Committee Summary for House State-Federal Relations and Veterans Affairs (01/17/2025)

Bill/Time	Type	Title	Sponsor
Unclear 00:00:47.039 - 8:00:28 AM	General Working Session	Unclear
Unclear 00:12:56.959 - 8:12:37 AM	General Working Session	Unclear
HB55 04:03:00.040 - 12:02:41 PM	Public Hearing	(New Title) relative to the Selective Service Compliance Act.	Mannion, Tom(R)[A+]2024
HB104 04:44:57.920 - 12:44:38 PM	Public Hearing	relative to requiring an official declaration of war for the activation of the New Hampshire national guard in a foreign state.	Mannion, Tom(R)[A+]2024

Unclear: Committee Chair Information Only00:00:47.039 - 8:00:28 AM; The Committee Chair opened the session, noting the committee's usual punctuality and the absence of a few members who were on their way. They thanked those who arrived early and announced the agenda, which included a quick introduction of new members and staff before moving into the general meeting.
Unclear: Committee Chair Information Only00:05:55.039 - 8:05:36 AM; The Chair announced the start of the meeting at 0905, following the custom of beginning with the Pledge of Allegiance, led by new committee member Representative Hemingway. The Chair expressed anticipation for the day's learning and introduced the new researcher, Davis Allen.
Unclear: Davis Allen, Committee Researcher Information Only00:07:37.280 - 8:07:18 AM; Davis Allen, the new researcher for the committee, introduced himself. He explained his role as a nonpartisan researcher serving the entire committee, detailing how he would handle research requests through the chair to avoid duplication or partisan issues. He mentioned his educational background from Keene State College in history, Holocaust and genocide studies, and German. Davis also shared his professional experience with the New Hampshire Department of Labor, covering workers' compensation, boiler and elevator inspections, and wage and hour inspections.
Unclear: Committee Chair Information Only00:09:56.000 - 8:09:37 AM; The Chair welcomed Davis and mentioned the administrative assistant, Karen Kaki, praising their contributions to the committee's operations. The Chair noted the absence of some members who would catch up online and reminded everyone of two upcoming bill hearings.
Unclear: Representative Hemingway Information Only00:11:00.399 - 8:10:41 AM; Representative Hemingway introduced himself as a first-term member, sharing his extensive military background with 38 years of service, including five overseas tours, two in combat zones. He mentioned his retirement from the New Hampshire National Guard in 2020 and his subsequent involvement in homeschooling his children. He also noted a recent interaction with the adjutant general at an inauguration.
Unclear: Philip Jones, Cheshire District 3, Keene, NH Information Only00:12:56.959 - 8:12:37 AM; Philip Jones, an independent manufacturer sales representative, introduced himself as a new member of the committee. He highlighted his extensive experience as an elected official, mentioning his 28 years on the Keene City Council and previous service on a New Jersey City Council and as mayor. He expressed appreciation for the committee's work and his enthusiasm for participating.
Unclear: Representative Gagney Information Only00:13:45.240 - 8:13:26 AM; Representative Gagney shared his personal background, noting his immigration from Canada in 1950, his 60-year marriage, and his retirement from the Postal Service in 2006. He detailed his military service in the Navy from 1961 to 1967, including deployments in the Mediterranean, Red Sea, and Yemen. Post-military, he worked in various jobs before settling at the Postal Service. He was encouraged to run for office in 2008, winning by a narrow margin, and has served on various committees, expressing his commitment to contributing to veterans' issues.
Unclear: Representative Skip Rollins, Newport, Unity, and Charlestown, NH Information Only00:16:59.759 - 8:16:40 AM; Representative Skip Rollins introduced himself as a returning member for his seventh term, mentioning his full-time job at L Valley Building Supply in Newport. He shared his journey into politics, noting that he was encouraged to run and was surprised to win his first election.
Unclear: Mike Moffett, Chair, originally from Groton, NH Information Only00:17:34.320 - 8:17:15 AM; Mike Moffett, the committee chair, shared his background, noting his origins in the North Country of New Hampshire and his educational and military career. He detailed his 25 years of service in the Marine Corps, including his time during Desert Storm and later assignments in Afghanistan. He also mentioned his long career in education, both in high schools and higher education institutions, and his previous role as Vice Chair before becoming Chair.
Unclear: Jennifer Mandelbaum, Portsmouth and Newington, NH Information Only00:19:14.000 - 8:18:55 AM; Jennifer Mandelbaum introduced herself as a healthcare researcher working on emerging trends in the industry. She expressed her gratitude to veterans for their service and her eagerness to learn more about veterans' issues, particularly relevant to her district which includes Pease in Newington.
Unclear: Christine Cybert, Manchester Ward 1, NH Information Only00:20:18.960 - 8:19:59 AM; Christine Cybert, as the ranking member, shared her personal connection to the military through her husband's service in the Navy. She emphasized the importance of supporting veterans, reflecting on her family's military history and her recent research into joining the Daughters of the American Revolution. She expressed her commitment to veterans' issues and appreciation for their service.
Unclear: Representative Lloyd, originally from Kansas, now in Nashua, NH Information Only00:22:40.919 - 8:22:21 AM; Representative Lloyd shared her background, moving from Kansas to New Hampshire in 2017, attracted by the state's mountains. She highlighted her family's military history, including her uncle's service as a tunnel rat in Vietnam and her father's work on SR-71s in the Air Force. She expressed her appreciation for the available veteran services and her happiness to be back on the committee.
Unclear: Tom Manion, Hillsborough Information Only00:24:42.279 - 8:24:23 AM; Tom Manion, originally from Hillsborough, shared his background of joining the Marine Corps after 9/11, driven by a desire to pursue those responsible for the attacks. He served in the infantry and was deployed to Iraq, which influenced his views on U.S. foreign policy and his political leanings. Manion highlighted his high ASVAB score, indicating his intellectual capabilities.
Unclear: Representative Belcher Information Only00:26:17.279 - 8:25:58 AM; Representative Belcher introduced himself as a new member of the committee, expressing his respect and appreciation for veterans despite not being one himself. He outlined his diverse background, including work as a paramedic and a teacher, and his current interest in education, politics, federalism, republican government, and domestic and foreign security threats.
