Burns explains that the bill's language is so broad that it could affect not only lobbyists but also local officials and others who rely on public funds for their activities. Burns highlights that the bill creates confusion and a chilling effect on speech, potentially banning any form of advocacy funded by public money. Burns also notes that the New Hampshire Municipal Association's advocacy is transparent and based on the interests of local governments, not partisan politics. Burns concludes by urging the committee to vote the bill as inexpedient to legislate, citing serious constitutional implications.
HB314: Unknown Speaker Information Only04:30:05.319 - 12:34:11 PM; The speaker, identified as a lawyer and former staff attorney for the New Hampshire Municipal Association, responds to a question about the legal implications of HB314. The speaker confirms having a legal background and states that the bill's potential ban on lobbying could be seen as a violation of the First Amendment, given that lobbying is considered protected speech.
HB314: William McKinny, New Hampshire Building Officials Association Oppose04:31:39.359 - 12:35:45 PM; William McKinny, representing the New Hampshire Building Officials Association, expressed opposition to House Bill 314. He highlighted the broad definition of 'lobbyist' in RSA 5:1 and referenced a past Attorney General's opinion that could include professional associations in the lobbying category, despite their primary intent being to educate rather than lobby. McKinny noted that many professional associations, including his, rely on membership fees from municipalities, which are publicly approved and transparent. He argued that HB314 could limit or prohibit the free speech of municipal employees and negatively impact the operations of professional associations that help keep costs down in New Hampshire. He emphasized that these associations often provide input on legislation affecting building and life safety codes, and that smaller communities depend on such associations for representation.
HB314: Katherine Barby, New Hampshire Registry of Deeds Association Oppose04:36:55.320 - 12:41:01 PM; Katherine Barby, President of the New Hampshire Registry of Deeds Association, stated that the association unanimously opposes House Bill 314. She argued that the bill could censor those with the most information on proposed legislation, specifically impacting the registries of deeds. Barby mentioned that providing information on bills is part of their sworn duty and that the bill could hinder this responsibility. She cited examples of the association's contributions to legislative discussions on transfer on death deeds and a landlord registry. Barby believes HB314 might muzzle those best equipped to provide information, thus impacting informed decision-making, and requested the bill be voted as inexpedient to legislate.
HB314: Jason Henry, Rockingham County Jail, New Hampshire Association of Counties Oppose04:41:13.360 - 12:45:19 PM; Jason Henry, Superintendent of Rockingham County Jail and legislative chair for the New Hampshire Association of Counties, expressed opposition to House Bill 314. He was concerned about the bill's language that could criminalize influencing legislation, potentially affecting appointed officials like himself. Henry explained that his association and others meet to discuss bills, vote on positions, and provide expert testimony to the legislature. He argued that the bill could stifle the flow of valuable information to legislators and noted the Association of Counties' historical opposition to similar bills.
HB314: Representative Bill M, Hillsborough 10, City of Nashua Information Only04:47:15.760 - 12:51:21 PM; Representative Bill M from Hillsborough 10, Nashua, discussed the need for an amendment to House Bill 314. He noted that the original bill was not effective and that a new amendment simplifies it to focus on disclosing campaign contributions of $1,000 or more. He pointed out that new legislation effective January of the current year addresses most of his concerns, specifically mentioning Section 664:6 which requires reporting contributions within 48 hours. The only remaining issue is the potential for the Secretary of State's office to provide a summary of these reports to the public without excessive administrative burden.
HB314 2025-0253: Aaron Hennessy, Deputy Secretary of State Information Only04:50:09.958 - 12:54:15 PM; Aaron Hennessy, the Deputy Secretary of State, discussed the implications of the proposed amendment 2025-0253 to HB314. He explained that the previous year, the House Election Law Committee had worked on simplifying campaign finance reporting under chapter 664. He noted that the amendment intended to require reporting of a $1,000 contribution received between December and January within 48 hours, a requirement that was previously removed by HB1091 of 2024. He pointed out that the current amendment's wording would only apply to candidates and not to political committees, suggesting a need for the amendment to also include political committees under section 664:6. Hennessy also raised concerns about the feasibility of the office generating monthly reports on these contributions due to current staffing and the manual nature of some reports, suggesting that electronic filing could help but would require system modifications at a cost.
