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enabling electric utilities to own, operate, and offer advanced nuclear resources, and relative to purchased power agreements for electric distribution utilities and limitations on community customer generators.
(New Title) relative to relative to the participation of large customer-generators in net metering and relative to energy storage in connection with net metering.
Welcomes everyone, leads pledge, announces executive session on eight Senate bills including three early bills (SB 538FN, SB 540FN, SB 590) that must be completed today, introduces visitors Rep. Connie Lane and Rep. Fred Davis, outlines plan for caucus break around 9:30.
Unclear
Information Only00:06:09.424 - 9:04:15 AM
Announces details for May 11th hydroelectric facilities tour: no van provided, meet at 9:30 at Moore Dam requiring ID, proceed to Wilder Dam, lunch provided, end around 2:30, encourages carpooling, driving time about 1.5 hours from Concord.
Unclear
Information Only00:07:21.784 - 9:05:27 AM
Proposes committee lunch in late May at Angelina's, invites suggestions, mentions possible morning activity, invites staff.
Unclear
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Will check if Angelina's is open on Monday and organize the lunch.
SB447
Oppose00:10:04.658 - 9:08:10 AM
Opens executive session on SB 447, moves for ITL, notes bill was hastily assembled in Senate with omissions and extraneous additions, prefers HB 221 for committee of conference.
SB447
Oppose00:11:31.658 - 9:09:37 AM
Seconds the motion for ITL.
SB447
Oppose00:11:31.658 - 9:09:37 AM
Explains ITL due to bill's mishmash nature and preference for HB 221.
SB447
Oppose00:12:51.378 - 9:10:57 AM
Opposes bill, criticizes claims of low-cost nuclear, objects to DOE outreach on nuclear safety, opposes expanding net metering to 500 kW and nonprofits.
SB447
Oppose00:13:51.818 - 9:11:57 AM
Supports ITL, notes bill as catch-all, prefers HB 221 for discussions.
SB447
Oppose00:15:00.981 - 9:13:06 AM
Agrees with ITL, clarifies not anti-nuclear but bill not suitable vehicle.
SB447
Information Only00:15:00.981 - 9:13:06 AM
Acknowledges some net metering provisions favorable to stakeholders but understands not preferred vehicle.
SB447
Vote00:16:18.784 - 9:14:24 AM
Calls roll on ITL motion; all members vote yes (18-0).
SB447
Vote00:17:12.431 - 9:15:18 AM
Announces adoption of ITL on SB 447 by 18-0 vote, will author report on consent.
SB589
Support00:17:12.431 - 9:15:18 AM
Opens executive session on SB 589 FN, recognizes Rep. McGee for motion.
SB589
Support00:18:15.956 - 9:16:21 AM
Moves to recommend Ought to Pass as Amended.
SB589
Support00:18:15.956 - 9:16:21 AM
Seconds the motion.
SB589 1412H
Support00:18:56.201 - 9:17:02 AM
Presents amendment 1385H for SB 589 FN, explains that it incorporates the Senate amendment by Senator Waters adding electric distribution utilities to the list and a new section two on line 14 for clarification requested by Heidi Kroll. Proposes passing the bill OTPA with this amendment after discussion with the chairman.
SB589 1412H
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Notes confusion in the amendments, mentioning that the Hydropower Association requested language exempting certain FERC-regulated entities from cybersecurity regulations, and questions if it was incorporated into the new amendment.
SB589 1412H
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Points out a slight typo in the amendment where section numbering was not properly adjusted; the addition for the Hydropower Association was included but the existing section two was not renumbered to three, resulting in two section twos. Introduces amendment 1412H which includes the new section two exempting generation devices licensed by FERC.
SB589 1412H
Support00:22:33.759 - 9:20:39 AM
Withdraws the motion to adopt amendment 1385H and proposes adopting amendment 1412H instead.
SB589 1412H
Support00:22:33.759 - 9:20:39 AM
Seconds the motion to adopt amendment 1412H.
SB589 1412H
Information Only00:23:19.040 - 9:21:25 AM
Opens discussion on the motion to adopt amendment 1412H and asks Rep. McGee to explain it again.