Unclear: Shaj Budhathoki, Manchester, Hillsborough County District 40 Information Only00:27:07.279 - 8:26:48 AM; Shaj Budhathoki introduced himself as a refugee from Bhutan, having lived in New Hampshire since arriving in the U.S. 16 years ago. He shared his experiences of living as a refugee in Nepal and his journey to the U.S., where he now resides in Manchester. Budhathoki mentioned his involvement in local business, his family, and his ongoing PhD research in transformative social change, peace, and reconciliation.
Unclear: Lily Foss, Manchester Information Only00:29:31.440 - 8:29:12 AM; Lily Foss introduced herself as a representative from Manchester's Wards 2, 4, 5, and 7. She shared her deep roots in Manchester, mentioning her family's long history in the area and her great-grandmother's work at the VA. Foss also spoke about her father's military background in Portsmouth. She discussed her education in politics and international relations, her experience in AmeriCorps, and her current role in housing advocacy, particularly focused on veterans' housing and discrimination issues.
Unclear: Major General David Mikolaities, Portsmouth Information Only00:31:38.760 - 8:31:19 AM; Major General David Mikolaities, the Adjutant General for the New Hampshire National Guard and Commissioner of the Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services, provided an overview of the National Guard and veteran services in New Hampshire. He detailed the structure and operations of the National Guard, highlighting the strategic importance of the KC-46 refueler at Pease Air National Guard Base. Mikolaities discussed the Guard's missions, including deployments, domestic support, and community outreach programs like Starbase and Innovative Readiness Training. He also explained the consolidation of veteran services under the Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services, emphasizing the various programs and support available to veterans in the state, excluding healthcare which is provided by the VA and the Veterans Home.
Unclear: Major General David Mikolaities, Portsmouth Information Only00:31:38.760 - 8:31:19 AM; Major General David Mikolaities from Portsmouth provided an overview of the recruitment and retention challenges and successes within the National Guard. He noted that the International Guard is fully staffed, with all 1,68 positions filled, attributing this success to educational benefits and proximity to the University of New Hampshire. However, he highlighted that the Army Guard faces a 10% vacancy rate in its 1,757 positions. He discussed the impact of post-COVID recruitment, noting improvements in non-prior service enlistments but challenges with retention after the first term due to the nature of military service and the transition to a 401k retirement system. He appreciated legislative efforts to support retention, such as tuition waivers for spouses and state retention bonuses, but noted these have not been as impactful as hoped.
Unclear: Representative from Portsmouth Information Only00:45:33.760 - 8:45:14 AM; The representative from Portsmouth asked about the effectiveness of programs designed to aid National Guard recruitment and retention. Major General Mikolaities responded by detailing the full staffing of the International Guard and the challenges faced by the Army Guard, including recruitment and retention issues post-COVID. He emphasized the importance of legislative support in retention efforts and discussed the impact of new retirement systems on service members' decisions to reenlist.
Unclear: Representative Belzer Information Only00:50:18.319 - 8:49:59 AM; Representative Belzer inquired about overall recruitment and retention outlooks, specifically asking about surveys on reasons young people might not join and rejection rates for those trying to enlist. Major General Mikolaities explained that childhood obesity is a major barrier to recruitment, with only 17-19% of youth being eligible for military service due to fitness issues. He mentioned that retention challenges often arise after service members complete their first term, influenced by operational tempo and personal life events.
Unclear: Representative from Portsmouth Information Only00:54:00.559 - 8:53:41 AM; The representative from Portsmouth sought further details on the National Guard's international partnerships. Major General Mikolaities described the state partnership program's origins post-Cold War, aimed at fostering military engagements with Eastern Bloc countries and now expanded globally. He highlighted partnerships with El Salvador and Cabo Verde, emphasizing their role in promoting Western doctrine and deterring adversaries. He also mentioned collaborations with business and educational institutions to enhance these partnerships.
Unclear: Major General David Mikolaities, Portsmouth Information Only00:56:21.720 - 8:56:02 AM; Major General Mikolaities introduced the new Deputy Adjutant General, Nicole Des Bixler, and praised the work of his predecessor, Warren Perry. He humorously noted their shared disdain for the Navy and highlighted Des Bixler's background and her role in the Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services.
Unclear: Deputy Adjutant General Nicole Des Bixler, Concord Information Only00:57:56.960 - 8:57:37 AM; Deputy Adjutant General Nicole Des Bixler from Concord introduced herself, detailing her 30-year career in the Air Force and her transition to the New Hampshire National Guard. She explained her role as the deputy, overseeing the Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services, which includes managing various divisions and the business office responsible for administrative duties and budgeting.
Unclear: William GD, Director of the New Hampshire Division of Veteran Services, Navy Veteran Information Only01:02:48.960 - 9:02:29 AM; William GD, a Navy veteran and Director of the New Hampshire Division of Veteran Services, shared his personal journey into the role and the division's mission since its establishment in the 1940s. He explained the division's focus on assisting veterans with VA claims, particularly in compensation and pension, and highlighted their impact, serving about 9,000 clients and bringing approximately $100 million into the state annually. He also clarified the distinction between state service officers and those from veterans' organizations.
Unclear: Representative from Manchester Information Only01:07:26.000 - 9:07:07 AM; The representative from Manchester inquired about the role of post service officers in relation to the state's veteran services office. William GD explained that these officers are separate, working under their respective organizations but often collaborating with national service officers in Manchester. He emphasized the importance of veterans finding the right advocate for their needs.
Unclear: Representative Mandel Bomb Information Only01:10:03.600 - 9:09:44 AM; Representative Mandel Bomb asked about the property tax credit for veterans, specifically whether the amount is set by the state or determined by each city or town. William GD clarified that cities and towns have the discretion to set the credit amount within a range set by the state, typically influenced by fiscal considerations.