HB314: Representative Turkot Information Only04:56:36.798 - 1:00:42 PM; Representative Turkot moved to retain HB314, which was seconded by Representative Shien. The motion to retain was based on the need for more time to consider potential amendments, especially given that it is an FN (fiscal note) bill. The retention would allow the bill to be considered in the next term and potentially be sent to another committee, such as Criminal Justice, rather than Finance.
HB314: Unnamed Representative Information Only04:58:33.760 - 1:02:39 PM; An unnamed representative expressed concerns about the timing of working on HB314, indicating that it would not be addressed until the committee moves to another building, likely in September.
HB314: Representative Payer Information Only04:59:20.878 - 1:03:26 PM; Representative Payer inquired about which second committee HB314 might be sent to, with a suggestion that it could be Criminal Justice rather than Finance, indicating his least favorite aspect of the bill.
HB314: Ellen Reed, Representative for Rockingham 10, Newmarket and Newfields Support05:01:12.600 - 1:05:18 PM; Representative Ellen Reed spoke in support of HB314, which aims to address the Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) program and the ability of state legislators to count their service towards this federal program. Reed detailed the PSLF program's purpose, which was established under the George W. Bush administration to encourage young people into public service by forgiving federal student loan balances after 120 on-time payments while employed in public service. She highlighted that New Hampshire state legislators are not currently certified for this program due to the argument that they are not employees but elected officials. Reed argued that despite the minimal compensation of $200 per term, state legislators are considered employees by the federal government, as evidenced by the W-2 forms they receive. She emphasized the importance of certifying state legislators' service to encourage younger and working-class individuals to participate in the legislature, which currently lacks diversity due to financial barriers. Additionally, she touched on a second part of the bill, which would protect legislators from employer retaliation for attending legislative duties, suggesting this would further enable working people to serve. Reed responded to questions about the certification process in other states and confirmed that her own student loans were forgiven through other public service roles, not her legislative service.
HB314: Paul Smith, Clerk of the House Information Only05:22:27.520 - 1:26:33 PM; Paul Smith, the Clerk of the House, provided clarification on the Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF) program regarding state legislators' service. He mentioned that he had reached out to other states' clerks and received responses indicating that several states, including Florida, Maine, Hawaii, Vermont, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Kansas, Alabama, Washington, Minnesota, Texas, California, Wyoming, and Louisiana, count their legislators' service towards PSLF. Kentucky and New Mexico do not, with New Mexico not paying their legislators at all. Smith noted that in many states, the decision to certify legislators for PSLF was made administratively without the need for legislation. He mentioned his personal experience with PSLF and emphasized that the bill directing him to fill out certification forms would provide clear guidance to legislative staff. He clarified that he had no information regarding the bill's second component concerning employer retaliation.
HB314: John Garan Information Only05:30:15.120 - 1:34:21 PM; John Garan introduced himself but did not provide further testimony in the provided transcript snippet.
HB314: General Counsel at the Department of Labor Information Only05:30:19.000 - 1:34:25 PM; The general counsel from the Department of Labor provided information on the enforcement aspects of the employment and non-discharge parts of the bill. They clarified that the Department does not take a position on Public Service Loan Forgiveness. Under RSA 273:11, a first-time violation of the proposed language would result in a warning with 30 days to correct, and subsequent violations could lead to a civil penalty of up to $2500. They compared this bill to HB 347, noting that HB 347 needed amendments to include investigative authority, whereas HB 314 includes the violation within RSA 275, which already has investigative and penalty authority. No technical corrections were suggested for HB 314.
HR8: Representative Len Turkot, representing Barrington and Strafford, Strafford County District 4 Information Only05:35:51.760 - 1:39:57 PM; Representative Len Turkot introduced House Resolution 8 on behalf of Representative Belcher, who was hospitalized and unable to attend. Turkot stated he did not know enough about the bill to speak on it in detail but mentioned it deals with the New Hampshire Supreme Court's decision to place a justice on paid leave and the question of whether the court has the authority to do so, especially if it could be seen as a form of impeachment, which is a legislative power. He also raised concerns about the effectiveness of house resolutions that do not go to the Senate. Turkot mentioned he would provide additional information from the House Counsel regarding a relevant court case.