SB589 1412H
Support00:23:19.040 - 9:21:25 AM
Apologizes for the confusion, explains that amendment 1412H inserts the clarifying language on line 14 as requested by Heidi Kroll, notes the numbering typo where there are two section twos (to be fixed by OLS during enrollment), and confirms this aligns with prior discussions for passing SB 589.
SB589 1412H
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Comments and asks questions about the changes in the amendment, confirming the additions on lines 14-15 and 7-8 (adding electric distribution utilities), and verifies that it has been reviewed and approved by Commissioner Scott and Senator Waters.
SB589 1412H
Information Only00:24:37.420 - 9:22:43 AM
Seeks clarification on the procedure for the withdrawn amendment 1385H, learning that it will be discarded.
SB589 1412H
Vote00:26:07.745 - 9:24:13 AM
Roll call on adoption of amendment 1412H results in unanimous yes votes from all 18 committee members: Vice Chair Thomas, Rep. Nodder, Rep. Harrington, Rep. Ploge, Rep. Bernardi, Rep. Summers, Rep. Matson, Rep. Schneller, Rep. Savoie-Ducheneur, Rep. McGee, Rep. Parshall, Rep. Kaplan, Rep. Corman, Rep. Lane, Rep. LaRochelle, Rep. Swanson, Rep. Davis, Chairman Vos.
SB589 1412H
Support00:26:07.745 - 9:24:13 AM
Moves to pass SB 589 FN OTPA with the adopted amendment.
SB589 1412H
Support00:26:07.745 - 9:24:13 AM
Seconds the motion to pass SB 589 FN OTPA.
SB589 1412H
Support00:26:07.745 - 9:24:13 AM
Notes that no further discussion is needed, emphasizes the necessity of the cybersecurity changes especially for water and wastewater treatment plants, and praises the bill as excellent with the amendment.
SB589 1412H
Vote00:27:34.285 - 9:25:40 AM
Roll call on the motion to pass SB 589 FN OTPA with amendment 1412H results in unanimous yes votes from all 18 committee members: Vice Chair Thomas, Rep. Nodder, Rep. Harrington, Rep. Plouget, Rep. Bernardi, Rep. Summers, Rep. Matson, Rep. Schneller, Rep. Sabourin-Ducheneur, Rep. McGee, Rep. Parshall, Rep. Kaplan, Rep. Corman, Rep. Lane, Rep. LaRochelle, Rep. Swanson, Rep. Davis, Chairman Bowes.
SB589 1412H
Information Only00:28:52.939 - 9:26:58 AM
Assigns Rep. McGee to author the committee report, initially suggests placing on consent calendar without objection given the negligible FN, but decides against it to be safe, then closes the executive session on the bill.
SB449
Oppose01:26:44.829 - 10:24:50 AM
Makes motion for ITL, explains that the House indefinitely postponed a similar bill earlier, Senate changes made it worse and unworkable per Department of Energy, no reason to move forward.
SB449
Oppose01:26:44.829 - 10:24:50 AM
Seconds the motion for ITL.
SB449
Support01:28:06.003 - 10:26:12 AM
Opposes ITL, notes testimony from businesses and BIA wanting the bill to lower costs, mentions amendment 1439H that restores language from HB 1718, believes bill should pass with amendment.
SB449
Support01:28:06.003 - 10:26:12 AM
Echoes opposition to ITL, emphasizes benefits for business community to lower costs and remain competitive in NH with high electricity rates, calls it a shame not to support.
SB449
Oppose01:29:27.949 - 10:27:33 AM
Supports ITL, states net metering subsidy for large-scale users paid by ratepayers is inappropriate wealth transfer, DOE said bill unworkable.
SB449
Oppose01:29:27.949 - 10:27:33 AM
Reminds that nothing prevents installing solar arrays without the bill, implies subsidy sought from ratepayers.
SB449
Support01:30:45.869 - 10:28:51 AM
Opposes ITL, discusses value of net metering, industry needs help with high energy costs, bill keeps coming back because businesses need it, suggests amending to make workable rather than ITL.