Unclear: Sean Buck, New Hampshire State Veterans Cemetery, Boscawen Information Only01:14:04.880 - 9:13:45 AM; Sean Buck from the New Hampshire State Veterans Cemetery in Boscawen encouraged veterans to apply for eligibility and visit the cemetery. He highlighted the cemetery's inclusivity, particularly mentioning the Burial Equity for Guards and Reserves Act, which expanded eligibility to non-activated National Guard and reserve members. He emphasized the cemetery's role as a place of honor and pride, detailing volunteer opportunities and events like Memorial Day ceremonies and the 100 Nights of Remembrance.
Unclear: Representative from Manchester Information Only01:20:12.320 - 9:19:53 AM; The representative from Manchester asked about the possibility of a tour of the veterans cemetery and whether an appointment was necessary. Sean Buck welcomed visitors without appointments but offered to provide tours if scheduled, emphasizing the cemetery's educational and historical significance.
Unclear: Representative Foss Information Only01:20:58.639 - 9:20:39 AM; Representative Foss expressed interest in volunteer opportunities at the veterans cemetery and confirmed his attendance at the upcoming Memorial Day ceremony. He inquired about the memorial graves for individuals whose remains are located elsewhere, to which Sean Buck explained that these are for veterans whose remains were lost at sea or scattered.
Unclear: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:22:16.239 - 9:21:57 AM; The speaker asked a clarifying question regarding the application process for veterans' benefits at the cemetery, specifically if spouses or dependents of deceased veterans could apply on their behalf. The response affirmed that spouses are eligible to apply even if the veteran is deceased, provided they were married at the time of death, and that the cemetery handles such applications with proper documentation.
Unclear: Unknown Speaker Information Only01:23:02.120 - 9:22:43 AM; The speaker shared a personal anecdote about a World War II veteran's burial at the State Veteran Cemetery, where a large community of veterans attended despite the veteran having no family. The speaker praised the cemetery's ability to manage large crowds and inquired about the cemetery's capacity and future expansion plans. In response, it was explained that unaccompanied remains are handled regularly, with a group called 'Standing with Falling Comrades' ensuring no veteran is buried alone. The cemetery also has plans for a $5.3 million expansion, adding thousands of burial spaces, and has enough room for at least another 80 years, possibly up to 100 years if cremation trends continue.
Unclear: Representative from Manchester Information Only01:26:16.840 - 9:25:57 AM; The representative shared a humorous and personal experience of visiting the cemetery to sign up for a burial plot and observing a humorous epitaph, which highlighted the cemetery's peaceful atmosphere. They encouraged others to attend military honors at the cemetery, noting the noble and honorable nature of the ceremonies, and emphasized the importance of being on time for these events as they operate on a strict schedule.
Unclear: Representative Rollins Information Only01:29:25.520 - 9:29:06 AM; Representative Rollins praised the immaculate condition of the cemetery, likening it to a mini Arlington. They inquired about the memorial walkway, which was explained to be a project of the New Hampshire Veteran Cemetery Association, funded through private donations, featuring monuments dedicated to various veteran groups and conflicts.
Unclear: Representative Jones Information Only01:30:47.920 - 9:30:28 AM; Representative Jones asked about the cemetery's policy on honoring family and religious requests, specifically regarding the use of vaults. The response detailed that the cemetery works within its rules to accommodate requests, such as allowing remains to be placed directly on the ground for certain religious traditions, while ensuring compliance with regulations.
Unclear: Representative Rollins Information Only01:32:06.320 - 9:31:47 AM; Representative Rollins humorously promised not to park in the ambulance spot again after being reprimanded, acknowledging the cemetery's accessibility for handicapped veterans during holiday events.
Unclear: Leo Pacquin, Head of State Veterans Advisory Committee (SVAC) Information Only01:33:00.960 - 9:32:41 AM; Leo Pacquin, head of the State Veterans Advisory Committee (SVAC), provided an overview of the committee's role and functions. He highlighted that SVAC was established by RSA 115-a:8 in 2002 and is comprised of volunteers, including state senators and representatives. The committee's primary focus is to provide a common voice for New Hampshire's 90,000+ veterans and their families, particularly in the legislative arena. Pacquin emphasized the importance of proper nomenclature in legislation and policy changes, and he detailed how SVAC collaborates with state agencies, provides healthcare updates, and schedules events to benefit veterans. He also mentioned the committee's engagement with federal legislation through interactions with congressional delegates.
Unclear: Colonel Bixler, Air and Space Forces Association Information Only01:38:24.800 - 9:38:05 AM; Colonel Bixler, representing the Air and Space Forces Association, shared his personal and professional background, including his time as a fighter pilot and his subsequent roles after retiring from the Air Force. He discussed his involvement in legislative affairs for veterans, noting that he inherited the role from Ed Josephson and has been involved for nine sessions. Bixler emphasized representing 20 organizations and the importance of considering the impact of legislation on veterans' families. He also mentioned the need for careful consideration of tax breaks and their broader community impact, and shared a success story regarding the establishment of the Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services.
Unclear: Representative from Manchester Information Only01:43:55.080 - 9:43:36 AM; A representative from Manchester inquired about the next meeting of the SVAC, to which it was responded that meetings are held the first Tuesday of each month at 5:00 PM at the Cross Training Center in Pembroke.
Unclear: Representative Rollins Information Only01:44:23.719 - 9:44:04 AM; Representative Rollins asked for a list of the 20 organizations that comprise the SVAC. In response, a list was provided, including organizations such as the Air Force Association, American Legion, and Veterans of Foreign Wars.
Unclear: Representative Gagy from Manchester Information Only01:45:54.960 - 9:45:35 AM; Representative Gagy asked for a contact method to direct veterans with issues to the appropriate organizations. It was explained that while there is no budget for a dedicated phone line, an email address is available, and the speaker has a personal cell phone for direct contact, though it was not shared publicly.
Unclear: Brent Frasier, Director of Community-Based Military Programs, Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services, Sanbornton Information Only01:47:27.239 - 9:47:08 AM; Brent Frasier, Director of Community-Based Military Programs, discussed the mission of his division, which involves collaboration with various stakeholders to develop solutions for service members, veterans, and their families in New Hampshire. He highlighted programs focused on employment, housing stability, mental health, suicide prevention, and educational benefits. Frasier also mentioned key initiatives like the Veteran-Friendly Business Network and partnerships with other organizations to address veterans' needs.