HB118: Representative Len Turkot, representing Barrington and Strafford, Strafford County District 4 Information Only05:40:45.920 - 1:44:51 PM; Representative Len Turkot introduced an amendment for HB118, which proposes to repeal certain committees and commissions. He explained that the House and Senate have around 300 to 400 committees and commissions, and the Deputy Speaker identifies those that have outlived their usefulness or have not met in years. The hearing was to discuss the potential repeal of about 10 or 11 such entities.
HB118: Maryanne, Chair of the New Hampshire Child Care Advisory Council Oppose05:43:52.760 - 1:47:58 PM; Maryanne, the Chair of the New Hampshire Child Care Advisory Council, expressed surprise and opposition to their inclusion on the list for potential repeal. She explained that the council is active, meeting six times a year, and has been instrumental during the pandemic in helping childcare providers access funds and streamline licensing rules to ensure safety without impeding access. The council also reports annually to the House oversight committee. She was unsure why the council was on the list for repeal but mentioned their ongoing strategic planning process to better serve current needs.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:49:58.120 - 1:54:04 PM; The speaker inquired about the language in the bill, specifically regarding the use of 'relative to' and the repeal mentioned on page two, line eight. They expressed confusion over the clarity of the repeal section and sought further clarification. The discussion turned into a working session as the committee tried to piece together the bill's intent.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:50:43.478 - 1:54:49 PM; The speaker continued the discussion on the bill's language, confirming the presence of a repeal but expressing uncertainty about their previous statements. They mentioned that key members knowledgeable about the bill were absent due to illness or other commitments, which left the committee at a loss and relying on supposition.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:51:52.080 - 1:55:58 PM; The speaker sought information about the frequency and reporting of the Child Care Advisory Council's meetings. They confirmed that the council meets six times a year, records meetings, and provides minutes on their website and the Early Learning New Hampshire website. Reports are also given to the House Oversight Committee annually, and the council responds to inquiries from the Child Development Bureau.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:53:17.520 - 1:57:23 PM; The speaker expressed satisfaction that the Child Care Advisory Council is active, meeting six times a year and reporting to the House Oversight Committee. They noted the council's engagement compared to other dormant commissions.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:54:07.400 - 1:58:13 PM; The speaker asked about the attendance of the legislator members on the council, noting that Senator Whitley was active but no House representative has attended recently. They explained that the meetings are held on Thursdays, which coincide with House session days, impacting attendance.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Information Only05:54:19.760 - 1:58:25 PM; The speaker questioned the clarity of the repeal language in the bill and asked about the speaker's involvement in the child care industry. The speaker confirmed being the chair of the Child Care Advisory Council without remuneration and mentioned their role as the executive director of daycare services in the Concord area. They agreed to provide information on voting and non-voting members and their involvement in child care.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Oppose05:55:41.320 - 1:59:47 PM; The speaker expressed concerns about the potential repeal of the Child Care Advisory Council. They discussed the council's role in providing a voice for child care providers and their disagreements with the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) on various issues like licensing regulations, funding, and quality initiatives. They feared that a council formed by DHHS might prioritize their agendas over the needs of providers.
HB118: Shannon Tremblay, Director of the Child Care Advisory Council Information Only05:58:48.878 - 2:02:54 PM; Shannon Tremblay provided information on the membership of the Child Care Advisory Council, stating there are 16 voting members and three non-voting members from DHHS and the Bureau of Child Care Licensing. They clarified that no members are from the child care industry. They also addressed a question about the council's ability to add members, noting it is unusual for a legislative committee but part of their bylaws.
HB118: Unidentified Speaker Information Only06:01:57.718 - 2:06:03 PM; The speaker mentioned the upcoming executive session and the need to meet with Deborah Charles, Deputy Chief of Staff, before executing any decisions. They discussed the scheduling of the executive session on the 12th and the need to consider potential session day conflicts and the deadlines for reporting.

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