SB449
Support01:31:58.077 - 10:30:04 AM
Supports bill, shares personal experience with solar and battery storage, notes businesses would pay upfront, ratepayers benefit from solar and storage systems, NH businesses want this.
SB449
Oppose01:33:13.529 - 10:31:19 AM
Highlights risks of large 5MW systems causing power swings if shut down for maintenance without notice, no obligation to provide power, system must deliver when not generating.
SB449
Vote01:35:34.250 - 10:33:40 AM
Calls roll on ITL motion: 10 yes (ITL), 8 no. Majority adopts ITL, Chairman writes report. Minority OTPA by Rep. McGee.
SB590
Support01:37:03.644 - 10:35:09 AM
Makes motion for OTP.
SB590
Support01:37:03.644 - 10:35:09 AM
Seconds motion for OTP.
SB590
Information Only01:38:14.135 - 10:36:20 AM
Testified against bill due to concerns from town committee experience with community power and potential misuse of funds for projects, but understands statute prevents it, still has reservations but won't fight it.
SB590
Vote01:39:28.208 - 10:37:34 AM
Calls roll on OTP: 17 yes, 1 no (Rep. Naughter). Adopts OTP, Rep. LaRochelle writes report, goes on consent.
SB591
Support01:40:50.981 - 10:38:56 AM
Makes motion for OTP.
SB591
Support01:40:50.981 - 10:38:56 AM
Seconds motion for OTP.
SB591
Oppose01:42:04.624 - 10:40:10 AM
Notes bill spurred discussion, utilities have 6% for distributed generation not exhausted, supports competitive market and keeping utilities out of generation, committee split but mostly oppose.
SB591
Oppose01:42:49.784 - 10:40:55 AM
Agrees with McGee, only one project built, no demand to increase from 6% to 10%, current restrictions heavy.
SB591
Support01:42:49.784 - 10:40:55 AM
Bill consistent with HB 1775 for micronuclear and small natural gas, extends to solar, wind, hydro, batteries, biomass up to 10%, opens door for utilities if needed, no cap on batteries, sends message to power producers.
SB591
Oppose01:43:59.244 - 10:42:05 AM
Agrees utilities not using 6%, deregulation kept them out of generation to avoid stranded costs, bill moves backwards.
SB591
Support01:45:12.044 - 10:43:18 AM
Narrow choice but supports, sends message to investors NH is open, no harm in bill.
SB591
Support01:46:29.564 - 10:44:35 AM
Agrees with Bernardi, bill agnostic on energy, allows indirect benefits to spur utility investment, unlike HB 1775 for nuclear/gas.
SB591
Support01:46:29.564 - 10:44:35 AM
Agrees with Bernardi, provides opportunities for more energy, enables competition ultimately.
SB591
Oppose01:47:37.244 - 10:45:43 AM
Agrees with Harrington, risks market distortion, stranded costs like Burgess plant, discourages private investment, could slow clean energy.
SB591
Support01:48:41.440 - 10:46:47 AM
Likes distributed energy for reducing transmission needs, line loss, increases resiliency, local, enabling legislation.
SB591
Oppose01:49:51.875 - 10:47:57 AM
Clarifies HB 1775 increased to 10% for gas/nuclear under distributed energy, this shares 10% with others, but utilities get guaranteed return distorting market, bad policy despite wanting distributed resources.
SB591
Vote01:52:18.104 - 10:50:24 AM
Calls roll on OTP: 11 yes, 7 no. Adopts OTP, Rep. Bernardi writes majority, Rep. Corman minority ITL.
SB599
Support01:53:47.123 - 10:51:53 AM
Makes motion for OTP, describes as more than housekeeping, favors bill as it journals $1M for DOE administrative costs including emerging innovation.
SB599
Support01:54:39.182 - 10:52:45 AM
Seconds motion for OTP.
SB599
Support01:55:34.422 - 10:53:40 AM
The speaker praises the progress of the energy innovation department and notes that the bill sweeps excess funds over one million dollars into the general fund while allowing some funding for thermal and electrical renewables to remain in the DOE. They state that the four million dollars effectively plugs a hole in the general fund and express favor for the legislation for that reason.