Unclear: General Mtis Information Only01:53:49.400 - 9:53:30 AM; General Mtis clarified the correct way to find information about the Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services by Googling 'NHD Mavs'. He emphasized that this resource is crucial for constituents seeking veteran services and support.
Unclear: Julie Vose, Associate Director, VA Manchester Healthcare System Information Only01:56:10.760 - 9:55:51 AM; Julie Vose, Associate Director at the VA Manchester Healthcare System, shared a testimonial from a veteran's daughter praising the quality of care and customer service at the VA. She provided an overview of the VA's mission, structure, and services, including their growth in telehealth capabilities, specialty care offerings, and community partnerships. Vose also highlighted achievements like the Community Navigator program, telehealth audiology services, and the upcoming 75th-anniversary celebration. She discussed the system's staff size and recruitment challenges, particularly in psychology.
Unclear: Representative Mandlebomb Information Only02:17:04.398 - 10:16:45 AM; Representative Mandlebomb inquired about wait times for healthcare at the VA Manchester Healthcare System. Julie Vose responded that they manage wait times well, particularly through ongoing analysis and adjustments to provider productivity and workload. She noted that challenges mainly occur with new appointments and specialty care, but they work to prioritize urgent cases.
Unclear: Representative Budak Information Only02:18:36.439 - 10:18:17 AM; Representative Budak asked about mental health care availability for veterans. Julie Vose explained that mental health services are offered in various formats, including telehealth, and that they have open access to psychiatry services with same-week availability for urgent issues.
Unclear: Representative Jones Information Only02:20:18.840 - 10:19:59 AM; Representative Jones asked about outreach programs for veterans. Julie Vose confirmed that the VA has an active outreach program led by Michael Bist, who conducts over 200 visits annually across New Hampshire, often in collaboration with the VBA.
Unclear: Kim McKay, New Hampshire Veterans Home Information Only02:22:45.680 - 10:22:26 AM; Kim McKay, the commander of the New Hampshire Veterans Home, provided an overview of the facility's operations and achievements. She highlighted her 18-year career in healthcare, including her recent three-year tenure as the commander. McKay emphasized the home's commitment to providing a high quality of life for veterans, stating that the facility is a place where veterans come to live, not just to die. She discussed the home's budget, staffing challenges, and efforts to improve recruitment and retention, such as creating LNA and licensed medication nursing assistant programs. McKay also mentioned significant infrastructure improvements, including energy-efficient lighting upgrades and enhanced security measures. She outlined the admissions process, noting improvements that reduced wait times from a year to 3-6 months. Finally, she provided statistics on the resident census, the branches of military service represented, and the funding sources for the home, expressing gratitude for the support from various veteran service organizations and the state.
Unclear: Brian Baker, New Hampshire Veterans Home Information Only02:23:09.800 - 10:22:50 AM; Brian Baker, the Chief Operations Officer at the New Hampshire Veterans Home, introduced himself and shared his 23 years of experience at the facility. He oversees departments such as facility services, maintenance, safety, security, laundry, housekeeping, and dietary. Baker echoed the sentiment that the veterans home is a happy place where veterans are encouraged to live their lives to the fullest. He mentioned the support provided by veteran service organizations and the importance of managing taxpayer money wisely while fulfilling the needs and wants of the veterans through donations and fundraising.
Unclear: Bill Dufor, President of Rolling Thunder Chapter 2, New Hampshire Information Only02:48:13.479 - 10:47:54 AM; Bill Dufor, the President of Rolling Thunder Chapter 2, New Hampshire, spoke about the organization's origins and mission. He explained that Rolling Thunder was founded in 1987 by two Vietnam veterans to address the issue of prisoners of war and missing in action. The organization holds demonstration rides and supports local veterans through fundraising and direct assistance with necessities like groceries, rent, and gas. Dufor highlighted the various chapters across the country and the specific activities of Chapter 2, including flag lines at funerals and escorts for veterans. He also mentioned the upcoming event, the Wall That Heals, in Claremont, which is a replica of the Vietnam Memorial Wall.
Unclear: Les St Pierre, Rolling Thunder Chapter 2, New Hampshire Information Only02:54:39.800 - 10:54:20 AM; Les St Pierre, a Vietnam veteran and member of Rolling Thunder Chapter 2, discussed the organization's efforts in recognizing and identifying missing in action (MIA) service members. He provided statistics on the number of MIA from various wars and highlighted the work of the Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency (DPAA). St Pierre noted the slow process of identifying remains and mentioned specific cases, such as the USS Oklahoma from World War II, where significant progress has been made. He emphasized the importance of keeping the MIA issue in the public's mind to ensure continued efforts toward identification and closure for families.
HB55: Tom Manion, Hillsborough 1, Pelham, United States Marine Corps Support04:03:00.040 - 12:02:41 PM; Representative Tom Manion, a Marine Corps veteran, argued in favor of HB55, which seeks to repeal the Selective Service Compliance Act. He highlighted that the current RSA prevents individuals from employment and higher education in New Hampshire unless they register for the Selective Service, which he sees as unnecessary given that the draft has not been active for 50 years. Manion pointed out that the state receives no financial compensation for enforcing this federal law, unlike other federal programs. He also noted that the FAFSA will no longer require draft registration from 2025, suggesting the state's law is outdated. Manion argued that the law hinders the state's ability to hire, including for law enforcement, and asked the committee to vote 'Ought to Pass' on HB55.
HB55: Representative Foss Information Only04:04:31.319 - 12:04:12 PM; Representative Foss asked Representative Manion if any other state had repealed a similar law, to which Manion replied he was not aware of any state that had done so. Foss also clarified that conscientious objector status does not exempt individuals from the Selective Service registration requirement under current law.
HB55: Representative Lloyd Information Only04:06:02.560 - 12:05:43 PM; Representative Lloyd asked if law enforcement agencies would testify about the impact of the Selective Service compliance on hiring. Manion clarified that the issue was part of a broader study on recruitment challenges, suggesting that the current law unnecessarily limits the talent pool for state employment.
HB55: Representative Cyber Information Only04:11:33.359 - 12:11:14 PM; Representative Cyber inquired about the compensation states receive for enforcing federal programs like the Selective Service, to which Manion responded that no such compensation exists, and the state is only penalizing itself by enforcing the law.
HB55: Representative Hemingway Information Only04:12:11.319 - 12:11:52 PM; Representative Hemingway questioned the logic of hiring conscientious objectors for law enforcement roles, to which Manion responded that such individuals might still be suitable for local defense roles but object to foreign conflicts.
HB55: Representative Lloyd Information Only04:13:32.880 - 12:13:13 PM; Representative Lloyd sought clarification on whether the bill would affect the national draft, and Manion confirmed that it would not, only removing state-level penalties for non-compliance with Selective Service registration.
HB55: Representative Foss Information Only04:14:18.960 - 12:13:59 PM; Representative Foss asked for clarification on penalties, specifically whether there were any federal penalties to the state for not enforcing the Selective Service registration, to which Manion responded that there are no such penalties.
HB55: Chair Information Only04:14:59.239 - 12:14:40 PM; The chair clarified the relationship between the FAFSA form and the Selective Service registration, noting that the requirement for draft registration on the FAFSA form is phasing out this year. They emphasized that this change in the FAFSA process does not relate to the bill being discussed, and it wouldn't interfere with the FAFSA process.
HB55: Major General David Meltis, New Hampshire National Guard and Commissioner Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services Oppose04:16:32.199 - 12:16:13 PM; Major General David Meltis spoke in opposition to the bill. As the Adjutant General for the New Hampshire National Guard, he stated that the repeal of the legislation would not directly impact the recruiting and retention of members in the National Guard. However, he highlighted a state law that links Selective Service compliance to eligibility for state financial awards for postsecondary education, which he believes gives a level playing field for service members. As the Commissioner of the Department of Military Affairs and Veteran Services, Meltis strongly opposed the bill due to concerns about the compliance rate with the Selective Service Act and the potential impact on state employment of conscientious objectors in roles serving veterans.
HB55: Representative Heath Howard, Strafford and Barrington Support04:22:15.960 - 12:21:56 PM; Representative Heath Howard expressed support for HB55, citing his personal experience with a back injury that exempted him from the draft. He argued against forcing others into military service when he himself is not subject to it, and praised the voluntary nature of the current military force. Howard believes that individuals should not be punished for not registering for the draft, and that such penalties infringe on personal freedoms and liberties. He doubts the necessity of the draft in the current geopolitical climate.
HB55: Kevin Grady, State Veterans Advisory Committee, Hooksett Oppose04:24:12.840 - 12:23:53 PM; Kevin Grady, representing the State Veterans Advisory Committee, opposed the bill, citing past legislative sessions where similar bills were found inexpedient to legislate. He argued that removing state penalties for non-compliance with the Selective Service Act would enable people to do the wrong thing and felt it was not the right approach. Grady suggested that if there were discussions about the necessity of the draft or fairness in registration requirements, those should be addressed directly rather than chipping away at the law at the state level.
HB55: Leo Pin, State Veterans Advisory Committee Chairman Information Only04:28:56.720 - 12:28:37 PM; Leo Pin, as a member of the local Selective Service board, provided information about the process of becoming a conscientious objector, emphasizing that it is not a simple declaration but involves a board process with different tiers of service. He also mentioned that the Selective Service infrastructure includes mostly volunteers, with some federal employees, and shared insights from recent training sessions on the topic.
HB55: Aubrey Freeman, Bridgewater Support04:31:15.800 - 12:30:56 PM; Aubrey Freeman supported the bill, arguing that the volunteer armed services work well and questioning the necessity of coercing young men to register for the Selective Service. He raised concerns about personal autonomy and likened Selective Service registration to gun registration, suggesting it could be a precursor to more control. Freeman argued that such requirements infringe on personal freedoms and are contrary to the principles of the 13th Amendment.
HB55: Eric Brei, Dover Support04:33:38.039 - 12:33:19 PM; Eric Brei from Dover supported the bill, but no further details were provided in the transcript regarding his testimony.
HB55: Eric Brei, Dover Oppose04:34:14.240 - 12:33:55 PM; Eric Brei, a recent resident of New Hampshire and former Maine State Senator, spoke in opposition to HB55, which he understood to be related to military conscription. He provided historical context, noting that military conscription was not used by the federal government for the first century after the establishment of the U.S. Constitution. He argued that conscription was counterproductive, citing examples from the Civil War and World War I, and emphasized that it has been associated with unpopular wars. He referenced debates from the Nixon administration, quoting Milton Friedman's argument against conscription as a form of slavery. Brei also mentioned a speech by Daniel Webster during the War of 1812, who opposed conscription, arguing it was inconsistent with a free government and likened it to despotism. Brei concluded by questioning the morality of compulsory service, even if non-military options were available, and reiterated his opposition to forced service.
HB55: Representative Perez Oppose04:42:56.560 - 12:42:37 PM; Representative Perez expressed opposition to HB55, highlighting the discriminatory nature of requiring only men to sign up for the draft. They suggested that if such a requirement were to continue, it should be extended to women as well, but ultimately favored the complete elimination of the draft.
HB104: Tom Manion, Hillsboro 1, Pelham Support04:44:57.920 - 12:44:38 PM; Tom Manion, a Marine Corps veteran and representative from Hillsboro 1 in Pelham, spoke in support of HB104, the Defend the Guard Act. He argued that the bill would prevent the deployment of the New Hampshire National Guard to combat zones without a formal declaration of war by Congress, as per the Constitution. Manion addressed concerns raised in the fiscal note, dismissing fears of federal funding cuts and clarifying the limitations of the Montgomery Amendment. He criticized the use of Authorizations for Use of Military Force (AUMFs), particularly the 2001 AUMF, for bypassing Congress's war declaration powers. Manion highlighted the ongoing conflicts in Syria and the potential risks to National Guard members, and mentioned support from Pete Heth, a nominee for Secretary of Defense. He concluded by emphasizing the need for states to act to end endless wars and expressed openness to a House resolution to repeal the 2001 and 2002 AUMFs.