SB599
Oppose01:56:47.646 - 10:54:53 AM
Representative Corman highlights a conflict with HB 1542, noting that it rebates funds to ratepayers, creating a 'last wins' issue in implementation. They express uncertainty and lack of favor for either bill, and mention questions about constitutionality.
SB599
Information Only01:57:42.638 - 10:55:48 AM
The speaker clarifies that HB 1542 has an effective date of January 1, 2027 or 2028, affecting the next biennium, while SB 599 affects the current biennium. They read an opinion from House Attorney Jim Cianci, who presumes constitutionality, notes no obvious issues, references the fiscal note indicating no fiscal impact as the budget already assumed this allocation, and mentions past similar transfers without challenge.
SB599
Oppose01:59:59.135 - 10:58:05 AM
Representative Swanson emphasizes the importance of moving money to the general fund given the decline in cash investments and net assets. However, they argue that the funds were collected from ratepayers under the pretense of renewable energy investment, making the redirection a deceit despite the attorney's opinion, and declare no on Ought to Pass.
SB599
Oppose02:01:22.586 - 10:59:28 AM
Representative Parshall cites New Hampshire jurisprudence that fees must be incidental to regulation and not for revenue, arguing that the bill opens the state to prolonged court cases, especially with existing redirected fees under jeopardy, and states they will not support the bill.
SB599
Vote02:02:26.643 - 11:00:32 AM
The committee votes on the motion for Ought to Pass on SB 599 FN. Yes votes: Representative Nodder, Harrington, Pelosi, Bernardi, Summers, Mattson, Schneller, Sabor and Dicioneer, Chairman. No votes: Representative McGee, Parshall, Kaplan, Corman, Lane, La Rochelle, Davis. The motion passes 10-8. Representative Schneller to write majority opinion; Representative Parshall to write minority report for Inexpedient to Legislate, due by 5 p.m.
SB540 1452h
Information Only02:04:01.076 - 11:02:07 AM
The chair moves for interim study on SB 540 FN relative to solar generation devices and recognizes Representative Harrington.
SB540 1452h
Support02:04:52.771 - 11:02:58 AM
Representative Harrington seconds the motion for interim study, expressing reluctance after two months of work on the bill. They note a replace all amendment improves the bill but does not fix the fundamental enforcement problem. They explain that plug-in solar devices are already available and purchasable, and the bill aims to address safety dangers by requiring certification, but lacks enforcement mechanisms. They suggest interim study as the best option since adopting the amendment would not solve safety issues effectively, though they invite other ideas.
SB540 1452h
Oppose02:07:23.394 - 11:05:29 AM
Representative Corman opposes interim study, arguing it delays action for a year. They describe their undrafted amendment, based on hearing testimony, which requires plug-in solar devices to meet State Building Code Review Board requirements once established, referencing UL 3700 standard, net metering credits, landlord prohibitions, technical considerations like ground fault circuits, utility notifications, and updated terminology. They emphasize putting statutory requirements in place despite enforcement challenges, without creating misdemeanors.
SB540 1452h
Information Only02:10:47.601 - 11:08:53 AM
Representative Bernardi asks if the amendment addresses backflow issues during power outages and alignment impacts, and whether it aligns with UL 3700.
SB540 1452h
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Representative Nodder asks what happens if someone buys a device and does not notify the utility.
SB540 1452h
Support02:14:18.138 - 11:12:24 AM
Vice Chair Thomas agrees on enforceability issues but supports some bill to provide groundwork, having favored a previous amendment despite holes. They prefer to review Representative Corman's amendment before voting and want something on the docket to address existing devices without over-regulation.
SB540 1452h
Information Only02:15:22.238 - 11:13:28 AM
The chair passes out amendment 1452H, a replace all amendment created with input from Philip Sherman, Sam Evans-Brown, NH DES, and NH DOE. It defines plug-in solar generation systems, lists exemptions, and requires certification by a nationally recognized testing laboratory.