HB104: Representative Cyber Information Only04:55:00.240 - 12:54:41 PM; Representative Cyber questioned the approach of passing HB104 at the state level, suggesting a national resolution might be more effective. They asked if working with the national delegation could lead to broader change. Manion responded by emphasizing the need for immediate state action and the potential for other states to follow suit, while also expressing willingness to co-sponsor a House resolution to repeal the AUMFs.
HB104: Representative Hemingway Information Only04:58:03.160 - 12:57:44 PM; Representative Hemingway raised concerns about the fiscal impact of HB104, particularly regarding the potential loss of federal funding for equipment and training. They highlighted the importance of federal resources for maintaining readiness and questioned whether the bill could affect the state's ability to respond to domestic emergencies. Manion responded by reiterating his belief that the fiscal note's projections were exaggerated and that federal funding would not be withheld.
HB104: Representative Henry Jason III, Georgetown Oppose05:00:48.080 - 1:00:29 PM; Representative Henry Jason III, with 24 years of Army service and experience in the Massachusetts National Guard, opposed HB104. He warned that the bill could lead to a loss of federal resources critical for equipment maintenance and personnel training, potentially affecting the Guard's readiness and ability to respond to domestic emergencies. He emphasized the interconnectedness of state and federal resources in maintaining the National Guard's effectiveness.
HB104: Jones Information Only05:04:21.840 - 1:04:02 PM; Jones asked Representative Henry Jason III to clarify the last sentence of his testimony. Representative Jason III expressed concern about losing infrastructure and equipment, which would leave New Hampshire vulnerable during a domestic state of emergency, relying on neighboring states or FEMA for rescue. He mentioned that deploying the National Guard to foreign states could impact this, but there are regulations in place to ensure a portion of the Guard remains in the state.
HB104: Representative Wheeler Support05:06:10.638 - 1:05:51 PM; Representative Wheeler expressed support for the Defend the Guard legislation, citing personal and historical reasons. As a child of a military family and a student of history, he is concerned about the U.S. engaging in conflicts without Congressional debate over the last 82 years. He discussed the War Powers Act and the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, emphasizing that these do not require full Congressional approval and can lead to undeclared wars. Wheeler mentioned the support of many veterans and new members of the legislature for this bill. He highlighted the moral and diplomatic implications of unilateral military actions and criticized the influence of the defense industry. He argued that while the bill won't immediately solve Congress's lack of courage, it is a step New Hampshire can take to urge Congress to fulfill its constitutional duty. Wheeler also addressed concerns about the fiscal note, suggesting it may be exaggerated and that other states have passed similar bills without facing federal funding threats.
HB104: Representative Mandel Information Only05:15:08.320 - 1:14:49 PM; Representative Mandel sought clarification from Representative Wheeler about the status of similar bills in other states. Wheeler corrected that while Wyoming and Arizona's state senates passed similar bills, they did not fully pass in either state, indicating no state has seen such a measure signed into law.
HB104: Representative Gagne Information Only05:18:24.080 - 1:18:05 PM; Representative Gagne commented on the improbability of the federal government eliminating the National Guard due to its necessity. He also referenced President Eisenhower's 1961 farewell address warning about the military-industrial complex, prompting Wheeler to elaborate on how it relates to the current issue of Congress's failure to declare war and the influence of defense contractors.
HB104: Representative Wood, Pittsfield Support05:22:30.480 - 1:22:11 PM; Representative Wood initially expressed support for the bill, emphasizing the importance of following the Constitution. He was concerned about potential financial repercussions from the federal government but highlighted the necessity of the National Guard's availability for domestic emergencies. He cited examples like the flooding in North Carolina and the disaster in East Palestine, Ohio, where the National Guard was not available due to deployments elsewhere. Wood stressed the importance of knowing the location and availability of the National Guard to respond to state needs.
HB104: Representative mbom Information Only05:26:21.280 - 1:26:02 PM; Representative mbom sought clarification on Representative Wood's position on the bill, confirming that Representative Wood intends to vote in favor of the bill.
HB104: Representative Hemingway Information Only05:26:35.840 - 1:26:16 PM; Representative Hemingway discussed the implications of the 'Defend the Guard' bill on New Hampshire's military units. He noted the state's possession of specific military equipment and expressed concerns about losing training efficiency and readiness if the bill were to pass. He emphasized the importance of New Hampshire being a leader in passing this legislation, suggesting that as more states adopt similar bills, the threat of losing federal support would diminish.
HB104: Representative Murray Support05:31:27.400 - 1:31:08 PM; Representative Murray supported the bill, focusing on the financial and constitutional aspects. She argued that Congress unconstitutionally delegates war powers to the President, which she sees as an abdication of duty. She criticized the federal government's practice of withholding funds to enforce unconstitutional laws, suggesting that New Hampshire should not be intimidated. She believes that by being the first state to pass such a bill, it could empower others to follow, making it harder for the federal government to penalize multiple states. She cited James Madison to reinforce the importance of legislative control over war powers.
HB104: Representative Mandel Information Only05:34:08.320 - 1:33:49 PM; Representative Mandel questioned Representative Murray on the potential impact of multiple states passing similar bills on federal funding decisions. He used the example of Texas and border issues to illustrate how states can resist federal pressure. Representative Murray agreed, suggesting that collective state action could deter federal retaliation.
HB104: Representative Jones Information Only05:38:19.400 - 1:38:00 PM; Representative Jones expressed anticipation for Major General mtis's testimony, indicating that his question might be answered then, and chose to pass on questioning Representative Murray.
HB104: Representative Heath Howard Support05:38:54.878 - 1:38:35 PM; Representative Heath Howard was introduced as a supporter of the bill, but his testimony was cut off in the provided snippet.
HB104: Representative Heath Howard, representing Strafford and Barrington in Strafford District 4 Support05:38:53.478 - 1:38:34 PM; Representative Howard supports HB104, emphasizing that the National Guard's purpose is to defend the nation. He argues that deploying troops overseas without an official declaration of war is unconstitutional and represents a failure to meet constitutional requirements. He criticizes the reliance on the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), stating that it shifts constitutional responsibility from Congress to the executive branch. He dismisses concerns about funding as speculative and asserts that the legislation is pro-constitutionality, anti-war, and anti-authoritarian.
HB104: Major General David Molus, Adjutant General of the New Hampshire National Guard Oppose05:40:31.160 - 1:40:12 PM; Major General Molus opposes HB104, arguing that it is an attempt to circumvent federal law and legislative processes. He emphasizes that the decision regarding war powers belongs to Congress, not the state legislative body. He explains the National Guard's role as the operational reserve of the U.S. Army and Air Force, and highlights the significant federal funding that supports the Guard's operations and infrastructure in New Hampshire. He warns that passing such a bill could result in the loss of federal funding and resources, including the closure of the Pease Air National Guard base, and stresses the Guard's primary mission to fight America's wars.
HB104: Menal Bomb Information Only05:48:55.160 - 1:48:36 PM; Menal Bomb poses a hypothetical scenario to Major General Molus about the implications of HB104 on the use of New Hampshire's National Guard resources by other states. The General responds that the bill would likely prevent such contributions and could lead to the closure of the Pease Air National Guard base.
HB104: Representative Hemingway Information Only05:49:42.638 - 1:49:23 PM; Representative Hemingway inquires about the funding sources for various National Guard projects and facilities in New Hampshire, to which Major General Molus confirms they are 100% federally funded. He further explains that passing HB104 would jeopardize this funding and potentially eliminate the Guard's federal mission.
HB104: Representative Gagney Information Only05:52:17.400 - 1:51:58 PM; Representative Gagney asks Major General Molus about the budget process and whether the National Guard receives all requested funds from the federal government. The General notes they are currently under a continuing resolution and generally receive sufficient funds to pay service members and operate equipment.
HB104: Representative Buddha Information Only05:53:04.478 - 1:52:45 PM; Representative Buddha seeks clarification from Major General Molus on whether bills like HB104 indicate an intent to separate from the federal government or the Union. The General succinctly responds 'no'.
HB104: Representative Jones Information Only05:53:42.878 - 1:53:23 PM; Representative Jones asks Major General Molus about the reasons people choose to join the National Guard instead of other branches of the military. The General explains that recruits are drawn by a sense of purpose, educational opportunities, and the ability to serve within their state, highlighting the Guard's dual mission under both state and federal command.
HB104: Representative Lloyd Information Only05:55:25.520 - 1:55:06 PM; Representative Lloyd inquires whether the governor currently has the authority to refuse deployment of the New Hampshire National Guard overseas. Major General Molus clarifies that, under federal activation (Title 10), the governor does not have such authority.
HB104: The Honorable John Graham, Bedford, retired army officer Oppose05:56:11.120 - 1:55:52 PM; John Graham, a retired army officer from Bedford, opposes HB104. He provides historical context on the National Guard's role and restructuring, emphasizing its integration into the total force concept post-Vietnam. He argues that the bill is moot because the governor lacks authority to deny deployment once units are federalized. He concludes by urging the committee to find the bill inexpedient to legislate, citing its ineffectiveness and the dual mission of the National Guard.
HB104: Kevin Grady, Hooksett, NH, State Veterans Advisory Committee Oppose06:01:32.798 - 2:01:13 PM; Kevin Grady, a 25-year Air Force veteran and a 27-year veteran of Hooksett, NH, representing the State Veterans Advisory Committee, expressed strong opposition to HB104. He highlighted the committee's repeated opposition to similar bills in previous sessions, mentioning HB 580 in 2021, HB 1092 in 2022, and HB 229 in 2022 and 2023. Grady argued that the bill would not defend the National Guard but instead put New Hampshire in a precarious position. He discussed the evolution of Congressional war-making powers, mentioning the War Powers Act and the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), asserting that these are more relevant to active duty forces than the National Guard. He also touched on the potential impact of passing the bill, suggesting it could lead to the relocation of military resources and potentially affect the state's ability to respond to emergencies like natural disasters. Grady concluded by emphasizing that the issue lies between Congress and the President, not at the state level, and encouraged the committee to vote the bill off permanently.
HB104: Unnamed Representative Information Only06:10:29.280 - 2:10:10 PM; An unnamed representative asked Kevin Grady about the relationship between the AUMF and the National Guard, questioning if the AUMF adapts to the National Guard's historical progression. Grady responded by explaining that the AUMF primarily concerns active duty forces, not the Guard, and provided an example of Guard units deployed during Hurricane Katrina, indicating that such deployments are planned well in advance.
HB104: Representative Lloyd Information Only06:12:39.680 - 2:12:20 PM; Representative Lloyd inquired about the potential impact of losing federal funding and resources on Veterans Services if HB104 were passed. Grady noted the difficulty in measuring the impact due to current federal funding of services but suggested that passing the bill could lead to the Defense Secretary pulling reserve forces into active duty or relocating them to more compliant states. He also mentioned that while Veterans Services funding might not be directly affected, the collaboration between military resources could be impacted.
HB104: Eric Breaker, Department of Defense Support06:14:11.520 - 2:13:52 PM; Eric Breaker from the Department of Defense expressed support for HB104. His testimony was cut off in the provided transcript, so a detailed summary of his stance and arguments cannot be fully provided.
HB104: Eric Brei, Resident of Dover, New Hampshire Support06:14:43.240 - 2:14:24 PM; Eric Brei, who previously served three terms in the Maine State Senate, expressed his support for HB104, noting that he had sponsored similar legislation in Maine. He referenced Daniel Webster's views on state authority over the militia, emphasizing the importance of state governments protecting their National Guard from federal overreach. Brei highlighted the absence of arguments supporting the ongoing wars and criticized the lack of constitutional justification for deploying National Guard troops to conflicts like Syria. He argued that without a congressional declaration of war, the federal government's actions violate the Constitution. Brei also addressed the issue of federal funding versus state autonomy, using the example of New Hampshire's stance on seat belt laws. He concluded by urging New Hampshire to uphold its duty to protect its National Guard members.