SB540 1452h
Information Only02:16:14.588 - 11:14:20 AM
Explains the details of the amendment, including references to nationally recognized testing laboratories like UL3700, utility notification methods, no requirement for approval or fees, maximum one system per metered customer with 1,200 watts output, DOE website information, building code amendments, liability protections, rulemaking for interconnection, and contingency on certification of standards.
SB540 1452h
Support02:20:53.778 - 11:18:59 AM
Supports adopting the amendment, argues that enforcement is not the bill's purpose but to lower costs via simple solar generation. Opposes interim study to avoid delays, notes inclusion of landlord opt-out, and urges expediting the amendment through OLS.
SB540 1452h
Oppose02:21:57.498 - 11:20:03 AM
Raises safety concerns distinguishing plug-in solar from emergency generators, including backfeeding risks, meter inaccuracies, circuit overloads, enforcement challenges with uncertified imports, and lack of user instructions. Suggests more rigorous study by DOE and public awareness via electric bills rather than passing feel-good legislation.
SB540 1452h
Support02:24:48.258 - 11:22:54 AM
Corrects that UL-approved devices include anti-islanding per UL3700, notes UL3700 availability and purpose for safety. Argues enforcement issues persist regardless, and passing standards provides groundwork for safe use, addressing safety concerns through UL standards.
SB540 1452h
Information Only02:26:53.962 - 11:24:59 AM
Withdraws motion for interim study after reviewing the amendment, agrees it's a good groundwork for future even without current enforcement.
SB540 1452h
Support02:28:10.790 - 11:26:16 AM
Withdraws support for interim study after hearing discussion, endorses moving forward.
SB538 1462H
Information Only02:37:05.965 - 11:35:11 AM
Opens executive session, moves ought to pass as amended with Amendment 1462H, explains rewrite of section 2A for simplification based on Senator Waters' suggestion, and introduces sections 2B, 2C, 2D added at Representative Summers' suggestion.
SB538 1462H
Support02:38:43.949 - 11:36:49 AM
Explains additions in sections 2B, 2C, 2D (lines 18-29) addressing environmental hazardous materials in solar panels and wind turbines, requiring companies to provide 150% escrow for out-of-state recycling of non-recyclable chemicals like cadmium telluride or BPA, tied to municipal projects without blocking net metering.
SB538 1462H
Support02:40:10.010 - 11:38:16 AM
Supports the amendment as it addresses disposability of products like solar and wind components, setting up a procedure for hazardous material disposal, similar to other products.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:41:21.430 - 11:39:27 AM
Appreciates concern for recyclability but opposes adding these provisions in executive session without public hearing; suggests passing the bill and amending later for waste reduction.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:42:29.130 - 11:40:35 AM
Notes the amendment requires owner/operator to have 150% letter of credit for removal costs, shifting burden from producers; lowers tariff from 20 to 15 years, reducing economic benefits for municipalities.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:43:43.650 - 11:41:49 AM
Cadmium telluride is common in solar panels; restriction not driven by waste management needs, unlike PFAs; sees it as attempt to undermine photovoltaics and wind projects.
SB538 1462H
Information Only02:45:02.175 - 11:43:08 AM
Less concerned about solar panels as most use crystalline silicon, not cadmium telluride; wind blades often use BPA but modern designs avoid it; objects to 15-year term as standard financing is 20 years, but research shows 15 years aligns with policies and is norm.
SB538 1462H
Support02:46:20.975 - 11:44:26 AM
15 years correlates with useful life and financial norms, appropriate from finance perspective, setting aside environmental concerns.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:47:40.735 - 11:45:46 AM
Amendment favors fossil fuels; coal produces far more waste than solar; prefers 20 years for alternative bonding options and resources for financers and ratepayers.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:48:48.215 - 11:46:54 AM
Section 2C burdens owner with specific decommissioning costs, a poison pill; combined with 15-year tariff, harms bill; mentions cleaner amendment available keeping 20 years.
SB538 1462H
Information Only02:50:10.642 - 11:48:16 AM
Lenders underwrite based on credit and policy stability; net metering seen as weaker, so 15 years conservative but tariff should be 20 years for solid indicator and flexibility.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:53:45.905 - 11:51:51 AM
15 vs 20 not showstopper initially but sections 2B and 2C are poison pills adding unhelpful regulation.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:55:06.543 - 11:53:12 AM
Concerns about BPA in wind blades; questions environmental fate and biodegradability; does not support until more known, as issue was leaching into food, not landfill.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:56:14.830 - 11:54:20 AM
If concerned about environmental impact, need thorough bill for all projects, not just municipal; amendment ideologically driven to kill program amid high energy costs.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:57:21.090 - 11:55:27 AM
BPA biodegradable with half-life of 5 days; imposes different standards on renewables vs fossil fuels.
SB538 1462H
Oppose02:58:36.877 - 11:56:42 AM
Inconsistent to apply to municipal but not private solar; debate on contamination; moved too fast without full consideration.
SB538 1462H
Vote02:59:31.157 - 11:57:37 AM
Roll call on adoption of amendment 1462H: Yes - Vice Chair Thomas, Notter, Ploge, Bernardi, Summers, Matson, Schneller, Simon Deschenier, Chairman Bowes (9); No - Harrington, McGee, Partial, Kaplan, Corman, Laine, LaRochelle, Swanson, Davis (9). Amendment fails 9-9.
SB538 1453H
Information Only03:00:50.175 - 11:58:56 AM
Moves amendment 1453H, which changes financing from 20 to 15 years, simplifies language, removes sections 2B-2D.
SB538 1453H
Oppose03:01:47.200 - 11:59:53 AM
Opposes reducing to 15 years; municipalities need 20 years for ROI and economic relief.
SB538 1453H
Information Only03:02:33.505 - 12:00:39 PM
Disagrees, citing industry data for 15-year terms.
SB538 1453H
Support03:03:53.654 - 12:01:59 PM
Disappointed previous amendment failed; supports 15 years based on research.
SB538 1453H
Support03:05:01.989 - 12:03:07 PM
Supports to show open for business; not opposed to producer responsibility but not here; questions 5-year difference as it affects ratepayers.
SB538 1453H
Support03:06:02.229 - 12:04:08 PM
Pleased with simplified version; okay with 15 vs 20, net benefit positive.
SB538 1453H
Support03:07:27.949 - 12:05:33 PM
Does not see how 15 vs 20 benefits ratepayers more; accepts 15 years as industry norm.
SB538 1453H
Oppose03:08:45.989 - 12:06:51 PM
Cites testimony on losses for projects like Rockingham County if reduced to 15 years; need to understand financial impact on existing projects.
SB538 1453H
Information Only03:10:00.949 - 12:08:06 PM
Clarifies testifier used example, not actual loss for Rockingham as it's paid for.
SB538 1453H
Oppose03:11:14.549 - 12:09:20 PM
20 years standard and beneficial; should allow municipalities flexibility for 20 if possible.
SB538 1453H
Vote03:12:44.997 - 12:10:50 PM
Roll call on adoption of amendment 1453H: Yes - Thomas, Nodder, Harrington, Ploge, Bernardi, Summers, Matson, Schneller, Savorne Duchennere, Corman, Lane, LaRochelle (12); No - McGee, Partial, Caplan (6). Amendment adopts 12-6.
SB538
Support03:13:30.916 - 12:11:36 PM
Votes yes but conflicted on 15-year bonding; supports basic concept, needs continued conversation.
SB538
Vote03:14:47.256 - 12:12:53 PM
Roll call on ought to pass as amended: All Yes (18-0). Motion adopts.
SB538
Information Only03:14:47.256 - 12:12:53 PM
Early bill with FN, not on consent; will write report; closes executive session on SB 538.
SB540 1452H
Information Only04:07:50.987 - 1:05:56 PM
Outlines utility concerns: non-net metered meters charge for inadvertent exports as usage; amendment limits only T&D charges, prefers broader language to collect any fees; interrelated to 1200 watt limit to right-size and avoid exports.
SB540 1452H
Information Only04:11:54.168 - 1:10:00 PM
Questions how charges work with competitive suppliers; confirms exports register as usage.