HB104: Jason Geard, Former Member of the New Hampshire State Legislature Support06:28:10.478 - 2:27:51 PM; Jason Geard, a former representative, voiced his support for HB104, focusing on the human cost of continuous warfare. He cited a recent study indicating that suicide is now the primary cause of death among active-duty U.S. soldiers, emphasizing the need to consider the broader impact of deployment on service members beyond combat deaths. Geard also questioned the motives behind U.S. military engagements, referencing historical examples like the Gulf of Tonkin incident. He highlighted the inclusion of similar legislation in the Republican Party platform at the state convention, indicating broad support. Geard concluded by stressing the importance of focusing on the welfare of soldiers rather than financial and military expenditures.
HB104: Peter Kowski Oppose06:34:00.200 - 2:33:41 PM; Peter Kowski was scheduled to speak in opposition to HB104, but the transcript does not provide further details on his testimony.
HB104: Peter Kowski, Retired US Army Colonel Oppose06:34:12.638 - 2:33:53 PM; Peter Kowski, a retired US Army Colonel, testified against HB104. He detailed his extensive military service, including advisory roles to the Adjutant Generals of Massachusetts and New Hampshire. He referenced the Supreme Court case Perpich v. Department of Defense to highlight the dual status of National Guard members as both state and federal entities. He argued that the proposed legislation conflicts with federal law, particularly the Montgomery Amendment, which allows the National Guard to be ordered to active duty outside the U.S. without gubernatorial consent. Kowski expressed concern that implementing HB104 would lead to a significant loss of federal funding for the New Hampshire National Guard, amounting to $395 million annually, and the loss of 2,700 jobs. He believes this would force soldiers and airmen to relocate, thereby damaging their careers and the state's economy.
HB104: Derek PR, Derry, New Hampshire, State Director for Bring Our Troops Home Support06:40:10.000 - 2:39:51 PM; Derek PR, a veteran sergeant from the New Hampshire Army National Guard and a volunteer state director for Bring Our Troops Home, spoke in favor of HB104. He emphasized that the legislation aligns with Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, aiming to restore adherence to constitutional principles. He clarified that the bill focuses on Title 10, not Title 32, and does not conflict with federal laws, including the Montgomery Amendment, which he noted specifically addresses the type, schedule, purpose, and location of deployments. Derek argued that the bill would ensure Congress declares war as per the Constitution before deploying the National Guard overseas. He dismissed concerns about potential funding cuts, citing support from various political figures, including the incoming Secretary of Defense, and provided examples from other states to argue that no state has faced funding cuts for similar legislation. He also referenced widespread public and organizational support for the bill, including from the ACLU and GOP party platforms across multiple states.
HB104: Unidentified Speaker, Manchester, New Hampshire Information Only06:56:11.520 - 2:55:52 PM; The speaker inquired about the stance of New Hampshire's federal delegation on the bill under discussion. They expressed curiosity regarding whether any statements had been made by the delegation, but noted that they had not heard anything and were unable to provide an answer to their own question.
HB104: Representative Hemingway, New Hampshire Information Only06:56:58.080 - 2:56:39 PM; Representative Hemingway asked the previous speaker about the inclusion of National Guard units in the Brack and Bra programs. The response indicated that these programs are typically for federal forces and not National Guard units, though the speaker was not certain. Further discussion touched on the closure of bases and realignment of forces in New Hampshire and the role of the National Guard in training and potential combat situations, expressing concerns about the potential risks to Guardsmen's lives and constitutional adherence.
HB104: Representative Kelly Venza, Strafford District 19, New Hampshire Support07:00:11.760 - 2:59:52 PM; Representative Venza expressed strong support for the legislation, recounting her personal experience in the military and the impact of deployments on the National Guard. She highlighted the high number of casualties and injuries in past conflicts, arguing that these wars were fought under false pretenses and benefited certain interests. She emphasized the importance of constitutional adherence, particularly the need for Congressional approval for war declarations, to maintain democratic principles and accountability. Venza also discussed the roles and limitations of the National Guard, underscoring the moral and ethical considerations of deploying them without Congressional authority.
HB104: Aubrey Freeman, Bridgewater, New Hampshire Support07:07:24.760 - 3:07:05 PM; Freeman supported the bill, emphasizing the value of the men and women serving in the military and critiquing the deployment of troops into endless wars without clear objectives. He advocated for a change in the system to prioritize public discussion before sending troops overseas and stressed that the primary purpose of the New Hampshire National Guard should be to serve within the state and country, especially during natural disasters.
HB104: Ron Carallo, Bedford, New Hampshire Oppose07:11:48.240 - 3:11:29 PM; Commander Carallo, a retired Navy officer and current defense contractor, opposed the bill. He argued that the bill's implications could lead to defunding the National Guard and questioned the constitutional arguments presented, emphasizing that no judicial ruling had deemed the current authorization of military force unconstitutional. Carallo highlighted the importance of military readiness and training, particularly in real-world environments, and expressed concerns about the potential impact on his son, a member of the New Hampshire National Guard. He also addressed misconceptions about defense contractors and their profits, offering to provide further information on the topic.
HB104: Ben We, Former 11 Bravo Infantryman, US Army, New Hampshire Support07:24:29.798 - 3:24:10 PM; Ben We, a former infantryman and cancer survivor, supported the 'Defend the Guard' legislation, driven by his experiences and the loss of friends to suicide and war. He criticized the lack of Congressional declarations of war and the human cost of endless conflicts, urging lawmakers to prioritize constitutional duties over funding concerns. We argued that the military-industrial complex is overfunded and that state autonomy and the protection of National Guard members should be prioritized, advocating for the bill as a way to uphold the Constitution and protect New Hampshire residents.
HB104: Representative Michael Granger, Strafford - District 22nd 108th Infantry, New York National Guard Support07:34:30.958 - 3:34:11 PM; Michael Granger, a former Specialist in the New York National Guard, spoke in support of the 'Defend the Guard' bill. He argued that if the bill is passed and signed into law, it would prevent the National Guard from being deployed without a formal declaration of war, which he believes should be easy to obtain if the war is just. Granger emphasized that New Hampshire should not participate in unjust wars and criticized the use of military equipment like rockets as a means to influence state decisions, pointing out that these are funded by taxpayer money. He expressed pride in New Hampshire's tradition of resisting federal overreach and advocated for state law to override federal law when necessary. Granger concluded by urging the committee to pass the bill, stating that his oath was to the Constitution, not to federal funding.

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