SB540 1452H
Information Only04:12:48.728 - 1:10:54 PM
Notes solar offsets usage, so net benefit even with exports charged; confirms no net metering compensation.
SB540 1452H
Information Only04:14:09.718 - 1:12:15 PM
As buyer, informed of issues might still proceed.
SB540 1452H
Information Only04:15:27.006 - 1:13:33 PM
Concerns: Amendment removes 1200 watt AC limit important for engineering to cap exports; prefers 'system' over 'device'; net metered customers adding device may trigger full interconnection; open to work further.
SB540 1452H
Information Only04:18:57.326 - 1:17:03 PM
Suggests adopting amendment 1452H from stakeholder group instead of Corman amendment; created collaboratively.
SB540 1452-H
Support04:19:50.646 - 1:17:56 PM
The Chairman notes that the amendment was agreed upon by all stakeholders after significant work and represents the best path forward. Suggests negotiating with the Senate for a committee of conference to add vetted items if needed.
SB540 1452-H
Support04:20:56.046 - 1:19:02 PM
Agrees with the proposed path forward. Mentions that on line 30 of page 2, the IEEE should be corrected to Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, not Inc., and suggests updating it in committee of conference.
SB540 1452-H
Support04:22:03.467 - 1:20:09 PM
Agrees it's an excellent path forward but questions if a floor amendment could achieve the same as a committee of conference.
SB540 1452-H
Information Only04:22:03.467 - 1:20:09 PM
Explains that floor amendments longer than a paragraph are difficult to pass as they seem pulled out unexpectedly.
SB540 1452-H
Support04:22:03.467 - 1:20:09 PM
Concurs that floor amendments are challenging and discourages them, preferring a committee of conference.
SB540 1452-H
Support04:22:03.467 - 1:20:09 PM
Imagines a three-page floor amendment on electrical issues would not be popular. Likes his own amendment but is okay with the stakeholder amendment and adding more in committee of conference. Hopes to be part of the COC to ensure it's done right.
SB540 1452-H
Oppose04:24:39.628 - 1:22:45 PM
States they will be voting against the bill.
SB540 1452-H
Vote04:23:14.787 - 1:21:20 PM
Roll call on adoption of amendment 1452-H: All yes votes from Vice Chair Thomas, Representatives Notter, Harrington, Pellegiat, Bernardi, Somers, Mattson, Schneller, Devoran De Frauder, McGee, Parshall, Kaplan, Corman, Lane, LaRochelle, Davis, and Chairman Bowes. Vote: 17-0.
SB540 1452-H
Vote04:24:39.628 - 1:22:45 PM
Roll call on ought to pass as amended (OTPA) for SB 540: Yes from Vice Chair Thomas, Representatives Nodder, Harrington (no), Plauj, Bernardy, Summers, Matson, Schneller, Ciborne de Chignier, McGee, Parshall, Kaplan, Kormon, Lane, LaRochelle, Swanson, and Chairman Bowes. Vote: 16-1.
SB540 1452-H
Information Only04:26:01.436 - 1:24:07 PM
Will write the majority report. Notes it's an early bill that needs to go to another committee, likely finance. Cannot go on consent calendar due to fiscal note (FN). Explains early bills have deadlines for second committee referral.
SB540 1452-H
Information Only04:26:01.436 - 1:24:07 PM
Will write the minority report, due by 5 p.m.
SB540 1452-H
Information Only04:26:55.070 - 1:25:01 PM
Asks if early bills without FN are precluded from consent calendar and seeks clarification on process.
SB540 1452-H
Information Only04:26:55.070 - 1:25:01 PM
Confirms it has an FN. Explains early bill status means second committee referral with deadline. Could have gone on consent without FN but wouldn't be early bill.
SB540 1452-H
Information Only04:28:19.166 - 1:26:25 PM
Passes out information and asks for thoughts on First Monday (4th) or First Tuesday (5th) in May, settles on Cinco de Mayo (5th).
SB540 1452-H
Information Only04:29:08.828 - 1:27:14 PM
Informs the committee that mileage is approved for the field trip to the hydroelectric dam tour from Granite Place.